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It's all about priorities, Tim. You worry about people stealing from Mister Slep while other people are selling heroin on the streets and murdering people for money to buy drugs. I guess it's easier to go after people that don't shoot back at you, huh? Karaoke pirates are such easy targets; yet you can't even stop them from reproducing like rabbits. Job well done!

Got a person running Karafun and using YouTube if she doesn't have it in the streaming library. A lot of the content is digitrax but that's their fault for posting it.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

There are dishonest or crooked people in EVERY SINGLE WALK OF LIFE. What a person's morals may or not be has absolutely nothing to do with the kind of job they hold.


Are there things that are more tragic/important things than music/karaoke piracy? Absolutely, but that does not change the fact that a person who steals is a thief!

And yes, I would say there are people who have not stolen a single thing in their entire life, but no I am not one of them.

I used to think pretty much the same way that you did, until I became a karaoke host and found out what was going on.

-James

so you don't care if people cheat on their taxes and you don't care if people sell drugs and you don't care if people shop lift at the grocery store and you don't care if people are racists. You only care about people who steal music that makes it easier for them to compete against YOU? right? Well, in that regard; I'm all for karaoke pirates because it creates more venues for me to sing at. It positively impacts my social networking so it is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. How's that for logic? After all; it's all about ME.

Nobody cared when the Nazis came for the Jews. They only started to care when the Nazis came for them.

Time for someone to take their meds. Notice how police departments are organized, they go after both the big and small. I hear that old tripe all the time, "Why are you giving me a ticket when there are criminals out there". Well they deal with all manners of crime and infractions. Pull everyone off traffic, beat, and patrol duty and just use them for major crimes and see how quickly things go to hell in a hand basket. Believe it or not, one can be concerned about and do many things at once.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

Traffic law enforcement is just any easy way to raise money. Let's call it what it really is;a transportation tax. Speed traps are nothing but revenue producers for the municipality. They don't reduce the amount of accidents. They don't stop people from exceeding the speed limits. They only reduce the amount of money in a person's wallet. It keeps the bulk of the public at or near the speed limits but there are always people out there who are terrible drivers but they eventually get the license back. And most of them are still driving while their license is suspended. Plenty of people get pulled over for driving without a license. Ka-ching!

A person who cheats on thier taxes, is stealing, so they are a thief, a person who shop lifts is stealing, and therefore a theif. Stealing is wrong, it's just that simple.

I Do care about those things, I just have no control over the actions of other people. Now you can say that I can't prevent people from stealing music if they really want to either.. And you would be right. But that isn't my point. My point is that people who steal are doing something WRONG.


And for the record, I no longer am a host.. So I have no horse in this race anymore, but that hasn't changed my opinion - Stealing is wrong. Yes I used to justify exactly with the same arguements that you have used.. And I was wrong..

Bigatry is wrongtoo but that has nothing to do with my original point. Besides, I am not a bigot, I hate everyone equally

It is pointless to discuss piracy with Bruce. Like he said, he is all for it because it serves him. He will come up with any number of unrelated points (really? Jews and Nazi's?) to try to justify that piracy is okay and that no one should ever, under any circumstances try to do anything about it. So long as there is one hungry child on the planet, piracy should take a back seat.

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-Chris

You can TRY to stop it all you want. You are all failing miserably at it so you're just wasting your time. If it helps you to sleep at night; good for you all. I'm glad that you have more shows than you can handle, Chris. Why is it that most of the other certified hosts aren't having the same success then? They are still complaining about the pirates taking over in their areas?

If my auto mechanic buys his parts from a chop shop; it is not my job to check up on where he gets his parts. If the police catch him and put him out of business, so be it. How am I supposed to know if the contractor working on my house has gotten all of his tools in a legal manner? Why should I care if my local KJ is certified? It's none of my business. It's the same attitude that the Christians had about the Nazi's collecting Jews for the camps. It didn't affect them personally so they didn't care enough to try to stop it. I'll worry about karaoke piracy when it affects me in a negative way. If you can "suck-seed" against the pirates; why can't everyone else?

Why do I succeed?



Karaoke Piracy has already impacted you in a negative way. I am not going to explain why because you won't listen and will just toss up some offensive historical reference as a means of distracting people from the real issue.

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-Chris

Oh No! We wouldn't want to distract people from the REAL Mega Serious issue of Karaoke Piracy that is ruining the world. It's right up there with Global Warming and vanishing airplanes and Russia taking over Crimea. Current enough??? On a scale of one to ten; Karaoke Piracy is about 0.000000001 on most people's priority list.

But I'm glad that it's at the top of your priority list Chris. Keep up the great work.

Maybe you can start protesting the use of white rats in laboratory experiments next?

You are Borg, your efforts are futile.

yes.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

"If my auto mechanic buys his parts from a chop shop; it is not my job to check up on where he gets his parts."

But if those parts fail and cause an accident, I hope you won't sue your mechanic because "well everyone does it and it doesn't cause harm".

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You can be strange but not a stranger

I think the most relevant issue is that the legal authorities don't care about karaoke piracy. Try going down to your local police station and reporting that the host up the street is using pirated karaoke tracks, I'll probably be able to hear their burst of laughter from where i live. Also, the remaining active producers of karaoke content don't care enough to pursue it either. The only folks who care are the hosts that feel it creates an unlevel playing field for them and the two producers who have been forced out of the production business and into the lawsuit business.

I have said this more than once, until you make the penalty unbearable, piracy will continue. Take pirate's equipment, cars, houses, etc.and the word will get out pretty quickly. The strategy of making them buy your product when you catch them is not really a deterent, as we all can see. I moved from Raleigh, NC to Myrtle Beach, SC last fall. There are probably 3 times as many karaoke shows here because it's a popular entertainment option in a resort area. You'd be stunned at the number of KJs who advertise that they have more than 200,000 songs. Not my problem because they are not my direct competition but they continue to flourish here.

Let's also not forget that we are talking about someone who thinks someone swearing at karaoke is worse than someone who steals.

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Co-host of The Greatest Song Ever Sung (Poorly), a karaoke-themed podcast

Honest question: How are you any different from the guy who loots a store during a Hurricane/Flood/Power Outage?

You remind me of the people on the bridge cheering OJ Simpson as he slowly drove towards Mexico.

This is absolutely true. Remember, the people who are doing the most regarding piracy are the internet service providers whose bandwith gets slowed because of the people file-sharing large quantities of data.

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Co-host of The Greatest Song Ever Sung (Poorly), a karaoke-themed podcast

Like I said.....

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-Chris

The only way to put a huge dent in karaoke piracy is to educate on a wide scale. There are people that do not understand the damage that piracy causes. They probably know it isn't right but they put it along the same lines as doing 5-10 over the speed limit when it's really more along the lines of doing 20-25 over. I know I didn't think it was that big of a deal back in the Limewire days. I only downloaded a few songs but that still was wrong. Once they made the fuss over taking Limewire down I adjusted my thinking on it. There are probably a lot of people that are good people but they don't think there is any harm in what they are doing.