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Ok, last time.

I've used my Nady DKW Duo many, many times. There is nothing at all bad about that product. It has worked flawlessly for me. The sound is very good. Not the most sensitive mic out there, but 90% or more of the people using that mic would be well satisfied. Is it comparable to a $400 or $600 microphone? Of course not. Is it good enough for Karaoke bars? ABSOLUTELY!!! If you don't like Nady, don't buy Nady products. The two Nady mics I've used were just fine and for the price, outstanding.

I don't use pro concert grade audio gear. My sound is still good and better than many sound systems I've heard. Karaoke in bars isn't professional musicians performing to large audiences who have paid to hear a concert. Most Karaoke singers I've heard are awful, some are just average and once in a while you will get a decent to good singer. Does this warrant a $500 microphone? In my opinion, NO! It warrants earplugs.

I take that as an insult, May I remind you that this is a room full of karaoke people.

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Actually it is quite the opposite. I have had it dropped about four times onto tile floor with zero damage to it.

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Danny I was prompted to purchase one after trialling one of the hotels first...every one of the 3 freeports they have have cracks in the casing...from as little as someone trying to change a battery and not knowing how to open them

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Jian, the truth is the truth. You choose to take it as an insult, that's too bad. At most Karaoke shows that I've been to, most of the singers were from average to very bad, maybe your experience is different. I bet quite a few Karaoke hosts use earplugs.

I started this thread to try to discuss different microphones and to allow people to exchange their experiences with different microphones they've used. Timberlea understood that and participated in a meaningful way. I've never heard of Apex microphones and I will surely look in to them in the future.

I'm glad to hear about the Samson 5H with the Q7 mic element. That will be my next purchase. As I said earlier, the Q7 wireless that I used the other day was excellent.

what is it with folks at the moment you are hen pecking stogie in this thread and eric in another...so their opinion differs. I watched this thread from the beginning and I think stogie did well to politely stand his ground for so long.



dude get over yourself

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Yes the truth is the truth, but do you need to insult people by suggesting an pair of earplug over a mic.
I use earplug when I do FOh work, and I use it as a protection for my ear against load sound.

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Thanks Morgan. I never intended for this thread to be for equipment bashing. I didn't imagine it would go that way or I never would have started it in the first place.

cheers stogie

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Facts:

When used with a good system with EFX properly applied there is very little difference in the sound between the Nady and SM58.

The Nady doesnt have the proximity effect and can be held close without booming bass.
For some singers this would be an advantage.


Unless a singer knows the proper mic techniques the SM58 is not automatically going to make them sound better.

For outside gigs or wild parties I would prefer the Nady and nobody is going to know the difference.

The main difference is durability whereas the Shure is almost indestructable. .However with the cost the Nady can be chucked and replaced.

They each have their advantages and the secret is knowing when to use them....Period

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Thanks Karyoker for contributing in the spirit of why this thread was started in the first place. I'm not here to create controversy. I got involved in Karaoke and entertaining because of the happiness, pleasure and joy it spreads. I'm not here to get involved in arguments and negativity. I don't need more toxic waste, there is plenty of it out there.

When you have crap equipment, you attract crap singers. The shows with good equipment attract good singers. The shows with the best equipment attract the best singers.

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Micky what utter tripe. We get some fabulous singers, a lot of average one, and some where you need earplugs or go out the door. The only way you get excellent singers all the time is by not letting other singers sing. If they are in the bar and put up a slip, they sing period. We do not discriminate based on talent. That is NOT what karaoke is about.

Stogie, not sure where you are in the world, but you can see the Apex at the Yorkville site. It's been our main mic and has been dropped many a time. Like a Timex it keeps on going.

www.yorkville.com

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What is with you people ????
I'll only sing on $400 + wireless mics

What happened to just having FUN ...WHILE you sing? My thursday gig is all full of karaoke singers who have a blast all while using a $49 dual wireless system from Gem-Sound ....OF COURSE it's not a $600 SHURE BETA system ...some of you guys DO sound like .....

If you are a singer you have to find YOUR MIC the one that sounds good to your voice the one YOU like the one that BEST suuits your style etc etc etc.

But you primadonnas can't expect the KJ's at your local bar to have the MIC you like

Karaoke is about having fun THAT IS THE 1ST PRIORITY and if people are having fun with a $20 mic and a VOCOPRO sound system ..... THAT'S GREAT

If you want to discuss which mic is the best for under $1000 maybe you should be discussing on a PRO AUDIOPHILE GEEK FORUM and stop insulting someone for what they DO USE

Over the years I used and experimented with a variety of mics - Senns, Shures SM58 and PG58 even a Behringer $15 mic. From a SOUND perspective if properly EQ's and tuned .... They ALL might sound very similiar .........Quality of Build - Handling Noise - PRICE - WARRANTY and COST all play a part in which mic you ultimatley settle on. Today I consider the SHURE SM58 as my wired choice and for the last few weeks been using a NADY DUO WIRELESS that seems to work just FINE ( as long as you keep fresh batteries in it). I personally have a problem with handing a wireless mics that costs HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS to someone who is drinking HEAVILY

I see both sides of this:

.........Yes, for some of us, "a few hundred dollars" is still a LOT of $$$$

Also, for the record, I use (2) SM58's Wired and have a SM58 Cordless for myself as the host. I do agree a little bit with the fact that I spent "thousands of dollars" on my equipment powering for the mic, so the SM58's are well worth the invenstment and not worth cutting corners there...MrD

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You misunderstood me. He said "average to very bad". We get "excellent to very bad". And I mean *very* bad. Everybody sings, it's just some of them are really good. We have a lot of above average singers compared to some shows. Compared to Seattle? They have better singers if the equipment and crowd is good, of course. They have an educated population dozens of times larger than ours. But I have seen some pretty average karaoke there, too.

I will tell you I have never seen a place with crappy equipment with lots of good singers. I have seen many places with good equipment have that situation.

I applaud just as loud for our bad singers as our good, and the crowds we have dance to them lots of times too. But a steady and unending diet of bad singers makes that very hard to sustain.

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We've used corded 58s forever; we have a few cordless 58s which we reserve for specific events; I have two headset 58s, and we also own a couple of Audix that we use for live stuff. Since we don't just sing at our own shows, I think the challenge arises when you go somewhere else to sing and the mics are of marginal quality. I admit the first thing I do is look at the mics. As a singer I am challenged then to try and make a great sound come out of a subpar mic. At times that is possible, and in reality if you are an experienced singer, you can often figure out how to make lemonade out of that lemon. However, mic technique doesn't matter squat if the equipment is of very poor quality. (It is great when someone wanders in to one of our shows for the first time and is just be blown away by the quality of the equipment - frequent singers come right out suggest to the new singers, "Hey, you'll get spoiled here," to which I say aaaaaayyyy-men, sistas and brothas, for that.)

Fact is lots of places use subpar stuff - but why spend a lot of $$$ on sound equipment and then put subpar mics in the front end of it? Doesn't make sense to me.

True, if that happens. And it does. No problem there -- it just won't have me. Which may not be a bad thing, either.

If you put a Nady mic on a VocoPro "karaoke mixer amp" and "Optimus" speakers, hey I won't say a thing. But put it on a Yamaha board and EV speakers? That's insane.

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Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.