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Kgirl, i could play the super bowl with my system.

I have Microsoft Technical Support on speed dial.


Dr.,  You are correct when you talk about an over saturated karaoke market.  Over saturated with incompetent KJs yes.  Cheap sounding systems, yes.   Cheap KJs that take any amount of money just to work, yes.

Do you see a way to stop it?  Do you see a way we can get higher fees?

Maybe we can form vigilante groups to go around and smash equipment.

Get kameragirl on board.  :hi5:

Your website didn't come up. You may have to type it in as www (space) (dot) (space) xxxxxxxxx (space) (dot) (space) net or whatever.

To defend kgurl, I've had people bring in an electric guitar, a specific "old school" mic (that was Portland's own [highlight=gold]Swingcat[/highlight], BTW), and I don't think that's because my karaoke was boring. One guy was a kj that used to work for me, and wanted to sing off his original song he'd recorded on a cd. He accompanied himself with his guitar, and did his own lead vocals over his own backing vocals from the cd.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make is, what you do kgurl, and what I do with computers... neither one is the RIGHT way or the WRONG way. They each have their own perks, and detriments. For you the ads and commercials and background songs or videos would be a problem. For me, it was a lifesaver. I also loved doing that stuff while the show wasn't running... for an hour I got to socialize with my regulars while I did custum advertising for the bar. Someone walked in that had an anniversary that night. Changed my background image to a celebration about that. did THEY ever feel special! They became instant regulars of mine. All because I had the capability to do so.

Your war with the illegals... I have no problems with. Just don't lob any grenades over to those of us that are slugging it out here in the jungle along with you.

Matt.
She typed in a funny combination of url and email address. So that www means nothing. Mod can see behind what is censored in edit view. strange.

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I can neither confirm nor deny ever having or knowing anything about nothing.... mrscott

How can people hear themselves sing when the monitors out that LOWD?

Got any $600 microphones?

Not really... she just reminds me of someone that's very, VERY new to the net.

Now SIDEWinder on the other hand, he reminds me of B.D.!! !

but SW do have a pair of $600 mics; just that he is not telling anyone.

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I can neither confirm nor deny ever having or knowing anything about nothing.... mrscott

There will always be legal and illegal..everything in the world.

Can they stop money counterfitters?   How about illegal passports?   Bootleg recordings?   Drug dealers?  Drug suppliers?   Moonshiners?    Fake Super Bowl Tickets?   Fake Gucci bags?    Fake Rolex watches?    Crooked Cops?    Bank robbers?   Illegal KJs?   Identity thiefs?   Cable TV stealers?   Stolen cars?    Purse snatchers?    Gangbangers?    

Get it???   Nobody will ever be able to stop anything, EVER.

Well i can only think of one that could stop everything....the big guy upstairs.  LMAO

What's this about having $600 microphones and reminders of BD?   It's come up a few times in recent posts.


Fill me in on the joke.  :headscratch:  Please..

I agree with many things said here. Contrary to popular belief (on this forum anyways!) IT DOES NOT take decades of kj experience to become a good kj. I have trained a few kjs in my time, kids in their 20's, and they picked up the skills and knowledge a lot quicker than i did when i first started out.

I did eventually lose them to their own entrepreneurial endeavors, but helped 2 of them get incorporated through my lawyer. This helped "curb" any potential desire to  undercut me or my other shows. (that was good and i didn't have to try to enforce my non-compete clause they signed). They still operate their businesses today successfully. I feel a bit proud because they turned out to be good KJs.

I think the many beliefs surrounding "what makes a great kj" are subject to a lot of things (personality, equiptment, music selection, honesty, integrity, fair-rotation, etc) but i think it comes down to constantly evolving, maturing, growing and adding THAT, and better knowledge/equip to your show.

A lot of once-excellent kjs i saw burned-out and became complacent, then MAJORLY  b*iatched about other new kjs as being the reason for their shows declining. They accused them of illegal activity when it simply wasn't true, or of undercutting the local market, which wasn't true at that time. They perpetuated a lot of un-truths and needed a scapegoat for their own failings to "keep up with competition or get left behind".

The younger generation has a focused desire to be better, although it's annoying to witness their EGO's at first, and to see the majority of them taking the illegal way-in, but talking to them, there's a real desire to better themselves,as far as skills are concerned. I see hundreds of them at DJ shows every year and talk to them.
A few years from now...they will BECOME US...and they too will visit 'the scene' for advice from us. A lot of them unfortunately got into the business with little $$ investment, but that's to their advantage.
We all KNOW the laws will have changed by the time they mature and all these arguements/debates will be null and void. You can't stop progress and technology.

I've been undercut before and lost jobs, and was annoyed, but didn't really blame it on those new kjs- they needed to enter the karaoke market SOMEHOW and thought price was the best way (it is!)..but later found out they needed better skills and equipment to successfully compete. The lazy and bad one's never lasted long, and i reclaimed my venues with an added profits. I'm sure many here have experienced this as well..

Fortunately I'm STILL going strong. I was asked TODAY to host at 2 competing venues i have never approached- only supported on my nights-off ( they're friends). One guy is retiring and the other has 8 kids- I think i may be working 6 nights from now on if the $$ is right- and hope NOT to become the guy i described earlier- from burn-out!    ..so much for semi-retirement!   Best,  J.R.

Back in the olden days when I was young for many years I was a TV repairman. With a wide experience in electronics which included over 8 years in the navy (guidance missle radar and computer) I put the emphasis upon knowledge and talent. After doing outside calls and inhome repair my philosophy changed. It turned into 49% knowledge and 51% honesty and PR. In those days you had 5 seconds after entering a strangers home to get their confidence. Then you had 30-45 minutes for repair and the a few minutes to collect from a satisfied customer and go to the next call.

In karaoke hosting I have the added advantage of a few years of shore patrol experience with drunks. I tried to start a thread here and discuss ways to deal with drunks and it turned into another bashing oh you dont know what you are talking about.

Everybody here is totally tied  up with the immaterial crap such as fill or no fill etc. If they do indeed host then their show is another one of those boring know what they are going to say next types. A good host constantly changes with the flow of the crowd. This depends upon age and attitude. It takes an attitude that we are there to serve the singers the rest of the customers. An example is if there is a table with strangers there one needs to find out if it is a party and what for. A birthday party we  announce the person and talk to them during the night (over the mic) and make them feel special. Sometimes its something like an EMT finally becoming fully qualified When we get done everybody in the place is clapping and shows appreciation. This is what makes a good host. And I do have the best host in the world. (at my age I get tired and cranky and loose the patience)

We make a practice of one of us doing the first song. Greg went through the welcome speech and already  knew the couple who were having their 25th anniversary and the the birthday boy in the other party. I did the first song and the first words out of my mouth 25 YEARS!!! I didnt last 16!!! I gave my welcome little stint then knocked them dead with After The Lights Go Out. This set the tempo and atmosphere for the night (see the wild one thread)

Loosen up and work the crowd It takes a special talent which grows with experience and some will never reach a point of being a good host. It does not show a lack of knowledge or talent on their part They are just not meant to be Mc's or hosts. This is what good or professional karaoke hosting is all about.

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The last two posts were so refreshing and so very, very accurate.  Now, I'm waiting for someone to come along and accuse you both of "hijacking" this thread!

Thank you SIR!! Come back and see us again.We are here very saturday night.


I had total strangers (non-singers) last night complimenting us on our show.. When they walk up shake your hand with a smile and make compliments it is sometimes better than heavy applause after a song.

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Bigdog (banned member) liked the emoticons, always thought he was the cat's meow around here, and sometimes acted like QUITE the pompous Arse! You DO remind me of him in your posting ettiquette. Oh and he could NEVER be proven wrong, even if you had tons of facts to back it up... hmmmm, maybe...???

Honestly, if I truly felt you were him, I'd never have mentioned it.

Knight you aren't the only one who thinks he may be, there have already been some discussions via PM with others about the eerie similarities between SW & the idiot known as BD.  Like you said the over use of emoticons, the never accept he's wrong even with facts to prove otherwise, the way he separates each sentence with a space in between, the coloring of highlighting certain words.  He hasn't gotten into the bragging of his system ie the $600 mics & subs that aren't crossed over & amp that underpowers the speakers.  No email or contact info, no idea on the location, Etc...
Put them all together & who might you have?  But again, BD was a complete and utter moron, unlike, well......hmmmmm maybe!  

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[shadow=deepskyblue]I'm impressed, I've never met such a small mind inside such a big head before.[/shadow]

Do we have to spell it out? Now you just let the Dog out

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I can neither confirm nor deny ever having or knowing anything about nothing.... mrscott

Been over a year, and as I stated before when this came up, I miss the guy, but like I've said before I saw what others saw as an annoyance as a dry, biting, or facetious sense of humor that frequents just about all the musicians bboards, which are places where everyone is a "Guitar God",  and if they aren't, their SN is J Hendrix or something comparable..  Thing is,  they love guitar, and like him or hate him BD loved Karaoke.  I guess I've seen so many types of folks on the Internet over many years, I can more easily spot who is actually vicious, deliberately hurtful, and who isn't..

Where others saw unyielding tenacity, I saw facetious humor much of the time .  I also see logic in ANYONE not divulging location, name, etc (in cases they believe to do-so can pose a threat to work, or just well-being IE... Some have been in nasty relationships and get stalked, it has happened in here..  but total anonymity comes in handy especially if the individual wishes to have the freedom to use such a site to talk and moan freely about problems that they don't wish to get back to their place of employment) all stated within Karaoke Scene is very visible to most on the Internet too but Yeah, BD stirred the pot but many do all over the net regarding topics of interest, and it's not wrong to do-so. In such a case where stuff gets under my skin I have three options, To keep fighting the point contributing to that which I find annoying, or to ignore, or just lighten up and treat the issue with humor, and BD seemed to respond to humor, and have a decent SOH abeit I've been known to have a sick SOH too (I know, tough to believe but it's true, on rare ocassions even I've been known to be sarcastic, and although nobody has noticed yet, sometimes I am even long-winded)..  Additionally, Many that felt attacked by him also cast stones his way. Maybe he never denigrated me because I never attacked him personally, although we disagreed on many things too, I kept things directed towards the topic.  He didn't dislike folks that didn't agree with him and I feel he took quite a few punches too.  I saw a lot of humor where others did not regarding that whole BD situation.

Dunno,  people often feel strongly about stuff I don't, and sometimes vice versa, but when things get to the impasse phase in a discussion, I really try to agree to disagree, and if nothing else, the topic of disagreement often makes me think because frequently vehement disagreement becomes a catalyst that makes me feel compelled to substantiate my point. Matt, Sidewinder, and others in the Escaped Tiger thread made me realize I'll need to really "lay-out" my point, AND THINK HARD rather than get frustrated at those that view things differently.  Several of us here disagreed in the "Escaped Tiger" thread, but we all lived thru it,  if it wasn't for strong opposing viewpoints I'd not have thought about the thread quite so intensely. We didn't stoop to ad hom attacks. Point being, that thread also encompassed  strong feelings regarding life and death situations, but we dealt with it and points were made as in any debate.

When the topic "Who was Bigdog" ? came up 3-4 months ago, I said I felt I'd be wrong to go with the flow (just because the guy was banned ages back.. Same applies when the topic comes up now, I don't wish to join the outspoken majority just because I haven't been in touch with a person in ages that I got along with). I try to be honest with myself in being this way too..

JMO,   not arguing with others feelings. These have been my own all along (as I've stated in the past), I respect folks right to dislike others for their own reasons, and I won't get between that, nor have I any right stating others feelings are wrong..

In my case since I'm typically a black/white person, what I learn from individuals such as BD, is that on the net, in actual social circles, and even in political arenas, a person can adamantly disagree with me on various issues, things can appear as "biting" tough, but such individuals can still be people I consider a friend.  Not an easy situation for me, but a VERY important thing IMHO, since that's life..

Is there some football game on now ?

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Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".

BD like all who visit here was welcome in the beginning.

He went overboard, not just annoyed, but PERSONALLY OFFENDED a good many members, so finally management pulled the plug.

He actually was very entertaining to listen to him blather on at times.

He did have many very salient and accurate observations about shows, techinal matters and karaoke in general. He COULD have been A VERY VALUABLE ASSET. But he felt the need to OFFEND people and subsequently waste his opportunity to help people out and become one of the leading KJ's here on KS.

Basically he gave HIMSELF enough rope and then HE HUNG HIMSELF.

Anyway, KS Management made a business decision and pulled his plug.

If you want to know more u can PM me.

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"You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT

GOOD! I'm not the ONLY hijacker!

only thing I truly disliked about the dude was he was all talk (and DID talk up a good game), but when pressed to show location, shows, etc, that's when he'd get very, VERY vague.

Annominity is a two edged sword. Yes it provides the security but when you're proporting to be an EXPERT on things, and then deliberately avoiding having someone come check you out??? Yeah... I smelt a rat!

It has not been my intention to make anyone on here mad or think i'm making a personal attack on anyone.

As far as my liking of the smiley faces...sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.  They add humor to a sometimes boring looking line after line of black and white text.

Someone put them there to use for a reason.

I like to use spaces because it makes for an easier read.   I need glasses and it helps keep things from running together.   If i remind anyone of somebody everybody hates, i'm sorry.    

I too, read things that remind of dead people...remember the kid from the movie?  LMAO

I guess i'm just bursting with information that needs to escape.   I use good wireless microphones but i'm not paying $600 for them.  LMAO   It's karaoke not American Idol.    LMAO

Oh that reminds me..Simon called me tonight to cancel.  He couldn't make it to my show so there were no auditions.   Maybe next week.

If i'm wrong about anything and someone proves it, i'll be the first to admit my mistake.  Just don't accuse me of something i didn't do.  That makes me mad.

Now who is guilty of the thread hijack?  And you better not blame me...