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The 2 I order had 16 & 15 songs & cost $110 for both with all shipping. So that seems about right.

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Actually it is 7 songs. I didn't add too good. I think it is a better value if I buy a disc of say 15 songs for $20, and 7 are songs that are new to me or maybe better versions, then the disc is a better value.

Anyways thanks. Been wanting some of those songs.

Felix the KJ

$20 for 15 'new' songs - great but are they the songs YOUR singers actually WANT or just HOPING they will sing? Or spend a little more and actually GET 7 songs they ACTUALLY want to sing? I have been at this since 92, once thought the same way, quickly learned - get what the singers that frequent my show want to sing instead of what I think they may sing or upgrade songs that aren't sung already. If they are songs that are sung regularly & you are upgrading with a disc that actually has them - then so be it, but then you have to look at - are the singers comfortable with that version or are they actually asking for a better one? And you are just assuming they WANT a better one. I have some older singers that I 'upgraded' versions becuase they are VERY MUCH better than the version I had, but they learned & preferred the original version & ask for that one instead of the new version. Just because YOU may think it better doesn't mean the singer will! If it's a new song, then it's fair game either way!

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I'm somewhere in the middle on the whole disc purchase thing, I still find that buying a whole disc for one song is expensive, but sometimes I get a few songs on there that end up getting sung more than the originally requested one. Custom discs are good for the money, just work out the price point when it's cheapest per song (at least 10 songs on a Sound Choice custom).

I'm working (albeit slowly) on a karaoke download search page which will search all legal sites at once and then present the results (google gives too many torrents). I suspect it could be very useful for those of us trying to find a song for download whilst running a show.

I'll let you all know when I'm done!

Jonn

Brilliant idea John, keep us posted!

John, after your search string in google add the following.

-torrent -warez

The dash must immediately precede the word.
You can add more words to really target your choice.
Similarly you could use +.

+purchase
or
-torrent -warez +purchase

The minus means the following word must not appear on the page, and the plus means the following word must appear on the page.

Sunfly are Ok...beats the pants off SGB etc......Here in the UK at the moment all their Monthly releases are good in that they ONLY take into account recent chart music (SF 279 we are up to).. I tend to ignore the SFMW series (Most Wanted)..As I will (usually) already have these in one way or another.

But ,however...I MUST promote Mr Entertainer stuff...some of its Brit hits (Especially) are first class!!

Sunfly is great for many songs that other vendors don't release. Especially old songs from the fifties and sixties.

And i rently found a great song called In A Broken Dream on Sunfly.

The Small Faces tune right? If you can find it, check out a cover version of it by the rock group Thunder. It'll knock your socks off!

Python Lee Jackson? (Vocals by Rod Stewart)

I got a track on a custom disc recently & the music is very good. Not sold on the lyric swipes - they aren't off or anything - just takes something to get used to!

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Lonman: I understand your philosophy on purchasing new music. It works for you, because you are at one place, so your gig is always with a similar crowd.

My situation is much different. My Friday crowd is completely different than my Saturday crowd at a different venue. I do buy the latest releases automatically. These new additions get sung all the time. Tney often sing songs I would have never thought that someone would sing. My Saturday sings a little of everything, including new releases. My new Friday crowd is predominately younger, so many of the songs sang in the last two weeks, have been songs not sang at the other venue. So for me, if I can get a disc with 7 out of 15 new songs, I jump on it. I am always amazed when I buy a disc for a particular song, then people end up singing the other new songs on the disc.

I do private parties, you don't anymore. I did a private party last Saturday, and songs got sung, I never heard sung before. Between my two venues, and private party, my customers are likely much more diverse than you working the same place all the time.

Felix the KJ

I think it also would depend on how long you have been in the business. If you have collected a bizillion of the basics over the years, then you just need what you need and not a lot of duplicates.

I go back and forth with this as we are just starting out so I do a bit of both customs and buying regular discs. I hate having to buy an entire disc just to fill one customer request and then have no one sing anything else on that disc. But what I really hate more is when I buy a song by an artist on a custom and then people here it and want more songs by that artist so I should have just bought the entire disc in the first place. But that's the way it goes.

My philosophy on purchasing music I set in 94 when I still was running 3 different systems in different clubs. I still bought what the people of the club requested to sing - not just buy new stuff & hope they sang it. Doesn't matter the fact that I am now in one place, I still buy what people want!
Again I used to have the philosophy that "hey 7 out of 15 songs is pretty good, but are people really going to use those songs?" But like said, if you are still building a library, then you may want to get a disc with songs you don't have simply to fill out the books - but again, are people singing those songs? It's still much better putting out a request sheet of songs people want at every show & buy from there! It not only saves money in the long run, but keeps return customers - if you can find those songs on a disc that isn't duplicating songs you already have & you can afford to spend that money on songs that may not ever get sung, then it's a great deal.
I get a pretty diverse crowd each night of the week - not always the same.

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Exactly. When I first started I was the set up through my local karaoke store to notify me the second the 'new discs' hit the shelves. I bought them up, and added them to the books only to find that maybe 95% of the songs never got sung. I asked people about that & they said oh, that's cool, but what are the chances of getting these songs. But when I was buying everything just to have everything, there were only maybe 2-3,000 songs on karaoke total! The biggest libraries consisted of maybe 1200-2000 songs. Today, buying big libraries don't really mean anything anymore, it's WHAT you buy that matters, get what the people ask for & there won't be any problems!

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I buy similar to how Lonman buys - pretty much request. However, once in a while if I check out, for example, the 50-song 2009 hot pop hits, and there are a lot of really good songs on them, chances are in the not too distant future a few of them will get sung. Not the best way to buy, but a bunch of new music (the same way a pirate can sell a show with 100,000 songs) will give people the impression that you're "really on top of it." I guess the prospect of actually being able to sing one of the newest songs out, whether they actually sing it or not, is something people like. I know I enjoy being able to try something new, and can often be surprised at how well a song goes over....If I sing it enough times, sooner or later someone in the crowd will sing it and I can take it off my list. Sometimes people are scared to try something new because they've never heard it sung or seen the words - once they're over that, they're more willing to try it.

exactly the way I do it by request only and I will only buy a disc if I can't find it online, which seems to be more rare these days.

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We do get the Pop Hits (it's only a drop in the bucket) and then try to get any requests. We have over 25,000 songs (18,000 unique) acquired during almost 20 years in operation. As a distributor for a Canadian company we get our discs fairly cheap.

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Yeah I figured i'd join the Chartbuster monthly just to have something coming in each month. But still get primary buys with requests only.

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That and maybe for better versions of songs.

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