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I am interested in a good WIRELESS Microphone (maybe a dual ) to use at home with My new DGX 109 KARAOKE player- This new unit lets you record as you sing with really good quality- On an SD card--- which you can convert to Mp3 and then to wave or cd -

Its a great machine but I would like some good Mics-- I also play piano and I can sing and play and record at the same time and I would only need no more than 50 ft. range-- I essentially do this at home and so its for personal entertainment --

I was told that a really good one at a reasonable price is a SAMSON 5H stage which could be with a Q7 Mic ($99 or without Q7 -- or perhaps a Dual RSQ vhf 22 set ($102 ) -

I sure would appreciate your opinions and recs--

Thanks,,,,Ralph

Ralph

Welcome--- You ask a tough question , many here would say that GOOD QUALITY and REASONABLY priced should not be in the same sentence .

I'm not one of them !!!

I use one of these for my shows and LOVE IT . http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=277405

BUt with all the changes with the FCC and frequencies etc you may have to investigate further for your needs

ps: YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND $300 FOR A DECENT HOME WIRELESS SET UP ..unless of course ou want to .Then go for a SHURE set up and you'll be just as HAPPY!!... a few bucks less in your wallett but Happy the same

Samson and Nady are budget line mics and you get what you pay for. For home use either would be sufficient I would think. For recording, I wouldn't recommend the use of any wireless microphone.

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DJ Tony
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People don't want to pay more than they have to. If the Nady and Gemini mics were really good, people would flock to them. Then guess what? Their price would rise, and the price of Shures would fall.

I'd love to pay only $99.00 for a wireless mic. In fact, I tried it. Those sit on the shelf.

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$99 what are you CRAZY !!!!! I've been using the NADY duo for months now without 1 complaint and the entire set was only $49
I love these mics for what they are. A very affordable wireless set up that work well for ME and my singers. Granted they are not for everyones personal choice but worth looking into. And if you're not satisfied return them. Before you go out and spend $300 for home use.

If you think they are good, I suspect deafness.

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The Nady's sound like absolute crap on my system, lots of handling noise, tinny, have to eq the hell out of them just to make them sound less than desireable. Maybe it's the system? Could be a reason why some people think they sound better than others. Maybe for a home system like stated it will pass.

CHEAP - WIRELESS - QUALITY

You can have two, but not all three.

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Maybe I got the "lucky" set that sound good no matter who is singing.

Now Mcky I understand you have a voice that requires expensive microphones to sound good and thats ok . I'm not telling you again to use them.

And I understand that even NADY makes various lines of cheap stuff ---but the system I use ( again maybe luck) sound good ...and I'm not deaf !!!

I'd bet if I handed you a SHURE SM58 and told you it was a $15 nady microphone you would use it and say it sound like crap.

I found a website that has a pair of Nady wireles for 49 bucks including the receiver. I was thinking of buying them just to see how bad they were. After all, it's just 50 bucks, might be worth a good laugh.

Now here's a bet I'd be willing to take, a blind sound-off between different brands of mics. I can tell you from actual experience that I can audibly tell the difference between an e840, an SM58 and a Beta 87a without visual reference. You should have seen the look on the roadie's face when he realized I knew which mic he had in his hand just by him talking through it without being able to actually see him.

I can all but guaranty you I'd be able to immediately pick out the difference between a $50 Nady wireless and a $400-600 Shure with an SM58 head.

For those that want some specifics on where the differences actually lie, read up on the following terms:
* Frequency Response
* Proximity Effect
* Handling Noise
* Background Rejection
* Off-axis response
* Companding
* Multi-Path Interference
* Antenna Diversity

Once you've read and understand the concepts then go and read up on what Nady offers in each versus what Shure, Senheiser and the like do.

My experience has been that those who say a cheap model microphone is good are generally those who've never spent any significant time working with a truly quality microphone or have such significant levels of buyers remorse that they are stuck in a state of denial. I've seen a lot of KJ's and DJ's use Nady equipment and not once have I come across a piece that had the Nady name on it that I felt exhibited any signs of quality. They're a budget brand, plain and simple and unfortunately with budget brands come budget sound.

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I think Target has the Nady set for $29.99 if you want to spend less on your experiment. Don't get the Star Power Dou or whatever, it's the other set.

There was a blind sound off on this forum a while back and the expensive mics won.


Of our singers we have a variety from those who have sung professionally to those who just want to jump around and pretend to be a star. We had one dynamic, excellent male singer whom I immediately offered the better mic to when he came up for his second song. He said,"I think these sound great, what are they?" When I told him Nady he almost choked.

We had a professional singer do her thing for several songs. When I offered her the better mic and told her the brand she had been using she always made faces and complained about not enough pick up after she started any song thereafter but never would switch to the corded mic.

We have had many of the recreational singers try both mics and 2 think the OM2 sounds much better while the rest feel it is easier to sing into the Nadys.

We are constantly getting the "I sound so much better here," exclamation. But we landed in an area where the standards weren't too high to begin with so just having a more powerful amp and the Yamaha mixer has given us an edge without having to know too much about what we are doing. One other person has good mics but a lousy sound system so they are so muffled sounding you can't understand even speaking on them.

We got the Nadys when they came with something else and we might have gotten lucky also. My boyfriend does feel that one of the pair sounds better than the other so I'm sure they are iffy quality. But one of the mics has been slammed down on the bar, dropped twice and knocked over on the stand once and used while breaking up a bar fight and it is still kicking. They wouldn't be my first choice to buy again but we have a lot of our singers like them and as long as we offer a choice for the "real" singers and everyone is happy, I have ceased to feel guilty about them.

I agree that Nady is definately a budget brand and in no way near quality as the PRO Brands like the Shure and Senns etc etc. And I wouldn't expect an experienced sound guy like yourself suggest the use of them because that would just belittle your own existence as a SOUND ENGINEER
But I would bet 97% of all singers couldn't tell the difference between the sound of a $50 microphone versus a $300 both EQ'd properly. Don't get me wrong there are some CRAPPY $50 mics ..but there are also some decent sounding ones also.
You can spew all the techinal stuff you want and in a test or studio enviroment or in Carnegie Hall it may mean something. But in a normal quaility run Karaoke Show
It may be meaningless. I have and use a Sm58 Wired mic in my show and its a GREAT MIC. But for $49 the Nady DKO DUET is not a bad sounding system. Like you said there are many DJ's and KJ's that use them. But it just makes me sick when someone asks aboiut suggestions for a HOME system that is DECENT and affordable and people just want to BASH what others USE and have some real knowledge of.
From what I can see is that Shure offers WIRED microphones that cost from $19.99 up to $699 and wireless up to $6,729 -- I'm no expert but I'd bet the $6,729 wireless set up sounds decent.

Can't argue much with this (although maybe the percentage isn't quite that high). And don't get me wrong, I don't mean to belittle anyone's choices in equipment. I've said it a hundred times in varous situations, we all make sacrifices somewhere, if we didn't we'd all be running with line arrays, multi-thousand dollar condenser mics, etc. We all have our own budget constraints and such too and I understand that.

I do also understand the concept of fitness for purpose and certainly as I said in my first response to the OP, the Nady's would likely be fine for a home karaoke setup. Due to companding issues and the possibility of interference, I'd never suggest any wireless mic (even the top of the line Shures) for a recording situation.

My only intent is to point out that there are audible differences between the microphones that anyone is capable of hearing. It's not whether someone can hear the difference or not, but rather whether or not they choose to. I don't think most Karaoke singers or even spectators listen as critically as someone with audio engineering experience might. But the differences are there to be heard if you listen for them. That's all I've been trying to point out.

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You would lose that bet. The SM-58 and really any pro mic has a feel that you can't mistake. Not to mention missing the incredible amount of handling noise of the Nady. If you can't hear that, you *are* deaf.

I am not against all cheap mics. I happen to think the Behringer XM8500 is pretty good for a $20.00 mic. It certainly blows away any Nady I have ever held in my hand. It feels solid, unlike the Nadys which feel like they were made from a tin can. It has more handling noise than a Shure, Sennheiser, or other pro mic but it is pretty decent.

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As far as mics go you can tell the difference during mic checks. You should hear a clear distinct voice with no distortion. On the announce mic I use very little EFX. During mic checks no EFX. Some KJ'S mics are so distorted it is hard to understand what they are saying. It is very easy to detect the differences in mic quality.

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If you have nothing but drunken screamers, any mic will do. They aren't even listening to themselves anyway.

If you have ANY patrons who can truly sing, they WILL notice.

I can't tell you how many people have commented that my mics just "sound so much better than the other guys", or "KJ "X" mics sound so tinny and distorted".

I love to sing (and don't think I am half bad!), so initially I bought my Shure Wireless mics for ME, but now am so glad I did. They have been dropped, one had a beer splashed all over it, and yet they keep on rockin' and sound awesome.

I just wish I didn't have to buy so many dang AA batteries!

This rings true Ollie with my vocopro uhf 5800 4 mic unit. you sound pretty good singing but in regular talking voice you sound a bit distorted unless you speak loudly.

I need a 4 mic system as i always have groups of visiting kids coming to the stage nightly and like them on the same channel. sometimes i'll blank the mic and they don't even notice!

For singles, they use the wired sm58. That's clear in every way. -wouldn't trade it for nuthin!

Like jreynolds, I have a 4 mic Vocopro set I use for karaoke. I'm not sure if I will buy a second one or not. If I do, I will NOT BUY THE RECHARGEABLE SET AGAIN. One of my transmitters won't charge anymore.

It's very expensive to buy a wireless mic system that will sound as good as almost any $100 wired microphone. Maybe you can't tell the difference, but every professional will tell you this. However, if you or your singers want cordless, they probably care more about the freedom to walk around than they do about having a great mic. I still have wired mics with me at every show, and if anyone doesn't like my wireless ones, I offer them a wired one.

The reason I went with these cheap wireless mics is I didn't want to bring four $500 Sennheiser sets out for karaoke and risk them being broken. If a $100 Vocopro gets busted, no big deal. Also, the singers don't drop the wireless ones nearly as often (no clue why, but I'm glad they are more careful) and they never trip on cords because, well, there is no cord. Preventing people from tripping is why I finally went wireless, after some drunk fool tripped himself and fell on his face. I was glad he wasn't hurt but I didn't want that happening anymore.

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Wireless for me is pointless since the singers are required to stay on the stage anyway. It's a larger than most karaoke stage so it's not like they are cramped. When I had wireless & let people roam, they'd sometime go into the bathrooms while singing, among other things, but the final straw was when I had a mic walk out the door. It was a busy night & I was getting songs cued up & taking requests. No one really saw the guy skate out as he was singing. It was a good mic, the range worked all the way to his car as we heard the car door & engine start. No one got the plates either. I'd only seen him a few times before so wasn't a reg enough to know the name.
Ever since then no more wireless & stay on stage!

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I had someone try to steal a wireless mic once, too. Fortunately someone grabbed him as he was on his way out the door. I didn't make a big scene about it but I did tell him he would be banned from the three bars we work at, whether we are working that night or not, if he ever put any of my property in his pocket again. The place it happens at has a good enough video security system to get people convicted for stealing, too; as a purse thief found out recently.

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