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There are a few shows in the big city that market themselves to a younger crowd as having a rock concert like experience and sound really does seem to be a selling point at those. But at the neighborhood dives people just go where they are comfortable or where their friends are and sound is a bonus but not a deal breaker.

We came into a marginal sound area with equipment bought with Lonman advice and got immediate amazement at how much better our sound was even though we were new at running it and don't have anything near what some people on here have. But it hasn't tranlated out to people deserting the bad sound shows. (A few people have asked the others to "fix" their sound now and we've forced a few attempts at upgrades but we haven't stolen any crowds.)

We have an OM2 mic and a set of Nady dous and only two of our singers use the OM2 even though everyone tried it at first because of the skulls. They went back to the Nadys as "more forgiving." It is karaoke blasphemy, I know, but it makes the singers happy.

Now that we have our own show, when I visit others I start to notice all sorts of things about the sound. But before when I was just a "singer" the only awareness of sound quality that I had was could I hear myself and the music enough to stay on tune. I wonder how many others are in that same boat?

You've just described the most important thing the singer has to deal with. If you can't hear yourself, you can't sing your best. There are lots of shows that have 1) no monitor and no real good access to the mains, 2) crappy microphones that don't pick up low notes well and distort on louder ones, and 3) hosts who are happily oblivious to it all and figure 'that mic is good enough for karaoke". It is always a pleasure to find a show that addresses all these things, but it is one in five at best. Those crappy VocoPro mics are everywhere, sad to say.

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With Angel's system and the board set like that (shudders). Now I'm really disappointed.

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Wow!
I don't know. I may be wrong here but that just seems like your mid setting is really extreme.
The MOST I EVER set my mids at is 1, MAYBE 1:30 at the extreme, but I generally will have it at around 12:00, give or take.
Too much more and there's nothing but feedback problems.
As for bass, 10:00 is about where I have mine as a starting point but will back it off accordingly.
Too much bass would make the vocals seem really muddy, particularly with the deeper timbre voices. I actually back mine off, for the most part.
For highs, I set mine to about 1:00 or 2:00, depending on the singer.
I will generally have it at around 2:00. but will back it off for particularly shrill voices. I have 2 regs that I must basically turn it right off because even their speaking voices are so shrill, and their singing just amplifies it tenfold.
But they are the exception, rather than the rule.

I was offered to purchase some, once.
I said no way! I won't even use them to give my 5 year old to play with!
Might as well use a cheap Radio Shack mic as far as I'm concerned.
I generally use the Behringer XM8500's. Yes, they are cheap, but with the abuse that karaoke delivers to them, they hold up extremely well and they are not too expensive to replace.
I also find that I actually rather like the sound, considering.
For the price of the mic, I think the sound you get is amazing.
Won't get that kind of value from the vocopros!

Yikes....start straight up, adjust from there for each singer. I'm with Diafel on these settings. I hate MUD...and I hate SHRILL. So easy to fix.

Are you so naive as to believe that a Country Singer won $1,000,000 and a contract to headline a show in Vegas out of sympathy? And do you always follow the opinions of others? Not likely from the posture you take here (i.e everyone but you is wrong)!

My point regarding Kevin Skinner is that IN SPITE of the fact that his voice WASN'T great OR even the best in the competition (a fact even the judges acknowledged), he ENTERTAINED America and touched US with his singing heart! And I would pay whatever the ticket price to see him and it wouldn't be out of SYMPATHY.

Yes, there are so many who may not be THE BEST singer but somehow connect to a large number of people. The Bob Dylans and Jimmy Buffetts of the world come to mind. My boyfriend's son electrifies the crowd when he sings. We get home and play back a recording of it and go, "Huh? Why?" Something happens when he is live.

I've sang pretty badly at karaoke and still gotten an enthusiastic reaaction just for being lively and putting a lot in to it.

But back to sound--forgot the other thing I noticed as an "audience" was volume--either too loud or not enough. Never noticed the "Quality." But now as a host it is essential for longevity not to go home with a headache or ringing ears and we don't want to do that to other people, either.

Thanks for agreeing with my assessment of his talent and his sympathy contract. Many singers at karaoke suck but people recognise their effort by clapping. Doesn't mean they deserve a contract.

I don't attract good singers out of sympathy. I get them because i make them sound good. Better than other KJs. I don't get sympathy jobs either.

I don't know much at all about sound systems but I do know about human nature. People tend to brag about WHATEVER it is that they own and use. No one with a lousy sound system or lousy microphones EVER thinks that they own crappy equipment. Most of them just convince themselves that THEIR stuff is the best stuff out there.........or at least good enough for karaoke singers to use because they won't really notice or recognize the difference.

Angel, are you this person?
http://wookaraoke.com/blog/

Now there's a funny way to spell "wookie karaoke".

I have a book I picked up off Amazon.com wherein the author pushes a similar rotation system he calls a "pro ro"... I won't mention the name -- I wouldn't want to inadvertently plug his book.

Hey, I asked first!

Well?

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I believe Angel is gone, and therefore, cannot answer for herself (?). But I'm willing to bet it is.

That is sad to hear.
She was such fun to play with.

Why do you think that?

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Why do I think that Angel is Mrs. Woo?
Because I read Mrs. Woo's website and the resemblance is striking.

OR:

Why do I think Angel is gone?
A little birdie told me

I don't think so. And weren't you relying on the feedback and opinions of others to come to another one of your infallible conclusions?