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Oh agreed that there is a judgement call to be made, and I do take a number of slips before my announcement of no more, with a caveat that "Hey, will slip you in if we have time, ok?"...

But there comes a point where I KNOW nobody else will be able to sing, and these just get told that "I'm really sorry, but I have announced no more slips, it's already going to take us up til closing time."

I've found that by estimating my stop time and not taking anymore slips 99% of the time it works out.

When i used to try and make room for someone or 'just one more', they would usually bother me right up until the end to see if i could squeeze them in. Then another person would try and do the same thing.

Thing is, in the end I WOULD GIVE IN and go overtime with both songs in order to make them happy. Personality flaw i guess. It Got to be old real fast.

And I think it's pretty annoying to have singers keep bothering you to see if you will get them in, unpromised or not. They usually say they "have to leave and need to know yes or no to tell their friends"" and will leave if they know for sure that they won't be able to sing. They might yell "rip-off" or get PO'd if you don't get them in, even though you didn't guarantee their spot.

Drunk people want the party to last and don't seem to care if a dj or kj doesn't get paid overtime or has kids and a family to go home to. -just an opinion.

Thing is, I honestly don't mind those people bugging me - will hapilly just keep saying no until they go away. It's this guys aggressive natrue, threatening. I am 100% tempted to simply not allow him to sing at the show again - but not sure how much that is my call to make.

after the 2nd question, I just smile, shrug, and say, "it's done, dude! NOT gonna argue with you." and then ignore them while you pack up!

Fair play - I always found ignoring someone rude, but what he wanted was a response, and I gave him one. Rudeness wouldn't be a worry here.

my point is not about being rude, but about them wasting your time in a fruitless effort for their own selfishness. ESPECIALLY when you do your job during the night and announce in enough time that last song will be x amount of time, not accepting new singers, etc.

The REAL rudeness is in their perpectual atempts to get to sing one more time and infringe on YOUR time as well as the venues!

You are 100% right. I am not the one being the problem, he is.

You can't make everyone happy.

I was the queen of trying to make everyone happy at one time and I would be stressed to the a boiling point by the end of the night. Most of these people I have to ignore because of their behaviorwill come back the next night apologizing they were drunk the night before.

You may not mind these people bugging you, but your actually feeding the fire. Like little kids if you do what you say you're going to do and stick with it they'll learn they can't push you around.

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Niouch, i think you must have a stronger disposition than I if singers don't get to you and bother you by repeatedly nagging, .

I'm more like Babs i guess- trying to please too much sometimes, but then there was a point of stress i didn't think was healthy, and came to the conclusion that i should deal with it as Knightshow does and just be straight to the point, twice at most, but still be a little apologetic and try to smile.

I have also, as Babs has, had singers return to apologise for "bad form" the night before, but out of many hundreds, only a handful even remember how rude they were.

I will announce SEVERAL TIMES in the last hour...

"last call (pause) for slips, if you want to sing tonight, let me know. I may or may not be able to get you up"
collect the books 10 minutes later

Near the end:
"now we have Joe coming up, then Jane will close it out for us"
"Jane is going to close it out for us. Thanks for coming..."

I tell a singer if it happens it happens, but if you keep bugging me it won't. Further once I power down, I start packing. I will not put up with drunks or idiots I don't have to and have no problem backing it up. I'm all for fun but certain things are not tolerated. This is a discussion I have with Laurie. He puts up with it (he still believes the customer is always right and you can't be "mean" to a client because you may lose them) , to me there's always a better behaved one to replace them.

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