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SW, I hope you understand why everyone here seems to dislike you right now. Your condescending additudes towards a lot of things makes you unlikeable. If YOU ARE NOT this BIG DOG (BD) GUY, why don't you say so??? GIVE SOME ANSWER!!

BTW, Karen K DID NOT call you a karaoke-nazi! :no:  :no:  In a former post I mentioned the nazi-thing not directed to anyone in particular, and Karen mentioned she has "known" a few before and hoped we didn't have another one.
SHE DID NOT direct that to you personally or call you one. :no:  :no:

I personally like a lot of your posts. you have some good points-of-views and beliefs, but when you make everyone else wrong because they don't agree with you...well...here we are. I just don't get the whole bi-polar karaoke mentality thing.


..as far as kamuragirl is concerned..well...I'LL  just ignore her posts. until something intelligent comes out. They're a waste of time, just like mOST of mine! LMAO  LOL


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SW, I hope you understand why everyone here seems to dislike you right now.


Not everyone,  thanks !

I don't wish to be a part of lynchmob mentality.  Sidewinder has done nothing that *I* currently deem as unreasonable regarding my own interrelating with him/her etc.  I'm not ganging up on anyone, I'm not here to line up and stone others !  Got too much real life garbage to worry about besides who might be whom a year later in an Internet chatroom.

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personally like a lot of your posts. you have some good points-of-views and beliefs, but when you make everyone else wrong because they don't agree with you


Why is this an unforgiveable sin within discussion or debate forum among adults that DO NOT feel they are wrong ?   I don't agree with 100% of what sidewinder posts, but I don't agree with 100% of what most post.  I suppose I could be made to feel "wrong" regarding the "escaped tiger" thread, but if that's the worst thing that happens to me 2008, it's a DAMN good year !  I still enjoyed the thread.  Point being, there aint no good guy, there aint no bad guy, there's only you and me and we just disagree !

(Hmmm.... I think I'll write a song)

I was told recently regarding a different situation prior to Sidewinders joining here, where I believed I was correct to "ignore" stuff.   Being disagreed with doesn't bother me NEARLY as much as feeling "ganged up on".

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Steven Kaplan @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:49 am wrote:
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SW, I hope you understand why everyone here seems to dislike you right now.


Not everyone,  thanks !

I don't wish to be a part of lynchmob mentality.  Sidewinder has done nothing that *I* currently deem as unreasonable regarding my own interrelating with him/her etc.  I'm not ganging up on anyone, I'm not here to line up and stone others !  Got too much real life garbage to worry about besides who might be whom a year later in an Internet chatroom.

JMHO.


You're correct Steve. I should edit my post to reflect "SOME or MOST are not enjoying the condescending and arrogant words of sidewinder."

I know I LIKE being talked-down to like a dumb a$$! LMAO  .....you're welcome!


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I know I LIKE being talked-down to like a dumb a$$!


LMAO

It can be a humbling experience !  But for some reason since I already know I'm a dumbass, I just like joining in when this happens !  Usually I end up getting TOS violations too because when all is said and done,  Turns out I'm the one using several aliases calling myself the dumbass, and noone else has much of a chance to get a word in edgewise.  Guess my point is,  in most arguments and discussion at some point, the other side doesn't concede.  If I can accept this, I might eventually be able to survive in politics !

All I can try to do is make the best presentation I can.  If that doesn't work, I find a way to laugh an issue off !   It's not worth killing myself over those disagreeing in typed font on a monitor..  Yeah,  I forget this A LOT of the time !

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Steven Kaplan @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:30 am wrote:
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I know I LIKE being talked-down to like a dumb a$$!


LMAO

It can be a humbling experience !  But for some reason since I already know I'm a dumbass, I just like joining in when this happens !  Usually I end up getting TOS violations too because when all is said and done,  Turns out I'm the one using several aliases calling myself the dumbass, and noone else has much of a chance to get a word in edgewise.  Guess my point is,  in most arguments and discussion at some point, the other side doesn't concede.  If I can accept this, I might eventually be able to survive in politics


STEVE KAPLAN FOR PRESIDENT- is it too late to start your campaign? Put your clip-on tie and i'll meet ya for Super Tuesday in Florida..or is it Iowa??


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I think one week of that would kill me !


(HA !  Watch folks chip in for my campaign now)

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Steven Kaplan @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:10 am wrote:
I think one week of that would kill me !


(HA !  Watch folks chip in for my campaign now)

I'll pitch in $20.00 for singing lessons if a fund starts....


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jreynolds @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:42 am wrote:
SW, I hope you understand why everyone here seems to dislike you right now. Your condescending additudes towards a lot of things makes you unlikeable. If YOU ARE NOT this BIG DOG (BD) GUY, why don't you say so??? GIVE SOME ANSWER!!

BTW, Karen K DID NOT call you a karaoke-nazi! :no:  :no:  In a former post I mentioned the nazi-thing not directed to anyone in particular, and Karen mentioned she has "known" a few before and hoped we didn't have another one.
SHE DID NOT direct that to you personally or call you one. :no:  :no:

I personally like a lot of your posts. you have some good points-of-views and beliefs, but when you make everyone else wrong because they don't agree with you...well...here we are. I just don't get the whole bi-polar karaoke mentality thing.


..as far as kamuragirl is concerned..well...I'LL  just ignore her posts. until something intelligent comes out. They're a waste of time, just like mOST of mine! LMAO  LOL


Sorry some of you(I said some of you) all are so high and mighty. I'm just trying to learn from some of the best. Yep, saying that you have illegal ripped cdg's is sure stupidity. That's why the karaoke companys are going down hill and out of business plus due to alot of muliple systems under 1 kj (I can name a few), file sharing, etc. Those of you who have super shows, legally, congrats.


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kameragurl @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:27 pm wrote:
I'm just trying to learn from some of the best.


Then start learning & quit accusing!

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Yep, saying that you have illegal ripped cdg's is sure stupidity. That's why the karaoke companys are going down hill and out of business plus due to alot of muliple systems under 1 kj (I can name a few), file sharing, etc. Those of you who have super shows, legally, congrats.


Yes karaoke companies ARE going out of business from truly illegal companies due to multiple systems under one set of originals...will try to break this down so i'll type r e a l  s l o w  for you!
Multiriggers:  A manufacturer is not making money off of this type of users since they aren't getting the sale from the multiple sets of discs.
File sharing: the manufacturer is not getting their share since it is just being given away by the thousands-millions.
Trading libraries:  goes with file sharing - agree again the manus don't get their share.
Preloaded drives off of auction sites:  Again massive loss to the manufacturer.

Now you get to someone like myself who BUYS (again so you understand) PURCHASES each and EVERY disc PER system...no downloads, nothing on the computer that don't have a corredponding disc to match.  So I am supporting the industry by BUYING/PURCHASING discs.  Illegal yes according to current laws, hurting the manu in any WAY SHAPE OR FORM monetarily...absolutely NOT!  You are lumping my type in with the ones that don't buy anything & just get a cheap  laptop with the loaded external drive they got for pennies with someone like myself that buys literally thousands of dollars worth on music each & every year.  So if I come off "high & mighty" it's because I support the industry by BUYING my music!

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sidewinder @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:26 am wrote:
Answer that logically and i'll give you my address and phone number.


You can't even give the city (don't even care about your "actual location", but just the city), just like BD, he gave the same lame mentality reasons as well for not doing so.  Can't wait until you start bragging about your system!  Only a matter of time   LMAO

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I have run computer karaoke for over 7-8 years. First system was Win98SE 750 cpu and 256 ram. For a year or two I used Cavs PE player which was software that played cd's in the Plextor or mcg and mp3 files. The Cavs software with encoder decoder and player was $150.  I have used winamp, S&D and now use Roxbox. Back then people were arguing that playing cd's with software was illegal. And I suppose there are some here that would do also. I have listened to  the guesses and arguments and have spent days on google looking. It has not been proven to me that computer karaoke is illegal

I ripped cd's for years in fact I wore out 2 plextors in the process. Since then I have added a few  a month using THM etc. I have thousands of dollars invested in cd's I HAVE PAID MY DUES... I keep a library pruned to about 13k karaoke and 9k DJ. Nothing magic about these numbers At a certain point I said this rediculous.

When you have PAID YOUR DUES and can provide me with a web site that describes your system and shows everybody that you are real then we will talk. In the meantime get the hell out of my face.

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karyoker @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:51 pm wrote:
I have run computer karaoke for over 7-8 years. First system was Win98SE 750 cpu and 256 ram. For a year or two I used Cavs PE player which was software that played cd's in the Plextor or mcg and mp3 files. The Cavs software with encoder decoder and player was $150.  I have used winamp, S&D and now use Roxbox. Back then people were arguing that playing cd's with software was illegal. And I suppose there are some here that would do also. I have listened to  the guesses and arguments and have spent days on google looking. It has not been proven to me that computer karaoke is illegal

I ripped cd's for years in fact I wore out 2 plextors in the process. Since then I have added a few  a month using THM etc. I have thousands of dollars invested in cd's I HAVE PAID MY DUES... I keep a library pruned to about 13k karaoke and 9k DJ. Nothing magic about these numbers At a certain point I said this rediculous.

When you have PAID YOUR DUES and can provide me with a web site that describes your system and shows everybody that you are real then we will talk. In the meantime get the hell out of my face.


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No you're in everyones face that uses a computer whether they support the industry by purchasing all of their original discs or not supporting the industry by not paying a dime...it seems you can't distinguish between the two!  

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When somebody questions my integrity accuses me of lying stealing or insults my mother they are in my face. You youngsters dont know what honor is. I will forego my bloody knuckle stories.

I have a plan Next time you are driving by a housing construction site go into a house and find a carpenter and ask him if he bought his tools or did he steal them Then go over to the finish carpenter and tell him his laser guided saw is illegal.

Dont think its the same? You dishonor those honest hard working KJ'S  me included that pioneered and built this industry out of nothing. We are not newbies we are very experienced. I really dont know the motives but suspect kids tyring to find themselves or newbies trying to get a kick out pretending to be running with the big boys.

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I busted my rear for alot of years to get  the 1000's of dollars in equipment and cdg's which I still use. I'm sure you did the same. Why should I go ask a carpenter about the tools he uses? You know they don't speak English.


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I busted my rear for alot of years to get  the 1000's of dollars in equipment and cdg's which I still use. I'm sure you did the same. Why should I go ask a carpenter about the tools he uses? You know they don't speak English.


Hon I have spent 100's of thousand dollars in my professions. I do not like people questioning my Integrity or honesty or insinuating that I have broken laws or ignore honest business practices. I am from a rural and ranch background. I am not a corp or a  fly by nighter out to get you. If you will examine some of my later threads such as after pioneer you will know this. I am being very gentle now and show you the respect as a woman and a lady. Do not question my tool!! LMAO Or tools!! Lightennup..

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sidewinder @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:26 am wrote:
You and all here (who could be ASCAP/BMI or Sound Choice or the FEDS) are free to your opinions about anyone and everyone.  

I am not about to put myself or my bar owners in legal jeapardy.  I don't know why any "responsible KJ" would be bragging about being illegal on their web sites, all around the world.   Everyone has access to them including Sound Choice, ASCAP/BMI and the FEDS.  

Now how can any KJ think it's going to benefit them by advertising and publicly announcing their illegal activity and where to find them doing it?    Would the bar owner like that info broadcasted?  Better ask them first.

Answer that logically and i'll give you my address and phone number.

Everything is at risk by those actions.   Read the title of this thread.   I'm a little smarter than that.  I'm not flag waving my business to anyone (everyone) that could cost me my livelihood and ruin many bar owners at the same time.  Why, so i can brag about my music being on a computer?  Do you think that will get you more jobs??  No bar owner gives a rats A$$ about your music computer.    To me it's just plain stupid.   NOBODY CARES. :no:

When i get hired no bar owner ever asks how i play my music.   They wouldn't know if it was a disc, a computer or stick beating on a tin can. LMAO

Call the Feds, tell them you cheated on your taxes for the last 30 years, and want to be in jail for tax evasion.    Call the State Police and tell them where you'll be speeding on the way to work.   Call Sound Choice and tell them about you illegal computer show on friday.   Call the LCB and tell them about the underage drinkers and the poker machines and the after hour parties, and the bartender drinking behind the bar, and the football pools and the hookers and the bookies.    Kill everything about the business.   Take'm all down with you. :dancin:

WHY WOULD YOU BROADCAST IT???   Got a death wish?   I don't. :no:  I worked to hard to get to this point to be stupid about it now.    And that ends this discussion. :yes:


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Why should I go ask a carpenter about the tools he uses? You know they don't speak English.

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