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I get a kick out of the fact that a KJ in my area who brags about having the largest collection, also has the most people showing up with their own discs.

I don't get either one:
.. the bragging about collection size
...or why people show up with their own discs when the exact same version of every song on those discs is in fact in the kj's library (as confided to me)

When I talk about my karaoke show to others I'm usually bragging about what great singers I have and how fun and friendly the crowd is. I don't think I've ever said I have a huge library of songs. I truly don't think it matters. They just want to know if you have their favorite song to sing. I also don't brag about my sound system. Most people wouldn't know what I was talking about if I described what kind of equipment I had anyway. All they want to know is will I have fun !

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Bragging about collection size used to be a good marketing strategy years ago when karaoke only had a few thousand songs total. KJ's wanted to let singers know their selection was about as large as it could be with all the new songs. So whan a kj bragged about 5,000 songs, you knew they were on the ball in disc purchases. Now days it doesn't matter, anyone (well mostly) advertising more than 50K songs today is pretty much flagging themselves as a pirate with an illegal hard drive system. Funny thing is I have a little over 11K individual song titles & get the statment several times a week - so & so has over 100K songs & he don't have half the stuff you got. So it's not the size that matters, it's getting what people really want.

People that bring their own discs majority of the time would just rather use their own disc - even if the kj has the same version/manu - some singers don't even look in the kj book. No big deal to me, i've even told the people that I have the same disc & they still bring theirs in - no big, less wear & tear on mine & if it's a song that other customers show interest in i'll pick it up for them as well.

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When it comes to DJ one of my selling points is I have the top 150 in every decade from the 50's until now. Not so much in the 2000's the charted didnt last very long. The people young and old still listen to and sing the classics from the last century.

One of the features I like in my song search engine there are decade filters for DJ stuff.
There are also lists of top 100-200 for each year on certain DJ sites. . Let's say you obtained the top 100 for every year from the 50's thru the nineties. Thats 50 years or 5000 songs. I doubt if they are all available on CDG but even with the ones that are it would be one hell of a selection. (maybe 2-3k?) For the last 8 years they have been hit or miss and short lived. I see very few becoming classics and last 60 or more years. If I had to do it all over again thats the way I would build a library both KJ & DJ.

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My Collection is not illegal...nor was I bragging. I was merely wondering How many tracks everyone else manages with,as it seems that only a small portion of my songs are used......but what to delete? The problem I have is with the hard core singers demanding certain tracks by certain manufacturers ie legends etc.,,("Not sound choice on that track terrible backing" etc)..so its handy to have different versions of every song.

Sorry if we came to conclusions about the legalities, when you mentioned Pioneer is what triggered my response as they have never been legally available in download form. Lot of songs to have.

Anyway, don't delete anything from your hard drive, someone may like a particular version. I list one version in my book only - unless they are different like a remix or a fast vs slow version & will mark it, or covered by another band. I generally will list the Sound Choice version & if when I hear it & do not like it, I will look at another option if I have a dup'd version.

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Please note that in my last post, the people I referred to who bring discs come to that particular show week in and week out. I think it's some kind of "ego" thing with them to bring their own discs.

Furthermore, with so many people (at least 1/3 - 1/2 of those in attendance) bringing discs, the KJ might as well leave home the computer and bring a few hundered discs for the player that is regularly in use anyway!

In short, that KJ has the largest selection that, basically, few ever looks at. How ironic!!!

I have heard that as well that the books get too big, people just stay with their main regular songs & don't bother looking up new songs (have theirs already memorized) or will just ask the kj if they have it.

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Well since I've been updating my books and trying to keep them up to date....Here's my question. If you have a 100k song collection, just how do you get books done? How do you transport the 100lb weights, do you make 10 trips to your van, just to get books? There is no way you could even have books. If you wanted them, you would have to take out a 2nd mortgage on your house to get them done. Not to mention the size of them, who wants to look through a 2000 page book...ain't happenin'. I wouldn't see the point to having something like that. People tell me all the time, man you have a lot of music. When in reality, I don't...at all. It's about 'selection and quality', not quantity. I have maybe 5-6k, I'm weeding out the dups for my cutomers books and getting them done again to make thing more user friendly. I'm going to have (1) master book with every version and such. I hate the idea of have (2) seperate books to keep up, but it is what it is. What I do like is the fact I won't have to answer, what's the difference (pointing to the different versions in the books)! The next step when I go cpu, if and when that ever happens...get the books redone with no disc #'s.......MrD

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OK I have to disagree...Ive been doing this alot of yrs in salina KS and I know for a fact at least around here...people will go where the new stuff is..Too many singers have told me one they like my show because I keep up to date...granted there are alot of discs that have never been touch but I guess its worth the risk

I've never known anyone who has been able to buy all new stuff when it comes out and still stay in business

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So GeminiMALE40 what new stuff is hot in your room? Just curious as to what's being sung in the heartland.

Yep i've been doing this alot of years as well - close to 20 professionally in karaoke alone. New stuff isn't a driving factor for bringing people in. It may be for a show that is still relatively new, or if the other places simply plain suck & singers really have no where else to go. I will not 'risk' the money on discs that 90% (or more) will not get sung. If people want brand new (as in todays current) music, they can ask & I will consider it. I get new music all the time - but it's rarely 'current' todays hits as it never gets asked for - typicall it's classic rock from the 70's-90's, country would be the only exception to the 'current', new country is hotter than ever. I used to be the first to have the brand new discs when it hit the shelves back in the early 90's only to learn it was wasting money. People got excited about the new stuff in the books, but soon learned it wasn't really what THEY wanted. When I put out my request sheets for stuff they wanted, my purchases were alot more fullfilling as many of the songs not only got sung regularly, they generally are songs that continue to GET sung & used. So from a business standpoint to buy discs that many never get touched is not very wise from an investment standpoint. Which is why it's better to buy what your singers want rather than what you THINK they MIGHT want - just makes sense!

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I think this may be a very regional issue. I have singers coming to my show who just WAIT with baited breath for new stuff and sing the heck out of it. Other shows I've done not so important. All it takes is 3-4 singers who stay very, very current on new music who come in and sing the new stuff - pretty soon others are singing it, too. Keeps for an interesting show. I have gone to rooms, though, where it is SOOOO predictable what will be sung...and so there is no need for new music at all. I think nothing kills the party mood quicker than a succession of singers who sing the same songs, in the same order, every single week. Maybe that's cigarette time or something....

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Right, but this kind of proves my point - if the singers WANT and ask for the new songs consistantly, then that's what you get. If they aren't asking for the brand on the radio now songs, then why bother hoping your disc purchase of the 'latest & greatest' is what the singers want? Find out what the singers that are your customers & the people that are supporting the show really want & that will go alot further than just to fill the books with new stuff as soon as it hits the shelf - 9 out of 10 times these songs will be long forgotten in a couple weeks.

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This is another advantage of using and playing extended new filler music. Listeners request what is hot. We also pay attention to what people are playing on the jukebox as far as new ones. These are ones I consider for karaoke and download. At $2 or less it is worth it.

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The old disc problem...is it worth buying a disc for one track you don't have ( when all the other tracks you have but by different companies ie Zoom Soundchoice etc)...?

For me UNLESS the other tracks are dogs that need replacing or songs that are NEVER SUNG, I will not buy another NEW disc if it doesn't have at least more than 1/2 of new songs I do not already have - ON LY exception is if I can get it CHEAP. I will NEVER buy (ok, UNLESS it is not available from ANY other manu & is HIGHLY requested) a disc for 1 song. This is where custom discs come into play - you can buy 1 disc with 15 highly requested songs for around $70. This may seem like a high price but you have to consider if you were trying to buy those same 15 songs on 15 separate discs it could feasably run up to $225 just to fill 15 song requests!

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