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Connie
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:09 pm |
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Nancyk @ Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:41 pm wrote: Quote: However, I feel strongly about replies. When singers do not reply to their comments with at least "thank you", Connie, I agree with this. I guess I haven't been around long enough to actually keep track of who is or is not responding to my comments, although I do read and enjoy the replies I see, I can't tell you who has not and that I don't listen to them anymore. But I can see where, if you've been here a long time and are familiar with those who don't give appropriate thanks, that you would rather spend your time at other profiles. I had spoken about listens/comments, not replies.
Several weeks after I joined here I discovered the "view all" . It's located under your avatar in your profile. It will take you to all your comments and the replies you receive. I find it helpful in keeping track of who I commented to.
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:38 pm |
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LLL
Ain't the first time!
Won't be the last!!
Like Knightshow, huge reason I don't sub eenymorrrre....four years now.
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P Tucker
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:14 pm |
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Nancyk @ Sat 14 Mar, 2009 wrote: Quote: I wonder what the newest members are thinking. I'm a new member, so I will risk getting into trouble to answer your question. I am not stepping into this situation with this post at all (same is if I were invited to someone's house for dinner and an argument erupted, being a new person to the table, I would never interfere), I am just answering your question, Connie. This post is to YOU, it is not any indirect wagging of my finger to anyone else, in my opinion I am too new to have the right. I never thought a place like this would even have drama, so I have kind of watched from the sidelines, pretty surprised, I stumbled on it by accident (at first amused that a person would use a sub description as a sounding board). I probably should have left it alone, but as a human, the curiosity won me over. What was going on? I don't really know anybody and it took me a while to piece it together (probably time better spent listening to real submissions) and perhaps I'm wrong, because I'm a little confused, but here is where I understand things today. A group of anonymous lady members made fun of and mocked another member. Evidently this member was not well-liked by some as there were claims that she was full of herself and reacted defensively to a negative critique from a popular member. Offended and hurt by this meanspiritedness, the parodied member left. Somewhere in the mix, another, well-liked member left, evidently because she defended the hurt member and got jumped on (and another left, just sick of all the drama, which I can't blame). Another anonymous member posted to bust out the meanness of making fun of another member and running them off, which was done in a not so diplomatic or grown-up manner and itself was meanspirited, yet it was to bring attention to the maliciousness of the parody and its fallout. That sub was attacked. It then claimed to be an April Fool's joke and now, frankly, I don't even understand what's really what and if it was a joke, it wasn't funny. In trying to follow things, I also see that some members take interest in tallying comments. I make a list of songs and members I plan to listen to and I enjoy when I do and if I have a comment to make, I leave it. But the truth is it takes like 30 seconds to submit a song and check for comments once in awhile, but it takes more than an hour to listen to everything I want, comment, and reply to my (very much-appreciated) feedback and comments. It is no short task for me to leave comments, because I don't want to comment just for the sake of leaving a comment and just put any ol' thing, it takes time to leave something that I really mean, it's important to me that it is important to you (any member). It would take far longer than that to do all I want to do, but eventually there is just no more time. I have five jobs, I was thrilled to come to a place to share and listen and be friends because, being in front of the computer for almost all my work, I don't get to go out a lot with friends face-to-face, but I am very uncomfortable constantly now that I do not have the time to give that I am required. I did not realize it would be a commitment. Everyone here puts so much time into their music, they deserve a commitment from others who submit, I certainly do not argue that, it's only fair, I just didn't realize that when I signed up (and it is a far busier site than I expected! Its success is wonderful for KS and karaokers and KJs!). I continue to listen and comment as I can as I want to, but I am always worried now that it is not enough or that I am not being fair enough with the little spare time I have. I am sensitive and after watching this I am concerned that someday I will say the wrong thing, submit the wrong thing, have the wrong attitude, or get hurt and show it, and I will be the member made fun of and others will enjoy it. I can say that, as a new person who does not know all but just a couple people here, just from looking outside in, I was disturbed that making fun of another member, regardless of the reason, was enjoyed and defended by others. It is my understanding that most members didn't really understand what was going on or that their primary goal was to keep the peace, and in such a big family I really respect that. Yet, what if that parody had been about me? How would I feel? How would I feel that so many family members thought it was awesome and bashed the one person who came to my defense and tsk'ed another who busted out the meanness of such an act, where only the delivery was admonished but the message ignored? What if I don't do something right according to some and that gets me in the doghouse and mean things are said about me? Also, I am thinking if I do not have the proper time to listen and comment enough, that the fair thing is that I should not submit. So, the short answer to your question, Connie, is that this newbie is very happy now because everyone has been so very, very kind and generous with their visits to my songs and their comments, including you and that is one reason I am taking the time to reply to your post, and I have been able to carve out time to listen and comment thus far, but I am extremely uncomfortable for the day that I misstep or there is a misunderstanding, and constantly worried that I do not give enough and maybe I won't be able to carve out as much time as I would like, and it's kind of stressful for me. I read it mentioned that members can see who visits what and how many times and now I feel like my wanderings can be monitored and judged. Will I get run off when someday someone doesn't approve of the way I spend my time here or I don't fit right? Which will probably be the second I click "submit" on this post and I'm aware of that. I am sure not all newbies feel this way and some probably aren't even aware of this situation. This is just what I have gotten from it. Again, just sharing an answer to your question. Hope it sheds some light on what things look like out here looking in, in regard to this event.
Nancy, that was very well thought out and presented! And YOU are totally on the right track here! I would say that to avoid any feelings of obligation, being pressed for time as I am, submit your songs as "Listen Only". Then, when you have time to listen, listen to who you like and problem solved!
I have always had the feeling that some people are only trying to build their library of comments or whatever by listening to my "very amateuristic" singing and recording. And after a while, it becomes evident that I may be right.
When you try to make friends with people who are only after praise with their music, it's as if you did something wrong if you miss someone's song here and there.
I've been a paying member here since 12/05, and these "friends" of mine have never even recognized my birthday!
It's apparent that I'm not really family around here, because there are B-Day dedications filling up whole pages in SS everyday just about. I'm sure someone will be offended that I'm offended now, so, what's new?
There are also the ones who stir up drama behind the scenes, and then appear in person to join in on the mayhem, or to confirm their lack of knowledge thereof. This "family" spends many hours of each day conversing privately through pm's and email. Who knows who is really genuine around here? But when it comes to the music and listening, you find out who is genuine because they keep coming back to you no matter what.
Some people just have more time than others is what I'm guessing. Even if I did have the time, I can't play this game anymore. I recently went to "Listen Only" for myself. I don't need comments, I know who likes me around here. It's not necessary for me to receive comments on my music. I will however, listen to who I like, and leave a comment. This place doesn't have to be so difficult to deal with! I think "DADDY" hit the nail on the head with "Grow up people". I'm not here for any kind of personal gain. I've been doing this amateur singing for a few years now. It's become a habit is all. Now, if I could only quit smoking!
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:59 pm |
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well its simple really...I sub in honour of birthdays of people I know, like and respect
_________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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P Tucker
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:58 am |
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MorganLeFey @ Wed 15 Apr, 2009 wrote: well its simple really...I sub in honour of birthdays of people I know, like and respect
You again? Thought you didn't love me anymore?
Yet here you are again?
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Andygurl
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:33 pm |
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This is just a general statement or my 2 cents if you will...
You wanna put your heart & soul out there On display, well then be prepared to take the good with the bad from people & grow a thick skin cause you can't & won't please everybody even if you're the best thing since sliced bread & basically that applies to everything in life. Just be yourself & don't worry bout who likes you or who doesn't cause again, u r not gonna please everybody, believe me I tried ! & try not to be too concerned bout the incidentals & concentrate On the music... that's where it's at for me... it's all bout the music! Peace & Love
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P Tucker
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:59 am |
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Hi Andrea. I don't know if you're referring to just anyone in general, but I believe you mean well. The problem is.....people who don't mean well. And I think everyone is well aware of "WHO" I'm referring to.
I guess another fantastic singer was run away from here by the black widows of SS.
It's just unbelievable that the same people can keep pulling the same stunts and still have so much support! Myself, I don't give a rats a$$ what some of these losers(if the shoe fits) think of me! And that's why I'm not afraid to put it out in the open!
It's not that I think I'm getting a raw deal by anyone in particular. If my music isn't the greatest, it isn't the greatest! I know this!
We're not talking about music now, we're talking about how people treat the others around them, and then try to turn the tables as if they are totally unaware of their own shortcomings. I am sensitive and perceptive to these things and who is involved usually. So making me look crazy publicly is just another part of the game.
I just think some people make it obvious that this is only a game to them....ki$$ my a$$, or else you're not my friend.
Well, I came here with no friends, so where's the loss?
People just don't wanna hear the truth, cause it's painfully correct.
I don't need to be a part of "The Birthday Club". It's just ridiculous to assume that something so trivial upsets me that much. It's been over 3 years now....what's another year? And it's funny that anyone would answer...."we're not mind readers". But did anyone ever bother to ask?
The truth is hardly ever worth mentioning. Especially when it makes any sense at all.
So, I'll keep paying to sing here regardless of whether or not "the family" makes me feel welcome. It's just a hobby, not something that evolves into anything else.
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Andygurl
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:33 pm |
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No Perry I'm not referring to just anyone in general ... I just read what folks hafta say around the forums & wonder why they are so concerned bout what other people think, whether it's to do with their music or them personally. I mean their gonna think what they wanna think anyway no matter what but like I said, ya can't please everybody. I experienced so much crap On this site since I've been here but most of the time I just let it slide cause I don't wanna play the tit for tat game which can go On forever if ya let it. Unless someone really pisses me off then I'll confront them & tell them to knock it off & leave me alone... then just ignore them & eventually they go away.
Nobody was run off this site... really, if ya think bout it, did the people that were allegedly run off this site have a gun to their head?...NO... they just chose to leave On their own accord. Ya wanna put your soul out there On the table then ya better be prepared to hear all kinds of judgemental comments, good or bad. Yea sometimes it's a cruel world but if anything, things that happen like that should make people stronger & make them strive harder to be better, not give Up, run & hide & feel sorry for themselves. We all have different levels of talent as well as something to offer cause we're all artists in our own right. Sure I may not be a "singer" persay but I'll never stop singing, recording & subbing cause I love it so much & nobody, I mean nobody will take that joy away from me or make me feel any less of myself.
Keep On singing Perry cause I for 1 always enjoyed your subs
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:35 pm |
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perhaps you need it explained Perry...its not a birthday club.
if you look to the menu to the left of the page you will see Events Calendar. On there are the birthdays of the people who have bothered to include them in their profile.
Some of us who care about the folks we deal with here on a day to day basis check the EVENTS CALENDAR so as we can suprise folks with a birthday song.
No mind reading, no witch craft...simple courtesy.
Now dont you feel just a little bit foolish making all this to do about something so simple? If it is something that worries you then include your birthday on the events calendar and I am sure those that still wish to stroke your ego will oblige and sing you something
_________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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P Tucker
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:04 pm |
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MorganLeFey @ Tue 21 Apr, 2009 wrote: perhaps you need it explained Perry...its not a birthday club. if you look to the menu to the left of the page you will see Events Calendar. On there are the birthdays of the people who have bothered to include them in their profile. Some of us who care about the folks we deal with here on a day to day basis check the EVENTS CALENDAR so as we can suprise folks with a birthday song. No mind reading, no witch craft...simple courtesy. Now dont you feel just a little bit foolish making all this to do about something so simple? If it is something that worries you then include your birthday on the events calendar and I am sure those that still wish to stroke your ego will oblige and sing you something
No, I don't feel foolish because you think I should. This was not even about the freakin' "Birthday Club". I just made an example to Nancyk that being part of "a family" here is just wishful thinking. And if she's worried about problems from people like "YOU", just elect not to have comments on her songs and skip all the drama.
You really are full of yourself lady. And until people realize it, this place will never have a welcoming atmosphere. I don't need this BS from you. What makes you think it's okay for you to chastise me publicly anytime you feel like it?
Get over yourself. Unless this is what makes you feel needed?
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:08 pm |
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I realise you are upset becos I refuse to stroke your ego Perry, so its ok to nut off at me...but to try to drag Joyce in on it by quoting what she said in response to you is below the belt. Why not simply be a man and apologise to her for trying to ruin her birthday.
Luckily the outpouring of love and respect for her was so huge that your tiresome tantrums barely registered
_________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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P Tucker
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:53 pm |
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OMG! This was not even about Joyce! I only made the mistake of mentioning it on her day! For that, I do feel foolish. And she is one of the people I like here!
I also liked you at one time! But you made it easy for me to realize what you really are.
I bet Phill doesn't appreciate this bickering, so I'm stopping now.
I just hope someday y'all realize that my "ego" never did require the "stroking" you so hatefully suggest. That is one reason I went to "L" in SS.
You don't have to "draw me a map". I'm not going anywhere.
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Andygurl
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:44 pm |
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This is just another general statement...
It just cracks me Up that people hafta leave the site (so they say) cause their feelings got hurt in 1 way or another. What the heck do they do when a real life crisis hits, run & hide? 1 things for sure, they always come back, I've seen it time & time again... especially if they make the "official announcement" that they're leaving then you know for darn sure they'll be back cause their just looking for sympathy from anyone & everyone that will listen & possibly plead with them to come back.
Just remember, ya gotta love yourself 1st before anyone else can love you.
Believe in yourself & your own abilities & don't let a lil' negativety set you back cause this is the real world... just cause it's a singing site doesn't mean it's always gonna be honky dory or that you're gonna be protected from the big bad singers. This kinda stuff happens wherever you go in life so either learn how to deal with it or stay out of the kitchen.
Anytime you have a group of people in the same room with the same interests/passions as you such as singers, dancers, ect., stuff like this is bound to happen but only the strong willed will perservere.
Peace out
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:56 pm |
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Andrea you have a good head on your shoulders...
ok I'll shut up now in case I am accussed of brown nosing
_________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:23 pm |
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PCornell @ Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:04 am wrote: You really are full of yourself lady. And until people realize it, this place will never have a welcoming atmosphere. I don't need this BS from you. What makes you think it's okay for you to chastise me publicly anytime you feel like it? Get over yourself. Unless this is what makes you feel needed?
because little boy, you keep harping on about the same old same old. If you stopped the silly innuendo and just got on with life instead of worrying about the "mysterious" some people that you keep alluding to in your posts, then you would hear nothing from me. Until you quit the poor me posts and the "some people" posts then you will find that I will be happy, NAY, proud to put up my hand and say the "some people" you continually refer to is me.
You seem to think I pick on you for no reason...folks dont realise how you lived in my inbox complaining about this one and that one...I tried reasoning with you many times and it didnt work...you accused a long standing member here of being selective about who she responded to when replying to comments on her subs...I told you then that it would be an oversight on her part not her dreaming up some way of ruining your life, So you lumbered me into some kind of conspiracy theory. . Perry when I become friends with someone I choose to accept them with their faults, I am not a fairweather friend, but your friendship was just in the too hard basket. So I choose NOT to be your friend...if you only realise that I am not your adversary...in fact with your paranoia and your stupid accusations that have no foundation in fact, your biggest enemy is YOU.
REmember the time when you complained to me that someone here was treating you differently since they discovered you had false teeth...again I assured you the person in question was a decent guy and I couldnt see him making character assumptions based on teeth...did you listen? hell no!!!
and now we get to this current debacle where you are publicly denouncing the "birthday club" and when it is pointed out to you that it is no more than a few of us caring enough about others to keep up to date with the events calendar, you create yet another song and dance.
Perry you have been here as long as I have, yet you never bothered to investigate the karaoke scene menu items? you need to stop expecting to be spoon fed.
Oh and another thing, I have yet to see or hear of anyone (including myself) who has ever told you that your music sucks or that you are anything other than talented...oh and just for the record...no-one is attempting to show you the door...as I have said to you several times, privately first, then when you decided to take it public, I have said it publicly...you are simply not that important in the greater scheme of things.
So just recapping so no-one misses the significance...the "some people" in Perry's numerous "poor me" posts is none other than me
_________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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P Tucker
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MorganLeFey @ Tue 21 Apr, 2009 wrote: PCornell @ Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:04 am wrote: You really are full of yourself lady. And until people realize it, this place will never have a welcoming atmosphere. I don't need this BS from you. What makes you think it's okay for you to chastise me publicly anytime you feel like it? Get over yourself. Unless this is what makes you feel needed? because little boy, you keep harping on about the same old same old. If you stopped the silly innuendo and just got on with life instead of worrying about the "mysterious" some people that you keep alluding to in your posts, then you would hear nothing from me. Until you quit the poor me posts and the "some people" posts then you will find that I will be happy, NAY, proud to put up my hand and say the "some people" you continually refer to is me. You seem to think I pick on you for no reason...folks dont realise how you lived in my inbox complaining about this one and that one...I tried reasoning with you many times and it didnt work...you accused a long standing member here of being selective about who she responded to when replying to comments on her subs...I told you then that it would be an oversight on her part not her dreaming up some way of ruining your life, So you lumbered me into some kind of conspiracy theory. . Perry when I become friends with someone I choose to accept them with their faults, I am not a fairweather friend, but your friendship was just in the too hard basket. So I choose NOT to be your friend...if you only realise that I am not your adversary...in fact with your paranoia and your stupid accusations that have no foundation in fact, your biggest enemy is YOU. REmember the time when you complained to me that someone here was treating you differently since they discovered you had false teeth...again I assured you the person in question was a decent guy and I couldnt see him making character assumptions based on teeth...did you listen? hell no!!! and now we get to this current debacle where you are publicly denouncing the "birthday club" and when it is pointed out to you that it is no more than a few of us caring enough about others to keep up to date with the events calendar, you create yet another song and dance. Perry you have been here as long as I have, yet you never bothered to investigate the karaoke scene menu items? you need to stop expecting to be spoon fed. Oh and another thing, I have yet to see or hear of anyone (including myself) who has ever told you that your music sucks or that you are anything other than talented...oh and just for the record...no-one is attempting to show you the door...as I have said to you several times, privately first, then when you decided to take it public, I have said it publicly...you are simply not that important in the greater scheme of things. So just recapping so no-one misses the significance...the "some people" in Perry's numerous "poor me" posts is none other than me
LMMFAO!! Again with the same 'ole same 'ole! As if this is all about you, and I want you to be my friend!
Must you keep on displaying the details about the teeth, and the other singer, and the whatever else?
It's as if you have to keep justifying your gripe with me, but at the same time, mocking me.
I stand my ground about you. So, you go on and pretend to rule, and everything you say can be an end all.....makes no difference to me. You're not a significant factor in my life. And those who support your cause can continue as well.
Next time I step in for someone else and state a few truths, I'll expect the same 'ole same 'ole from you. Adios.
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MorganLeFey @ Tue 21 Apr, 2009 wrote: PCornell @ Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:04 am wrote: You really are full of yourself lady. And until people realize it, this place will never have a welcoming atmosphere. I don't need this BS from you. What makes you think it's okay for you to chastise me publicly anytime you feel like it? Get over yourself. Unless this is what makes you feel needed? because little boy, you keep harping on about the same old same old. If you stopped the silly innuendo and just got on with life instead of worrying about the "mysterious" some people that you keep alluding to in your posts, then you would hear nothing from me. Until you quit the poor me posts and the "some people" posts then you will find that I will be happy, NAY, proud to put up my hand and say the "some people" you continually refer to is me. You seem to think I pick on you for no reason...folks dont realise how you lived in my inbox complaining about this one and that one...I tried reasoning with you many times and it didnt work...you accused a long standing member here of being selective about who she responded to when replying to comments on her subs...I told you then that it would be an oversight on her part not her dreaming up some way of ruining your life, So you lumbered me into some kind of conspiracy theory. . Perry when I become friends with someone I choose to accept them with their faults, I am not a fairweather friend, but your friendship was just in the too hard basket. So I choose NOT to be your friend...if you only realise that I am not your adversary...in fact with your paranoia and your stupid accusations that have no foundation in fact, your biggest enemy is YOU. REmember the time when you complained to me that someone here was treating you differently since they discovered you had false teeth...again I assured you the person in question was a decent guy and I couldnt see him making character assumptions based on teeth...did you listen? hell no!!! and now we get to this current debacle where you are publicly denouncing the "birthday club" and when it is pointed out to you that it is no more than a few of us caring enough about others to keep up to date with the events calendar, you create yet another song and dance. Perry you have been here as long as I have, yet you never bothered to investigate the karaoke scene menu items? you need to stop expecting to be spoon fed. Oh and another thing, I have yet to see or hear of anyone (including myself) who has ever told you that your music sucks or that you are anything other than talented...oh and just for the record...no-one is attempting to show you the door...as I have said to you several times, privately first, then when you decided to take it public, I have said it publicly...you are simply not that important in the greater scheme of things. So just recapping so no-one misses the significance...the "some people" in Perry's numerous "poor me" posts is none other than me
Okay, yes, this is ridiculous. It has to stop. You are partially correct in the things you say about me, but you really stooped pretty low when you brought the private out into the open. That is when the real duel began. You also said a few things off color about our friend, but I never brought that into the open....that's just too low. (I still have the pm's also)
I was wrong to make assumptions back whenever that was, and felt like an idiot about the whole thing. I even apologized through pm, but it wasn't accepted I guess?
This name calling and public ridicule might be some funny drama for people to watch, but in the end, we're both none the better.
There is no way you could understand what a person goes through in life just by what is spoken on the internet. But it seems that you've already made a conclusion and refused to agree to disagree with me. I'm not the only one with personal problems in life. We all have 'em, but we don't all get the same tolerance as others. And the other person you speak of, I met with on my way to Chicago one day. If it was as big a deal as what you say, there never would've been a meeting. And I thought it was cool to have talked with someone personally from KS. Not what you're describing.
This is all my fault, but nothing that can't be resolved peacefully and intelligently. I admit, I can be a f#*khead. But I don't take well to name calling, so hence, it seems to never end. I don't know you well enough to say mean things about you, and it doesn't sit well with me. I apologize for my idiotic postings and whatever harm it causes others. It was never my intention to ruin anyone's day or month or year. But just assuming that I did, means that I must be of significance to someone around here.
I only post my subs the way I do now because I don't need the recognition, not because anyone has ever said it sucks. I would rather spend time listening to others than answering any comments I might have. I have always tried to give more than I receive, but nowadays, it hasn't been possible.
I just hope these issues I'm having with the speaking out in public here will go away. But maybe I need a little help? Not hostility?
I'm just gonna rest on that. I can't keep this up. Who would ever think that karaoke could turn someone into a raving lunatic?
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:56 pm |
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Perry your apology is accepted...but just to make something quite clear, I have no problem with what I said being brought in the open...I said nothing that I woldnt say to that persons face. So the veiled threat is no threat at all. Like I said to you at the time, I make a decision when I become friends with someone, to like them foibles and faults included. It is part of what makes them who they are. And I expect no less from my friends in return.
_________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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Nancyk
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:54 pm |
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Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:08 pm Posts: 8 Location: Idaho Been Liked: 0 time
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Perry, I appreciate your posting in support of my opinion, which actually was just an observation from a new member. Thanks for offering your 2 cents, as well, and I'm sorry to hear bad feelings from a member on in a site that should be pure fun. I know what you mean, I think it happens with all boards or sites where there are many people involved. Not all personalities or viewpoints are going to agree or get along and it seems that there are many different motivations and goals here, I mean, as to what people are wanting to get from and put into the showcase. And you and your posts and comments are important and significant to me.
I don't know how or why other people have taken their leave or been run off and I don't know if the 'so they say' insert was directed at anyone like me, who does check back in on things on occasion (and I know practically every move we make can be seen), but I didn't leave in a huff or slam the door. I simply realized, after a time, that this place is far busier than I expected, which is awesome, except that I can't keep up. The feedback for me wasn't about ego, although I'd be lying if I said the praises didn't make me all warm and fuzzy inside, I really do enjoy hearing others' thoughts, their random contribution of information to the song, its production, personal feelings, whatever, and then seeing where those opinions come from by visiting their profile, as well. But I lack the time to properly reciprocate and that is an issue here, so I accepted that. It's not that I didn't want to, I don't debate the idea of plain ol' fairness and good manners (but as I stated in my first post, everyone's life and everyone's contributions are different), however I just don't have room. I suppose anyone who wants to can call it running off, but I just saw it as more that I recognized that what I have to give compared to what I wanted meant that I didn't belong, and that's okay. As suggested, I guess I could just keep going and ignore any negative comments (I had not received any at the time I decided to step out, but I saw others), but I am sensitive and am no good with that. People can bash my singing and music all they want, I have proper skin for that, but to be chastised for being rude or not contributing enough, when all I do in 'real' life is work and give, I don't need another quota or responsibility on my plate, and I just want to have a little enjoyment with something extracurricular, well, let's just say, I don't *want* to just deal with it or shine it on. So I made my own choice to go somewhere else where movements are not scrutinized. Perhaps sometime later I will submit as L only, as Perry suggests.
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Andygurl
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:09 pm |
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NancyK, your movements are not scrutinized at other singing sites cause everything On the other singing sites is monitored... here at SS is where the big boys hang out... it's the biggest & best singing site in town & only the tough will endure. I have visited most every other singing site out there & found that if even a hint of negativety is expressed, then the monitors will step in pronto & either delete the negativety or give you a warning. I love coming to SS cause it's a challenge for me & makes me strive harder to do better. I feel that getting fluffed day in & day out cannot help you to do better... even if you sound like crap, their gonna tell you, you sounded good in fear of getting that warning or kicked off the site... what the heck kinda fun is that? I rather be told the truth rather than some fluff comment cause that just helps me in my endeavors in becoming a better singer.
Only the best of the best hang out at SS & I am proud to call it home
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