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fsapienjr said:

I'm confused here.... in the first paragraph you state: "It is not the KJ's responsibility to handle roudy patrons." and that I have "no authority to kick anybody out."

But your second paragraph you made it your responsibility when you stopped the show until he left... and you called the police... What was management doing during all of this? Obviously, management didn't want to have anything to do with this guy and while they didn't kick him out, they certainly did NOT stop you from kicking him out did they?

You not only took on the responsibility for managing this bad behaviour yourself, you apparently had the authority to kick him out and did so.

No slight intended here, but I just flat out wouldn't work in a place where management doesn't back me up. Management should have tossed him after the first fight... not let it get so out of hand that the KJ must handle it.

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You have my utmost sympathy (and probably a lot of others) with the situation you described.

If that was the policy of the bar then you're better off without the gig.

Serious singers wouldn't want to put up with just anyone joining in who felt like it.

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My thoughts are a nice, LOUD microphone instruction to the audience before the singer starts to show the same courtesy that they'd want if they're singers. If they're not, show them some darned courtesy ANYWAYS! I'd also get out from BEHIND the rig and walk around the room and gently tell people, "you're talking wayyy too loud, and my singers can't hear themselves. I can control the levels... please don't make me adjust my sound that much."
Again, get out from behind the equipment and escort the person away from the "performing stage". Again, make an ANNOUNCEMENT over the mic at the beginning of the show, and if your rules are getting trampled on, make reminder announcements during the show.

Ollie may hate this, but that's why I HAVE rules! ! People are just dumb sometimes, and I hate to admit it, but sometimes the sheeple need to be led!

It depends on the venue Matt. Some require a gunnery sargeant. The rotations here are typically smaller with polite singers and believe it or not the new ones becoming of age are the best.


There are advantages to having a separate room for karaoke. We do run a third speaker in the main bar area mainly so the singers that like to sit at the bar can be called. It also separates the leagues or poker from karaoke. They can get as noisy as they want and usually the bar speaker is at a lower level.

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My philosophy is that I'm responsible for anything that directly relates to the enjoyment of the patrons at the show. The bar, however, has a responsibility to keep things safe and under control. For example:

If someone is starting a fight, or arguing with me in a threatening way, I motion to the bouncer and the guy is immediately removed.

If someone grabs a mic without permission, I take it back and tell them if they do it again, they will be removed. The singer waited sometimes 2 hours to get up and sing. I won't allow someone to ruin that experience for them when they finally get up. I also won't hand a mic to a friend of the singer unless directed by the singer, themselves.

Anyone who I perceive as being too drunk will not be allowed to sing. If they are cut off from drinking, they are also cut off from singing. I have too much invested in my equipment to let some drunk break my wireless microphone or kick over my TV.

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