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In my area, that would be illegal. Since it promotes "over-serving". Where I live, it is against the law to have drink specials, happy hour, advertise alcohol outside the venues, give free drinks, among sever other laws that made it hard to be profitable as a bar owner.

Now, while I agree that "water-drinkers" can have an adverse effect on business, they can also add to the general "appeal of a busy night", drawing more people... people go where other people are. Can it get out of hand?? Certainly. But, just don't discount them just because they only drink water. You may not see that they might be contributing in other ways. I for one, NEVER drink alcohol or soda pop (no carbonation for me). I ONLY drink water, milk and juices. Period. Many bars where I live do NOT offer any sort of food or kitchens. What would you have people who don't drink do then?

Whenever and wherever possible, I support the bars by buying simple things that they offer (chips, candy, etc), but that doesn't seem to cut it in some of the eyes of some hosts on here. In other words, what I hear from some of the KJ's on here is, "karaoke is for drunks",,, and I believe that is a bad attitude to have. I believe that karaoke is for people who want to have fun,, whether they drink booze or water. Singing isn't about how good you are, or THINK you are. Everyone has a song in their hearts,, we as KJ's just pass on the microphones so you can be heard.

Now, as far as the business part of it,, sure,,, if the bars aren't profitable, then there is no karaoke in bars. So, we might have to curb someone who is less talented, or spends less money, but to outright tell them, "no spending = no singing",, that is wrong. Simply wrong. Shame on those who think that.

This is something that I could live with quite easily. Since bottled water is a bit more pleasant than most tap water, especially in the cities. However, getting the owners to agree is another story all the way around.

so what state are you in?

i feel for ya.........

@ Johnny: "If singers come in before(or during) karaoke starts, buy food and then stay for karaoke and drink water, they are vital to many of the establishments that hire us. Please refrain from the term "water drinkers" when you refer to people who contribute nothing, or very little to our personal economies. Can we coin a different name for them?...."

How about UUCB (Uncaring, Unthinking, Cheap Ba*#&#ds).

Absolutely love that! I'm thinkin' the pronounciation is uk u ba!

Honestly, for me it's very simple: You don't purchase anything at the venue, you don't sing (exception DD). I've never run into a problem handling it like this. I never had an owner/manager telling me otherwise either.

My explanation to the freeloaders is very simple, too: The bar pays me to run the show, hoping to make the money back (or more) by selling their goods to the crowd. If you don't buy anything, you're not helping the cause and take time away from people who do. Hence you're not singing.

This is simple ..tell bar manager he is diruptive and is has complaints ftom other custies ..causing them to leave....have mgr tell this guy to leave..not allowed back. End of problem. Period.