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Murray C
 Post subject: Fraudulent Spam
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:04 am 
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Ok, so receiving SPAM with the "FROM" field showing some random email address is one thing, but this one is way more serious IMO.

I had an email in my bulk folder this morning with a subject line spouting great saving on  Gucci Prada Fendi etc...   The problem with this email is that the "FROM" field contained my own email address!

Now I do not send out SPAM and I never will... Geez, I get enough of that carp not to have to start sending it to MYSELF!

Anyone here had a similar thing?  

My biggest concern is that if they can send it to me, then what is stopping them sending SPAM all over the net with my address on it?  

Just thinking of the lawsuit I could come up with against Gucci, Prada, Fendi, etc fraudulently using my name to endorse their products...  Class Action anyone?
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 Post subject: Re: Fraudulent Spam
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:33 am 
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With all the emails that I get (at least 70% are SPAM) I have had that happen quite a few times.

I was concerned at first, especially when I get the error message that it couldn't be delivered! - but when looking at where the email was generated (the IP address) I see that it didn't come from my servers so I figured that someone out there is just screwing around.

I just delete them. But it still has me wondering if my domain name(s) will be banned from other servers for being a SPAMMER?

Anyone know that answer?

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 Post subject: Re: Fraudulent Spam
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Thats becoming more and more common. You will have to delete that addy for awhile till it drops off the verified list.   The best method is using changing addys on the internet Such as Murrlyn1@hotmail.com. This is forwarded to a secure (not Murrlyn         )addy. When #1 is spammed and you start getting spam like that you delete it and Make a new addy.

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 Post subject: Re: Fraudulent Spam
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:51 am 
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Murrlyn @ Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:04 am wrote:
Ok, so receiving SPAM with the "FROM" field showing some random email address is one thing, but this one is way more serious IMO.

I had an email in my bulk folder this morning with a subject line spouting great saving on  Gucci Prada Fendi etc...   The problem with this email is that the "FROM" field contained my own email address!

Now I do not send out SPAM and I never will... Geez, I get enough of that carp not to have to start sending it to MYSELF!

Anyone here had a similar thing?  

Fear not. This is common, and is sometimes even done by your mailer agent when it finds a blank From: address.

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My biggest concern is that if they can send it to me, then what is stopping them sending SPAM all over the net with my address on it?  

Just thinking of the lawsuit I could come up with against Gucci, Prada, Fendi, etc fraudulently using my name to endorse their products...  Class Action anyone?

Don't worry. They have your email address anyway, and since From: is so trivially forged, no one pays attention to it anyway when combatting spam.

The worst thing that can happen is that you get a bunch of bounced messages from lousy mail transfer agents that "bounce" undelivered (or undeliverable) messages. And that is happening less and less as the large email systems reduce what they call "backscatter".

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 Post subject: Re: Fraudulent Spam
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Also, remember that Gucci et al are not the ones sending the email. It is slimy spammers no doubt sellng fraudulent copies of same.
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webguru @ Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:33 am wrote:
With all the emails that I get (at least 70% are SPAM) I have had that happen quite a few times.

I was concerned at first, especially when I get the error message that it couldn't be delivered! - but when looking at where the email was generated (the IP address) I see that it didn't come from my servers so I figured that someone out there is just screwing around.

I just delete them. But it still has me wondering if my domain name(s) will be banned from other servers for being a SPAMMER?

Anyone know that answer?


Very possible.. I had a web site banned from Google, due to the Java Scrip someone injected in the code..

I ended up closing down the site.. I couldn't discover how to inform Google the problem was fixed..

If your domain has been infected with an email trojan, you will be banned by almost everyone..

Just sayin'

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 Post subject: Re: Fraudulent Spam
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I use Bluehost for  server Their software depending upon how high you have the security set will detect 90% of the spam. When I get heavy spam or undeliverables from that addy I just delete it and make another. For example my KS Addy is something like forum@cabaret-karaoke.com.. I havnt had any spam on it yet but it wouldnt be hard to delete. Make another account go into user panel and put in the new one. The email addy that all are forwarded to is virtually spam free.

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Spam detection software, running on the system "box94.bluehost.com", has
identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
the administrator of that system for details.

Content preview:  Replica Watches - cheap and really good solution! What is
  a replica watch and how is it different from the real watches? A replica watch
   is a watch made similar to that of the real brand ones, except, at a much
   lower cost. A real Rolex can go up to hundreds of thousands of dollars, but
   you can get a replica similar to that one, for only a few hundred dollars.
   This allows the normal everyday person to be able to look and feel classy,
   without having to actually spend such ridiculous amounts of money on it.
  Visit our replica watches shop! [...]

Content analysis details:   (19.0 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name              description
---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
 3.5 BAYES_99               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
                            [score: 1.0000]
 0.1 RDNS_NONE              Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS
 3.5 HELO_DYNAMIC_SPLIT_IP  Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (Split
                            IP)
 2.0 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
                [Blocked - see <http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?122.54.92.97>]
 2.1 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO      Received: contains an IP address used for HELO
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
 1.1 URIBL_RHS_DOB          Contains an URI of a new domain (Day Old Bread)
                            [URIs: fliwero.com]
 1.9 URIBL_AB_SURBL         Contains an URL listed in the AB SURBL blocklist
                            [URIs: fliwero.com]
 1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL         Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist
                            [URIs: fliwero.com]
 1.5 URIBL_JP_SURBL         Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL blocklist
                            [URIs: fliwero.com]
 1.5 URIBL_OB_SURBL         Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL blocklist
                            [URIs: fliwero.com]
 0.5 URIBL_SC_SURBL         Contains an URL listed in the SC SURBL blocklist
                            [URIs: fliwero.com]

The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe to
open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus,
or confirm that your address can receive spam.  If you wish to view
it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor.

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