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Lynn Blakely
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:06 am |
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I will second the EV ZX1 with the SB2A as I own this combo, and a EV SXA100+. They
are easy to load and unload, and hook up, being powered. BTW the SB2A has two amps
built in one powers the Sub and the other the SX1 on top, withe electronic crossover and limiters built in for the Sub and top speaker. Also the SXA100+ is self powered with
electronic crossover and limiters for each driver. This makes for a versatile configuration. You could use the larger unit for stage monitor monitor,and the smaller on the pole or stand. I tended not to reply as you are in NZ and I didn't know if you could purchase locally. Hope this helps.
Lynn B retired electronics technician "I've repaired the best and a lot of the rest"
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Micky
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:45 pm |
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Lynn Blakely @ Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:06 am wrote: I will second the EV ZX1 with the SB2A as I own this combo, and a EV SXA100+. They are easy to load and unload, and hook up, being powered. BTW the SB2A has two amps built in one powers the Sub and the other the SX1 on top, withe electronic crossover and limiters built in for the Sub and top speaker. Also the SXA100+ is self powered with electronic crossover and limiters for each driver. This makes for a versatile configuration. You could use the larger unit for stage monitor monitor,and the smaller on the pole or stand. I tended not to reply as you are in NZ and I didn't know if you could purchase locally. Hope this helps. Lynn B retired electronics technician "I've repaired the best and a lot of the rest"
I also second that The ZX1 are amazing and the SB2A are light and well match I often see people wanting to buy 15 in with subs, why would anyone want to do that??? Man, that's heavy for nothing and a 15 will never reproduce vocals like a good 8-10 or 12 inch
No doubt, EV is the way to go my dear
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tovmod
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:35 am |
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Is the "board" helping you with the purchase of the new speakers?
Anyway, I have heard the QSC K series speakers and there are numerous reviews on the forum at DJChat.com from recent purchasers
If there is anyway possible, I believe the QSC K series will provide you with the quality (guarantee), sound, and the ease of transport and setup that you so need right now. Not only are they lightweight, they are surprisingly small
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stogie
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:43 am |
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The K Series are nice speakers. Light weight and they sound good too and from a reputable company. I wish Electro Voice would come out with an 8" and 10" powered speaker in the Zx or Sx product lines. If you consider the light weight and convenience, the K series speakers don't seem as expensive especially if you do lots of gigs per year. For indoor use you could cover up to around 200 people comfortably with the 8", 10" or 12" IMO and much better with the addition of a subwoofer.
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:52 pm |
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jdmeister @ Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:42 pm wrote: MorganLeFey @ Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:20 am wrote: well certainly expensive here that is for sure!!! If I can get away with 12in speakers I might even be able to put them on stands myself...I have to lay my current ones down and walk them upright...which of course puts horrible strain on the speaker stand. hey 2 x 2500 is still probably cheaper to ACC than an operation and rehabilitation for 5 months Maybe, maybe not.. If they are the only ones you need, shop up here..
which would be fine till something happened under warranty honey and they had to be returned to base dealing thru an agent here would mean a valid nz warranty
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:56 pm |
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Murrlyn @ Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:18 am wrote: Vicki, at 32lbs, the new JBL 515 speakers are quite a bit lighter than the EON G2 15 that I have, and from what I have heard their sound quality is pretty impressive. The EON G2 15 weighs in at 20kg, which is still considerably lighter than your current speaker.
srnitynow mentioned the roller cases... I have two of those from Gator and they certainly do make it easier to move the speakers around. Another suggestion would be to get a pair of crank stands, which make it a lot easier to raise the speakers once they are on the stand.
As ACC are paying, I guess the actual cost is probably not as much of concern, but for you info, shipping the EON G2s to NZ a few years ago cost around $500. I had to pay NZ customs duty on the purchase price and GST on the combined purchase price and shipping cost. It still worked out to be about NZ$700 cheaper per speaker than if I'd bought them in NZ. Not sure how that would work out now that the NZ$ is stronger.
I think the consensus from people I have talked to is that although JBL are good, there are better out there...at present I am toying with Yorkville or QSC...folks I know who have used both prefer Yorkville but I have submitted both prices to ACC cos Yorkys are cheaper by $1000 and so hopefully that is what they will settle on
I quoted them RCF at $4000 each speaker, QSC at $2400 per speaker and Yorkville at $1500 +gst
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:57 pm |
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lyquiddye @ Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:49 am wrote: If you are going to pick up the K series speakers I suggest adding the K Sub so you have enough bass.
They are nice lightweight speakers.
$2500 converts to $2300 USD That stinks I can buy those here less than $700
Yep that is NZ for ya we are totally disadvantaged here and at the mercy of some really greedy bastards
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:04 pm |
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stogie @ Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:40 pm wrote: If you 'e doing 200 people or less you might want to consider a pair of Electro Voice Zx1s with a pair of Electro Voice Sb122 subs. The Zx1s weigh 18 pounds each and the subs weigh about 35 pounds each. I have no idea how much they cost in NZ.
This is what I use and with a powerful amp around 500 wpc@8ohms it will sound great. Here in the states the Zx1 is around $275 each and the subs are about $375 each. Each Zx1 goes on a pole over a sub. It's a very simple and light weight setup.
Another choice is the EV Sx360 powered speaker with no subs. A pair can do 250 people no problem. They are around 35 pounds each and here in the states they go for about $700 or $800 each. They sound fabulous and can get very loud. Since they're powered you would only need a mixer and a CD player or laptop to go with them.
I own the passive version, the Sx300. They are crystal clear and great for vocals.
The next step down is the Sx100(non powered) and they are excellent too. They won't go quite as loud as the Sx300, but they can handle 200-250 people no problem and they are very light, only about 32 pounds, the powered version-Sxa100-weighs 10 pounds more. The Sx100 is about $425 here, the Sxa100 is about $650 each. The light weight Sb122 subs are designed and intended to be used with the Zx1s, Sx100 or Sx300 and they give you a nice full sound that complements the tops.
I know Warfedale makes the Titan which might be a lot less expensive over there in NZ. I haven't hear them, but you should be able to go and hear them where you live. The RCF ART310 is another speaker that you should go listen to if there are any dealers in your area that carry them.
I would be surprised if you need 15" speakers unless you plan to NOT use a sub. If weight is a major concern you should definitely be looking at plastic speakers. The EV Zx4 has a 15" woofer and sounds great/goes loud, but it weighs 45 pounds and it's passive so you will need an amp to power it.
If I was in your situation I wouldn't consider anything that weighs over 35 pounds and even that is probably more than what you should consider. That's why the EV Zx1 is so great. They are excellent for vocals, very clear and crisp. Even though the subs weigh 35 pounds each they don't need to be lifted up onto stands, they sit on the floor. This combination sounds better than any Bose I have ever heard too.
I use powered speakers and wouldnt revert back to unpowered for a number of reasons, but the main being less to carry around and more control in very quiet venues like restaurants where folks want to listen to live music but still be able to talk in normal voices.
I have been using the 15 inch wharfedale evpx and I love them, but they are too big and heavy for me. I wouldnt go to the titan range and especially dropping down to 12 inch...love the big ones, love their sound, but thats the joy of carpeted ply as opposed to moulded plastic.
My main quest has been to see if there are 12 inch speakers out there with the same grunt as the 15 in I have been using. The only ones that dealers and others who have used tell me, are QSC or Yorkville...thats not to say that I couldnt add a sub to them at a later date, but the chances of ACC paying for a sub are slim...they might replace 2 speakers with 2 speakers...but that will be their limit. But at present they are not insisting I sell my old ones so for gigs of larger capacity I may have those to call upon as well
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:07 pm |
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Lynn Blakely @ Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:06 am wrote: I will second the EV ZX1 with the SB2A as I own this combo, and a EV SXA100+. They are easy to load and unload, and hook up, being powered. BTW the SB2A has two amps built in one powers the Sub and the other the SX1 on top, withe electronic crossover and limiters built in for the Sub and top speaker. Also the SXA100+ is self powered with electronic crossover and limiters for each driver. This makes for a versatile configuration. You could use the larger unit for stage monitor monitor,and the smaller on the pole or stand. I tended not to reply as you are in NZ and I didn't know if you could purchase locally. Hope this helps. Lynn B retired electronics technician "I've repaired the best and a lot of the rest"
Yes EV are avail locally and I havent actually considered them and perhaps I should...but like I said in a prev post the main thing is to try to find a 12 inch speaker that will perform as well as a 15 inch without a sub...its a tall ask and you have both said that it needs a sub. I havent got a day job so I cannot afford a sub at present...I have a tiny car so to replace 2x 15 with 2x 12 and a sub is kinda counter productive.
Thats not to say I wouldnt consider it if I can find the right mix
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:19 pm |
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tovmod @ Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:35 am wrote: Is the "board" helping you with the purchase of the new speakers?
Anyway, I have heard the QSC K series speakers and there are numerous reviews on the forum at DJChat.com from recent purchasers
If there is anyway possible, I believe the QSC K series will provide you with the quality (guarantee), sound, and the ease of transport and setup that you so need right now. Not only are they lightweight, they are surprisingly small
It is not guaranteed they will do this but yes that is the idea...the purchase of a smaller easier to carry rig will lower the risk of me injuring myself by carrying over heavy speakers that are so big I cannot see where I am stepping.
I will know monday how positive it is looking...the occupational therapist came on friday and lifted speakers and saw how big they were and accepted the 3 prices I quoted for RCF, QSC and Yorkville. But that is not to say they wont come back and say they will only pay $x and anything else is up to me
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:53 pm |
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just a quick update...the purchase of two yorkville nx55p has been approved in principal. What that means is if when I see the surgeon on wednesday he agrees that I can return to gigging full time by the end of the month, then ACC will purchase the two speakers for me. I gave them prices for 3 speakers...RCF, QSC and Yorkville and they accepted the cheapest
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the topic, your assistance has been really much appreciated
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Murray C
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:14 pm |
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Hey Vicki, hope the surgeon will give you the go-ahead for gigging. I guess this means that future ops on the knees are out of the question now, as ACC have opted for the cheaper deal... I imagine that that will equate to the old "lump sum" option whereby ACC wipes their hands of any responsibility after payout. I know when I wrote off a Mitsubishi yute with my collarbone, that I had the option of taking a lump sum but would thereafter have to foot the bill myself for any medical bills related to that injury.
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