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Murrlyn @ Sat May 02, 2009 1:41 am wrote: Dr Fred @ Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:27 pm wrote: Probably the best safety measure is warm weather which will kill off the virus rapidly when it is either in the air or on surfaces and thats why colds spread in winter. Summer is soon.. Yeah, Mexico is such a cold place! Kiwi have I told you I love you today?   _________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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BarryKaraoke @ Sat May 02, 2009 5:08 am wrote: Sure 200 people died in Mexico last week from it...but what the news neglects to mention is that there were over 10,000 deaths in Mexico City that same week (total) from ALL causes. 200 in a city of 10 Million is not an epidemic. More people will die from Smoking today than from Swine Flue all year, yet nobody panics about that. I saw the ultimate in panic today on my drive to work. I saw a man in his car, alone, on the interstate...with a mask on.  spoken like someone from a country that holds life cheap _________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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MorganLeFey
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timberlea @ Sat May 02, 2009 8:43 am wrote: Actually the reason it has only mildly affected Canadian, Americans, etc is because most, if not all of us have had numerous vaccinations during our lives, whereas, I daresay, Mexicans have not.
we have the same vaccinations Tim, yet a school football team on the school trip of a lifetime have been confirmed as having contracted it...further than that, confirmed cases from others who travelled to NZ on the same plane from LA that the school team was on _________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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OK I just got off the phone with the chief molecular biologist for the Center For Disease Control.
Just kidding. He was just on the news.
Anyway he said that the combination of genes in this H1N1 virus appears to be new and has never been identified before. Anywhere. Or in anything.
They haven't found any of it in pigs. Only in humans. He said that the CDC had until recently been calling it swine flu because the virus on record whose genetic material it most closely resembles is an isolate from a pig virus from the 1930s.
Is there a lot of misinformation out there or what? Why are they killing all these pigs off for?
Anyway he also said that the human component to the virus's genes kind of resembles an H1N1 virus from 1957, and it's possible that anyone who contracted that one might have some partial immunity. Otherwise, it's a wide open virus and our only protection so far is that it doesn't appear to be very strong. Yet.
edit: Oops this just posted on Yahoo.
OTTAWA – Pigs on a Canadian farm have been infected with the new swine flu virus — apparently by a farm worker back from Mexico — and are under quarantine, officials said Saturday. It is the first known case of pigs having the virus.
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Morgan and if you check, those people have a mild case and not in any danger of dying. The only reported death in the US was a baby from Mexico. We have 17 or 19 cases here. They are home in bed, not dying in a hospital. I still contend that severe cases are not found in Western countries because of our immunization regimens.
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MorganLeFey
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Tim I know this...I dont sit with my head firmly planted up my...oh never mind
My point is that it is contagious and it is being contracted by those from countries where immunisation programs are carried out religiously. The fact that the virus doesnt appear overly strong isnt the case really...it should still be of concern and watched carefully. More particularly now that a human has passed it on to pigs.
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My Doctor told me that this flu is no worse than any other flu that comes through every year. Since I was alive in 1957 and had the flu as a three year old (I haven't had the flu since BTW), I am pretty much immune. Plus being a diabetic, I am subjected to a once yearly vaccine shot.
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