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You don't want old people or country people at your shows?
Wish I could afford to be choosy and exclude types of people!
I have several older regulars who come out and the younger crowd loves them and supports them fully. They definitely add to the show, not the other way around. Also, we have several younger people who are into country, and older people who are into rock, so being old is not necessarily a way to tell what someone is or isn't into.
And as for telling people to sing the song as it was recorded or don't sing it, I wonder how many hit songs would still be out there if they were told, "If you can't sing it in the key it was written, don't sing it"?



I think I'm missing something here. Care to explain?

60,000 tunes isn't impossible to get legitimately.. especially if you've got a bunch of dupes and you're buying discs from KJ's going out of biz or 'upgrading'.. plus eBay.. pawn shops.. lots of cheap ways to fatten up your catalog on the cheap.

I met a KJ just the other day.. older woman.. who said she's selling off her collection for $5 a disc. I asked her if she had any SoundChoice and she's like, "Yeah.. most of them are SoundChoice."

Needless to say i'll be going over to her house Monday to thumb through her collection.

As far as key change is concerned.. I honestly only ever get asked to change the key like once every month or so.. but when someone asks, i'm happy to do it. Not like it's difficult.

I have noticed that some songs sound better than others when changing keys. Songs with heavy piano don't sound very good when you drop 'em down a few steps.. it gets kind of warbley sounding.

I've not been asked to play a customers disc in months.

Mostly because the people who bring their own discs are the more serious karaoke singer.. and those people know where the more serious karaoke shows are at.. haha.. and they know my show is more for the drunken 20 somethings.

Huh, I find quite the opposite with the people that bring them in are in their 20-30's singings alot of rock/pop.


Hell even original artists lower keys in live performances - even some of the newer artists.

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Depends on how much they spent for discs and the quality. I have seen discs on the $1 shelf. I've had discs given to me (rare) to add to the books. But i'd say a minimum $50K for 5000 discs at $5 per.
I do know a gal that has over 100K songs (with dups) in one system, 70K+ is her 2nd system & like 10K in her 3 rd system, all with original discs per for each system. So it's not impossible, just not very common.

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No Oldies or Country Singers wanted? Well NO Oldies or Country for me would probably mean, I am looking for a new Gig. Oldies and Country are still #1 for me. Just saying!

That's Karaoke Baby!

I've had one request for key change, one request for playing a customer's cdg. Oddly enough both on the same night from two totally different customers who didn't know each other. After doing the key change for the singer, I suggested another song for her but she didn't think it was in her range. We changed the key up two spots and she hit it spot on and was very happy with my system.

I've used the key changer for myself maybe a couple times, not a popular feature but nice to have.

liquiddye if you tell your customers that, you should be ashamed of yourself!

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14 years. I cater my shows to the 21 to 30 drinking crowd. They don't want country or oldies.

I run some of the best shows in the city. My shows are fun.

Old boring country songs make the young people want to leave.

I do have a few diverse shows that are more traditional karaoke shows where anything is accepted. My main shows are my trypical if you don't like how I do things go somewhere else. I have made my living with this attitude.

Most "Karaoke" people won't like my shows. Other than the fact I have the best system in the city. I play tons of dance music and run games that make karaoke just a added fact to a fun bar night.

So the 31 to 70 crowd, you know, the ones with the money and time to make your shows "really" profitable, are left to go spend their time and considerable money, elsewhere.

Interesting business plan.

But, if it's working for you, I say more power to you.

I was referring to
johnny reverb's comment about the 3 aliases, not the rest of the post.

Liquiddye, I have no problem with how you run your show. The problem I see is that YOU represent yourself as a KARAOKE HOST, which in your own statements is misleading. Why don't you just advertise as a DJ, as on your logo, as it is QUITE OBVIOUS that you have NO CLUE of what a KARAOKE HOST is. You may be a SUCCESSFUL (DJ), but as a KARAOKE HOST, YOU'D NEVER MAKE IT!!!! It's people like you that give KARAOKE a bad rap. Because you lure them in thinking there going to a KARAOKE SHOW, and they wind up in just ANOTHER (DJ) show who is a KARAOKE HOST WANNABE!!!! If you're so good at being a DJ, why do you have to misrepresent what you're doing?..... Just food for thought.

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johnny reverb's comment about the 3 aliases, not the rest of the post.[/quote]

dye's attitude(in my opinion) is one in a million.....and I've noticed that attitude from two aliases on here, and I'd bet a dollar to a chocolate donut, the two are the same person. Odds now tell me.....dye makes three....

wait till you hit 50; then you will sing a different tune.

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Well unless he has to key change them, them he won't
If I was only to sing songs in my key, then i'd probably never sing. While many I can, there are many more that I need to drop or raise a key or 2. Again even professional entertainers lower keys quite often at their own concerts. Guess they shouldn't be singing according to that belief.

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I go to a lot of shows that don't (or won't) have the ability to change key, and end up singing a lot of rather slow or (in my opinion) boring songs when a quick -1 would open up a wealth of lively tunes for me. I use they key change all the time, life's too short to damage my voice straining for a note in my "chest" voice... and some songs sound a lot more exciting with ye ol' +2. I don't do it at karaoke, because the song is over done, but at cabaret I've even been known to "-5" My Way .

I still have a great night regardless of if a host changes the key or not... but if you give me the option to change the key I will go out of way to play around and entertain the crowd. Without the option, I will quite happily sing Eva Cassidy, Carpenters and Meatloaf all night long.

I understand the rationale that some songs sound wrong using a key change, but most people won't even notice a +/- 1 and personally I think Angels Robbie Williams and/or the Baseballs sound better +2. On a side note, I think a good singer straining to hit a note sounds far far worse than ever a poor backing track could.

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I think Liquidye runs his show the way it works for him and the fact that it's successful for his crowd is a testament. The older folks can go to a show down the street, can't they?

A lot fo kjs HERE have ONLY hosted at a FEW places or types of places (i've read here over the years) and really have NO experience with catering to a specific crowd if needed. You learn a lot from actual experience.

HIS show may require DJ MUSIC in addition to make his show more fun for the kids, yours may not. It IS a different kind of animal (show) to deal with.

Besdies, i happen to respect Liquiddye's technical information over the years and believe hs knows EXACTLY what he's doing. It's wise to learn to think outside your own little box and to grow, learn ,change, and GIVE the paying customers exactly what they want so they'll return.

Kudos to you Dye. I run a show very similar to yours for many years. I also have another that is mostly for the older mature singers. You change for what fits the crowds and keep them happy.

Is Rockin Bruce a newbie? Wonder what kind of show, if any, he runs...or just attends...

They do when you educate them. When I do a show, I listen to how the Singer sounds on stage... not just sound-wise. If I hear the Singer straining, I will (sometimes) alter the key mid-song (if I see a possible chance to do this when it doesn't disrupt the song). Sometimes, I will start the song over and change the key (while asking them if they feel better with it this way or the other). I will then tell the Singer what I did after they finish. Other times, I will tell that Singer, "I heard you straining a bit on that song. The next time you try that song, take it down (or up) a key (or 2)." That's how they know a key-changer even exists.

Yes.
That is also what works for me.

I'm happy to give a service other Karaoke hosts don't. If I can make my show more appealing then someone elses I'm all for it. Being able to allow people to make a key change to sing a song means a few things for the show. It gives more variety to the night because people are able to sing more songs, the songs are more enjoyable to listen to because people aren't straining out of their range and it keeps people coming back because I can provide something maybe another KJ can't.

I find many people expect to be able to make key changes. I get slips all the time that say down one or two written on them without asking me first if I can do it.

In my experience the more experienced singer knows their range and takes the time to know the song well enough to sing it to their best ability by singing it in a key they're comfortable. I'll take that kind of singer any day at any age.

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