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Actually, for in your car or at home, you want to use bug spray (like, for yellow jackets?)... apparently, it sprays about 4 times the distance of pepper spray or mace, and if it gets in their eyes, it can blind them until they go to hospital and get a med to clear it up.

If you're gonna go, you may as well go big:)

But I don't think they make bug spray that hangs from a keychain. (yet)

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How appropriate!

Bug spray for someone who is REALLY BUGGING YOU

I'll have to mention that to the females in my family

The problem with hornet spray is the legal implications if you poison or otherwise permanently damage someone. It is against federal law to use bug spray on anything but bugs, to my knowledge.

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I've briefly read over these posts a couple of times but maybe I missed something here. Why is everyone suggesting what you should do? What I mean here is... where is your financee in all this? At the very least I would think your financee would have a man to man talk with him and if the creep didn't get the message then other options can come into play.

Having a "man to Man" may not be the appropriate way to handle it.
The guy knew Bab's had a significant other before he followed her home and it still didn't stop him. Neither did having a wife at home.
Having a "man to man" may just escalate things and possibly put her fiancee in a very bad situation. Example: The perp gets angry, it escalates into a physical fight and her fiancee ends up with assault charges laid against him. Just one possibility....

I've always recommended women carry a perfectly legal can of hair spray and instructed them to tell the police it was all I could think of to defend myself.

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I have appreciated all suggestions from everyone here.

My fiancee actually did get involved that night. I think that is why a bad situation didn't get worse. The guy was pretty adamant about coming into the house for a drink, but when my fiancee got involved his whole demeanor changed and he left.

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and a bic lighter

Better yet a can of spray paint that way it is easier for the police to identify the dude. Hard to get blazing orange out of one's hair.

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Geez, next we'll be hearing that Babs got arrested because she assaulted a man and had mace, hairspray, wasp killer, and spraypaint in her purse.

(they'll say it was "premeditated")


Legal or not, if I have something within my reach that is going to protect me, I'm grabbing it. (the very reason I don't keep a loaded gun within my reach)

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He came in !

Friday night he was in the bar. I was slammed busy and was just going to ignore the fact he was sitting at the bar, as if I didn't see him. But he started waving to get my attention to put him in the rotation. I have a card with all his songs on it. I put him in the rotation and when it was his turn I left the stage. It was busy so he only got to sing once - thank goodness. I was able to get through it without having to say a word to him. I didn't even make eye contact.

He left before I did, so I felt safe. Plus the owner was watching him like a hawk.

Obviously he wasn't embarrassed by what he did or he wouldn't of come in. Aaaaarg! I really wasn't expecting to ever see him again. I would think a normal person would be embarrassed by doing such a thing !

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Well we can HOPE he'd be embarrassed - apparently some people are thicker than maple syrple in winter. DUH! Crass.

You're absolutely right. A NORMAL person would have been embarrassed.
Keep your eye on that one and NEVER underestimate him!
Good luck!
And I think you handled it well, and appropriately.

Psychopaths don't feel much in the way of normal human emotions including embarrasment. I like the hairspray and Bic lighter idea myself. That'd be a pretty awesome little flame thrower.

"With a flic of my Bic, goodbye prick!"

You indicated that he wasn't embarrassed. How do you know that? Are you saying that because of the fact that he came in to the Bar, or because he indicated to you that he wanted to sing? Since you said that you didn't really interact with him (other than to queue up his song), how do you know for sure?

I'm not trying to defend this guy. Whether he was drunk or not, it was wrong for him to follow you home that night. You never really told us much about this person. You did indicate that you've known him (and his Wife) for about 10 years, and that he is a friend of the Owner. You said (after the incident) that the Owner would have a talk with him. Maybe that was when he displayed some form of embarrassment. Maybe he was trying to get things back to normal. Assuming what he did was not meant to be malicious, sometimes it takes a lot of courage to return to a familiar surrounding... especially one where you know that all eyes are going to be upon you. Of course, if he is a psycho, then the reverse holds true too.... that it means nothing to be walking into a place where he knows all eyes will be upon him.

I'm not trying to play Devil's Advocate here (by posting the above). All I am saying is, you shouldn't assume what he was feeling or not feeling. Maybe it was nothing, or maybe it was something, BUT, do continue to keep your guard up when he is in your presence.

I understand you Cue.

I am assuming.
I didn't have time that night to talk to the owner. He just got back from his vacation. I did notice he was watching him, but they did not sit together. I'm also not sure if he has talked to him yet which also made me feel weird. The incident was uncomfortably bad for both of us when it happened. In my mind any normal person would feel odd about it. It did cross my mind that maybe he was so drunk his rational meter was off, but if he remembered doing it the next day he'd feel bad. I didn't give him a chance to talk to me to apologize if that was his intent, so you could be right.

Yes I've known this person for a long time, but as a bar acquaintance. There are some bar patrons you become friends with and others you know just because they come in all the time. I've probably spoke more with his wife than him in the past. He used to come in with her every Friday night for yrs than she got sick about 2 or 3 yrs ago and they stopped. He just comes in once in a blue moon now by himself. So the past 2 or 3 yrs our conversations have been very little. I'll ask how his wife is and he sings that's about it.

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The following home thing is just creepy to me. I can't think of any reason that I would follow a lady home uninvited unless she left her wallet or something and it was on my way.

It's just weird.

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Unfortunately, KK, it's far more common that you know.
It's happened more than a few times, where someone fixates on me for reasons unbeknown to me.
I don't care to find out what they are, either. As a woman, I just want it to stop.