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Chris any cook can prepare a good meal if they have the best ingredients to begin with. You know you can really cook when you can make a great meal, using and open fire and basic foodstuffs. The cook's ability to bring everything together is what makes it work. Just like the show has to be put together by the host, or the product just sits there. Have a nice day.

The 99% does not apply to patrons who bring in their own discs. What I was talking about was the patrons who really don't bring in music and most of the time don't bother to look in my books. Some are older and don't see so well and want me to look up songs for them. For some reason I don't always remember what a patron's name is but I do remember what they sing. Most of my shows are 50/50, the 99% refers mostly to patrons that leave the selection process up to the host. I feel looking up material for customers part of my host duties. That is why I support all PC hosts who don't play discs, their business decision brings more singers to my door. Have a nice day.

Great sound is required to attract the better singers. That is first. Great sound includes:
The system and mics that can provide the proper feedback to the singer and provide great reproduction to the audience.
Great music; the more it sounds like the original the better but that isn't required. I've actually started looking for off songs and doing my own thing. Remakes are a prime example.

Another thing needed is a good location, which usually isn't thought of much but it can be a factor. My old bar was off the beaten path and had a hard time attracting people outside of the neighborhood.

To KEEP great singers coming back; the atmosphere and host matter a great deal, but sometimes a crappy bar tender or night manager can drive off a good crowd in a hurry.

Well said Mr.Boo there are so many factors that go into making a first class show, the frustrating thing is sometimes things beyond the host's control effect the particular venue. It is a real drag when you do everything right and it still doesn't work. Have a nice day.

If comparing hit to miss ratio - yes they are consistant in good quality as compared to most other manus. As where a label like Music Maestro had more consistancy in their 'misses' than hits.

Right - "SOME" cases they weren't better at all, most they were.

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I want to, as in any job, want to work with the best tools that 'I' can use - this includes my sound system and selection.

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The problem with you is that you look down your nose on anyone who doesn't run the way you do, or with the same music as you do. You don't believe that different areas accept different music, and in many posts you act like you are God's gift to the Karaoke industry. What you do is good for YOU and YOUR area, and that is it. I have seen plenty of successful, long term shows done without the best of the best. You are really nothing special.

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Great! Never claimed I was. But better singers do tend to go to shows with better equipment & quality of selection, stereotypical karaoke singers tend to go to the shows that don't - making those shows successful as well with a completely different clientelle. Never once have a said a show cannot be successful without those tools. So don't ASSume!

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You should have said that this is just in regard to people at your show (who do not bring their own discs) in the first place.

Now, if you are removing (in general for all shows around the entire Country) any patrons who bring their own discs (or flash drives) to a show from the equation, then I would probably have to venture a guess that the figure might be closer to 85% - 90%.

That doesn't answer the question, and I think you know that. No one asked whether having music counts- that's a major part of karaoke. The question was whether you are a good host, or hope that any certain label will help you skate by even if lacking in hosting skills.

In other words, do you believe that the success of your show is dependant on your having a certain brand, or on your skills as a host? Would your show fail without a specific brand? Would it lose singers without a certain brand- or would your hosting skills be the reason why people come to your shows?

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Yes!

Would I lose the show because of it, probably not, but then i'm not the one paying the bills - i'd get those singers that don't care about quality or good soound (but cannot 'sing') that would come in. Whether the bar manager & owner could deal with consitantly bad singers - is another topic altogether.

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And there is where the second part of the clientele at a bar comes into play. Good singers bring in other people who just like to listen. We had some that got pretty spoiled and would even ask us not to let this person or that person sing as much. It's not how I ran that show so I would have to politely tell them i couldn't do that. If they smoked, I would tell them that would be a good time to take a smoke break on the patio.

Only karaoke singers can stand to sit and listen to a bunch of bad singers.

There is no single element, that leads to a successful karaoke show......

The problem with online forums is that unless you add an emoticon, it is sometimes difficult to determine whether someone is joking or being sarcastic or whatever......

I personally think the thread is silly (which was the reason for my jokey comment)-

1) The topic has been discussed many time before....
2) EVERY show comes down to the host. The hosts have their style, charm, wit, personality and flair, all of which help make a show. But it is also the choices a host make around the quality of gear, lighting, props, the brands and variety of music that help determine the quality of a show. Good hosts know how to compensate for shortcomings in any of those categories. REALLY good hosts invest time, money, energy if fixing those shortcomings.

In my specific situation, I believe that there is a particular brand of karaoke music that helps make my job easier because they consistently produced great karaoke tracks. I have less tweaking I need to do on a per singer basis. They also produced a lot of music during and for time periods that are staples for the karaoke industry.

If I had to speculate, I could probably pull that brand from my library and survive. It would create some grief for me in the short term as I learn to tweak the unfamiliar tracks but I would figure that out relatively quickly. I would take a short term hit while I get singers accustomed to other versions of the tracks. I would take a long term hit from people that actually want that brand over other brands who move on to other shows.

I could make it all work, but.....why would I want to make my job more difficult? Why would I want to intentionally limit myself or my singers?



-Chris

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-Chris

I think at least half the posts on here are silly.....but remember...."one man's silly....is another man's putty"(johnny reverb 12/18/2012)

I think the bad singers are often my favorite part of the experience.

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Wow, I want your autograph before you become really famous!

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Is that famous or infamous?

I better hurry up and attach my logo to it.......

Exactly! Well said Chris!


I think i'm just sick of witnessing kjs that never aspire to obtaining overall quality, or ones that have no desire to have and utilize the best tools.

They usually talk too dang much,make stupid jokes and hit on all the women...NOT professional...just slimy! And MOST of them drink too much on the job which affects the quality of the show.

These CHEAP quality- lacking djs/kjs usually have nutech or similar crappy-sounding midi music, cheap used old mixers from a pawn shop, and cruddy dried out speakers. and make you sing in a never-been-cleaned (or eq'd) mic. Their lack of quality gear, music, organization, and manners usually reflect the person/life they lead.= low quality.

TRUE professionals always ASPIRE to become better and offer better everything. Constant improvement and change, honing their skills and learning and using something from the night before.

Cheap djs/kjs will always be sub-pros and do not/ will not achieve any REAL long term overall success! they suck and i hate them, !

Okay.. getting off soapbox now