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...The way that I understand the cloud is.....it will start out as a service that is a subscription of 60,000 plus tracks, anytime, anywhere, anyway you want it (yes, we just had a Journey Moment).

...Will those tracks remain for any period of time? IDK? When you sign up, you will download the tracks and they will be available for 30 days while online or offline per your paid subscription and you will be eligible for new updates.

...What is the exact price? IDK? Hopefully there will be options. I'm sure these folks (@Digitrax) are smart enough to figure out that there are KJ Operators who have been loyal customers (legally bought Karaoke in whatever form & have a library they're happy with) and only want to purchase/have tracks they feel they need or tracks they would like to have.

...How long will the songs be licensed and available for play/use for the KJ? IDK?

...Option: Will they sell one track at a time ($1.99 per)? IDK but they should think about it for those of us with extended libraries or sell/lease blocks. I have no problem (nor should anyone else) having my New/Updated Karaoke Tracks INKED to eliminate copying and reselling or reusing for multiple rigs (PIRACY) and or keeping it in the cloud for proof of purchase along with gig locations.

...I, also, have no problem with any KJ, Venue, Individual or anybody checking out my songbook while online, from anywhere in the U.S., to make sure I'm legal. Meaning, I have no problem with an audit of my DJ/KJ Library and to be honest, wouldn't mind the world knowing. If 90-95 of all KJs are illegal, then I am definitely in the minority and am ok with that!

The bottom line is, that it is a choice. You don't like it, you do not have to use it. If you want it, you'll get it. I don't know what all the fuss is about.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

If Sound Choice, Chartbuster, Pop Hits Monthly only make their stuff available on the Cloud and you want new music from them, then you don't have any other choice but to subscribe. In this case, you're not given a choice.

In every other situation, you're given a choice. Buy or Rent, lease or own...but in the case of the karaoke cloud, it's only "rent". There is no choice.

But, my choice is, I don't need them to be able to run a successful show.

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Electro-Voice Evolve 50... Taking Sound To The Next Level.

It seems that is what was stated at the summit.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

There is more than SC, CB, and PHM out there. You have SF, Zoom, Sing To The World from Great Britain, and other North American producers. And really, how much new stuff is sung, and if sung, for how long? Not too many.

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I notice, around here, new Country gets sung a lot.

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Uh Tim..... let's just clear up one thing here... The reference made to new music does not necessarily mean new 2012 music. It could also mean newly released music (in Karaoke format) from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, etc...

There may be more than CB and SC and PHM out there, but each of them are NOT all releasing the same songs as everyone else. One Manu may be releasing all of Carrie Underwood's songs, while another might only be releasing her top 10 hits. Now if SC or CB (Digitrax) were the only Manu releasing all of C.U.'s songs, and I wanted every one of them, what choice am I being given? I think that is what the people are saying here.

Cue, I understand that but we have other options to obtain from other manufacturers. As I said another thread, I think this particular cloud will fizzle.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

Unless I am interpreting this video incorrectly, all individuals above are incorrect. I believe it is stated in this excerpt from the Summit that there initial intention is to be $199 per month OR $99 per month if paid one year in advance:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsOCcLT5 ... ata_player

As you know I like the concept, but with those kind of prices they might as well give up now.

They need to take look at Netflix, Amazon, iTunes, etc. Would they rather have a handful sign up for $199? Or several hundred at $19.99? Like the cheesy ads say. It's all about "Volume! Volume! Volume!".

Bazza, you're absolutely right about volume and that is the reason Amazon, etc can price so cheaply. They have tens of millions of customers or more. What realistic numbers is there for karaoke hosts, maybe a couple of hundred thousand. They cannot sell as cheap. It's like comparing public transportation of Canada to the US or NYC to Mayberry.

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Then the whole thing is doomed to failure. I do not know too many people who would pay $199 for this new service. I have already mentioned it to a couple of my KJ friends and they laughed. Especially in today's economy. People need the money they make from Karaoke, and they have enough to pay out already, between taxes, insurance, and if they have employees. The way they want to do it, if you multi-rig they will charge you $199 PER rig PER month.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

Her is the only way I would ever subscribe to the Karaoke Cloud:

1. There is no subscription fee.
2. You pay $2 for each song (download).
3. They are now yours. You own them.

Other than that, there is NO way I would ever use the Karaoke Cloud service. They got enough money out of me.

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Electro-Voice Evolve 50... Taking Sound To The Next Level.

What wrong with you, Alan?
Bazza says the Cloud is the way to go, and if you don't agree with him you don't know anything about business. Geeze, you should know better than to go against the genius that is Bazza.

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I won't even pay that. I paid sixty cents per song with the KJMP with my deal. Even at regular prices, a buck fifty per song, of course who knows what will happen with CB going down. Glad I have more than eleven hundred credits left.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

I can't see me using it either because I don't make enough money to afford it unless something drastic happens. With my small library, I am having trouble getting jobs. I'm about to give up.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Screw that. Don't give up. You will find something. Make sure the people you go to know you are legal and they are safe if they hire you, whereas if they hire a guy with a million songs, they are more than likely at risk. How small is your collection. I am at 3200 songs.

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6213 and growing but can't compete with the 100,000 collections.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

That is a respectable collection. Think about how many of those 100,000 songs are dupes, and how many of them will NEVER get sung, ever.

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. You drank the Alan Kool-Aid I see. Tasty eh!

Looks guys, we are all on the same team here. You guys seem to be fixated on the delivery method, while I am simply looking at the bottom line.

More music for a low price is a good thing for all, no matter how you obtain it. Unfortunately, the "low price" part seems to be missing here.