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 Post subject: Re: Interesting Idea...
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It doesn't handle the multiple player functions like Compuhost, PCDJ Karaoke, Clubdjpro and other "player" software.

Even winamp can be configured to run multiple instances and you can fade between the two. And I could enque singers in winamp, adjust their songs, have singer screens enqueued to display before the singer got to the stage, so don't be slammin' Winamp, M! LOL


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knightshow @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:46 am wrote:
It doesn't handle the multiple player functions like Compuhost, PCDJ Karaoke, Clubdjpro and other "player" software.

Even winamp can be configured to run multiple instances and you can fade between the two. And I could enque singers in winamp, adjust their songs, have singer screens enqueued to display before the singer got to the stage, so don't be slammin' Winamp, M! LOL

I am slamming Winamp in comparison. 8-) That ain't going to change. It is a great general-purpose music player. It is a so-so karaoke hoster at best.

But you are right, it is still a lot better than the V2GO, for search and general versatility.

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Well, I like the mobility of just carrying around a laptop and not another drive.

I am aware that laptop drives are more sensitive to scratches than dedicated cd drives, but my laptop will play all but the most damaged discs fine, and I only get about 2-3 customer discs per show.

So my suggestion is going with only a laptop, and nothing else (besides your pa equipment that is). Mobility is the name of the game in my book.

I know some people disagree, but I even store my karaoke music and filler on my laptop hard drive.


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mckyj57 @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:54 am wrote:
I am slamming Winamp in comparison. 8-) That ain't going to change. It is a great general-purpose music player. It is a so-so karaoke hoster at best.
Maybe so, but it served me for so many years as the single, best, simplest way to serve my customers. Ever since I got Clubdjpro, I've got exactly the software I wanted to do exactly what I need out of a player!

Again, I don't need rotation management. Sometimes I wonder where you guys got started with Karaoke hosting.


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knightshow @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:04 am wrote:
mckyj57 @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:54 am wrote:
I am slamming Winamp in comparison. 8-) That ain't going to change. It is a great general-purpose music player. It is a so-so karaoke hoster at best.
Maybe so, but it served me for so many years as the single, best, simplest way to serve my customers. Ever since I got Clubdjpro, I've got exactly the software I wanted to do exactly what I need out of a player!

Again, I don't need rotation management. Sometimes I wonder where you guys got started with Karaoke hosting.

Don't knock it until you have tried it. Those of us who can 1) type in a singer's name and have their entire singing history (including key changes) instantly available, are 2) able to instantly tell someone when they will sing, 3) have auto-announcement of singers such that people are moving toward the mic as the last singer finishes, 4) have constantly scrolling promos for upcoming events, 5) who can juggle the rotation in a click, and 6) have our song history available for book printing and other purposes, are not going to change.

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knightshow @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:04 am wrote:
mckyj57 @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:54 am wrote:
I am slamming Winamp in comparison. 8-) That ain't going to change. It is a great general-purpose music player. It is a so-so karaoke hoster at best.
Maybe so, but it served me for so many years as the single, best, simplest way to serve my customers. Ever since I got Clubdjpro, I've got exactly the software I wanted to do exactly what I need out of a player!

Again, I don't need rotation management. Sometimes I wonder where you guys got started with Karaoke hosting.


Gee I must be living in the past somewhere.

I use winamp with autokdj plugin and it works just great.
It has easy search, rotation, history, plays zipped files all the bells and whistles I need and best of all IT'S FREE.

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knightshow @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:04 am wrote:
mckyj57 @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:54 am wrote:
I am slamming Winamp in comparison. 8-) That ain't going to change. It is a great general-purpose music player. It is a so-so karaoke hoster at best.
Maybe so, but it served me for so many years as the single, best, simplest way to serve my customers. Ever since I got Clubdjpro, I've got exactly the software I wanted to do exactly what I need out of a player!

Again, I don't need rotation management. Sometimes I wonder where you guys got started with Karaoke hosting.


Winamp is great if it's all you need. To say the bells and whistles of Compuhost don't make life easier is to fly in face of reality. I like spending less time on mindless management and more time dealing with customers.


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Joe:

I think you have made an invalid assumption. Some PC based folks DO carry their disks. The whole copyright issue (not meaning to dredge that up again) of the music not being in two places at once.

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SC has now given permission too, so it's really become a non-issue about the copyright thing...

as long as you OWN the discs!


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For those of you handling rotation manually... awesome. More power to ya. This, to me is a bore, and having the computer automatically move the next singer up, with their song(s?) in cue rocks.

Or conversely, a regular comes up and says, "I wanna spell", and 3 seconds later I've got TROUBLE cued and playing is just fun.

Each to his own, i guess.

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mckyj57 @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:38 am wrote:
JoeChartreuse @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:48 am wrote:
Pioneer, V2GO ( actually the same company), and now a few other player mfrs. offer CDG players with a built in USB port through which you can play regular or karaoke tracks directly, and still have use of all the players functions.( I have a V2GO, but am disc based).

My question, for those who are PC because they prefer not to carry discs, spend a few hours working on the PC when not at a show, and carry players to fill customer needs ( now you know why I asked- had to find out if the question was germaine):


Why would/wouldn't you use one of these players instead of a PC?

Not interesting at all.

They have no rotation handling, no history, no singer lineup marquee, no statistics and no history printout. No anything.

In short, it is just like playing with Winamp and not a state-of-the-art hosting program like Compuhost. It doesn't begin to compete.



Wasn't looking for a competition, only info. In my post, I mentioned that I was directing my question to those whose main reason for digital was not having to handle discs.

I am fully aware that if a host requires a PC to handle rotation and remember history that this would not be an option.

I use PCDJ/KJ Red ( The original version) when I absolutely have to work digital due to space requirements ( though not for rotation or history). I am merely wondering why more consideration hasn't been given to the option.

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exweedfarmer @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:28 pm wrote:
Joe:

I think you have made an invalid assumption. Some PC based folks DO carry their disks. The whole copyright issue (not meaning to dredge that up again) of the music not being in two places at once.


No assumptions were made at all, Weed. I DIRECTED my question to those who stopped carrying is all.

The copyright thing is another story. It rules against mutiple site USE, not storage.

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JoeChartreuse @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:13 pm wrote:
mckyj57 @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:38 am wrote:
JoeChartreuse @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:48 am wrote:
Pioneer, V2GO ( actually the same company), and now a few other player mfrs. offer CDG players with a built in USB port through which you can play regular or karaoke tracks directly, and still have use of all the players functions.( I have a V2GO, but am disc based).

My question, for those who are PC because they prefer not to carry discs, spend a few hours working on the PC when not at a show, and carry players to fill customer needs ( now you know why I asked- had to find out if the question was germaine):


Why would/wouldn't you use one of these players instead of a PC?

Not interesting at all.

They have no rotation handling, no history, no singer lineup marquee, no statistics and no history printout. No anything.

In short, it is just like playing with Winamp and not a state-of-the-art hosting program like Compuhost. It doesn't begin to compete.



Wasn't looking for a competition, only info. In my post, I mentioned that I was directing my question to those whose main reason for digital was not having to handle discs.

You said you had something you thought might be interesting. It isn't remotely so, or at least that's my opinion. It offers nothing.

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JoeChartreuse @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:17 am wrote:
exweedfarmer @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:28 pm wrote:
Joe:

I think you have made an invalid assumption. Some PC based folks DO carry their disks. The whole copyright issue (not meaning to dredge that up again) of the music not being in two places at once.


No assumptions were made at all, Weed. I DIRECTED my question to those who stopped carrying is all.

The copyright thing is another story. It rules against mutiple site USE, not storage.


Actually, all you said was...

"1) Was the the primary reason for going PC to avoid carrying discs? YES or NO (If no, just answer no-do not supply other reasons at this time)"

that sure didn't seem like it was directed to anyone but PC based folks in general.

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Yes - major reason was the discs
About 1 -1-1/2 hours per week
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JoeChartreuse @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:13 am wrote:
I am merely wondering why more consideration hasn't been given to the option.


I did consider it, quite a bit. Since my start-up money in this venture is minimal, I was very close to actually going that route. But it would have led to a computer run show anyway, so I decided just to go all PC from the start to take advantage of hosting software.

I think I will eventually buy a cdg player, but mainly to be used as a back up if my computer konks out on me.


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I tried it; a player with a usb port. My media is not mp3g but .avi, and even with just over 100 songs in the drive, the search function is so slow it drive me crazy. That is not all; it read only part of the file name, making it very difficult to make sure you are playing the right song.

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I do more than karaoke, my show depends on music and music on demand. Along with video and many other aspects. I haven't carried a cd since 1998 music and 1999 karaoke, a player with a usb port is not going to make my life any easier.


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exweedfarmer @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:18 pm wrote:
JoeChartreuse @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:17 am wrote:
exweedfarmer @ Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:28 pm wrote:
Joe:

I think you have made an invalid assumption. Some PC based folks DO carry their disks. The whole copyright issue (not meaning to dredge that up again) of the music not being in two places at once.


No assumptions were made at all, Weed. I DIRECTED my question to those who stopped carrying is all.

The copyright thing is another story. It rules against mutiple site USE, not storage.


Actually, all you said was...

"1) Was the the primary reason for going PC to avoid carrying discs? YES or NO (If no, just answer no-do not supply other reasons at this time)"

that sure didn't seem like it was directed to anyone but PC based folks in general.



Sorry Weed. I should have been more clear- my bad.


To Micky, who replied: "
You said you had something you thought might be interesting. It isn't remotely so, or at least that's my opinion. It offers nothing."

Then why respond? I never said it would be of interest to YOU, did I? This was a thread to gain information for ME. I am not for or against the use of these players, but merely wanted to know why they haven't had much response.


I DID get the info that I required, and thank those who shared their knowledge with me.

However, I can see that this thread is about to degrade, so as the OP, I request it be closed and locked.

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