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My friend and hosting compadre today bought a personal system (EMX512SC and a pair of S115Vs). It cost $1250 shipped, including stands and cables.

We were just talking today about a friend and wannabe host who bought an inferior system at a high price -- $2500 and he ended up with a bunch of Gem and VocoPro junk. My buddy's Yamaha-based system will absolutely obliterate both yours and his as far as sound goes.

But he had one big advantage when buying -- me. I can point him to what he needs without him having to pay someone to package it. If he has a question, he can ask me.

This place taught me what I know, as it teaches anyone who comes in here with an open mind. When the student is ready, we will appear.

So you might find plenty of people to buy your package. If it screws them less than our poor friend who ended up with crappy speakers, a single-tray CDG player and a "mixing amplifier", then maybe it is OK. Particularly if you provide some service. A lot of outfits like "Karaoke Candy Store" promise service but then disappear once they have your money.

But don't expect us to co-sign it. It is overpriced. You are selling the knowledge. You can sell it to people who don't know better, and it may even do right by them. But that doesn't mean you can sell it here.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

I had a setup like yours soundwise and I wasn't happy with the effects on it. I am much happier with my separate mixer and amplifier combination. In fact I had both types of systems, one for bar and one for mobile. The only time my bar sound system went outside of the bar is if I was doing an outside show. I would never consider using the mobile for bar use period. As to the way I choose to back up my setup, there isn't just one way to do it but my way means if both computers go down then I am out my library unless I'm willing to rip it all over again and I don't wish to be out of business again for even one month. My way, having it on an external and backed up on another external makes sure that I won't have to rerip the enite library again. I say again because before I decided to make it so I can do my own ripping, I allowed a friend to rip for me and while he ripped he destoyed my hard drive with a virus somehow. Luckily I had backed up my entire collectionon a different harddrive so I have been through the issue of a bad external and have been able to quickly replace it.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Well, you've all made your points and I've been proven wrong.
What I mean is that recently I finally got to go to the NAMM show where I met and enjoyed several evenings of comradery with some very influential people in the pro-audio business. I told them that one of my customers recommended that I join some karaoke forums and discuss my systems a little and that I thought it was a great idea. See I thought that when they bulked at the idea and downgraded the people that have nothing better to do than sit on these forums, that they were wrong. I told them that I would find people with similar experiences as mine running their businesses etc and that they would probably enjoy the ideas, like the 50+ faithful customers who bought systems from me in the past year.
At next years show I will admit I was wrong and they were right and take my lumps.
Lesson learned.......Good Luck To All, especially "the newbees" who need real help and think this is a place to get it. Godbless and goodbye.

50+ people with more money than sense.

$2600 for a system with no music and no PA? I like the portability and all but where does all that fancy sound go after it's setup? How do you rip CDGs to that big HD if there isn't an optical drive to do it with?

Great Ebay ad. The package is well done and if he's selling them I can't fault them. But why does every "expert" that comes around here have to act like an a55hole?

50 suckers

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Doesn't matter, even when I was mobile, I did not care for the sound of a little system. THis was my mobile system I used for several years. I don't have it anymore due to the fact that we were trying to start up a new business & used that as part of the capital. I am in the process of rebuilding it & Have over half of what I need at the moment, music is all I am lacking at this time to get this one running again, again not compact - don't want it & it can still be hooked up within 1/2 hour - including load in time.
http://lonmanproductions.com/beequipment.html
I don't look for good sound, I want sound people are going to feel they are at a dj club or live band! Can't do that with compact!

Channels, I run 4 wired mics, 1 wireless, 1 wireless headset (one of my hosts), I use 3 channels for effects returns, 2 channels for computer - karaoke soundcard, 2 channels for dj soundcard - for fill (no I do not like the way CH program does their fill), 2 channels for separate player for customer discs.

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Well since you have never seen me set up, you can't really say. I guarantee I can be unloaded & set up in 30 minutes or less. As far as sweating I sweat more hosting the show than I do with the set up. Everything in the rack is already connected. I plug the computer, players & mics into the mixer & I am set there. Set the speakers up, run the cords to the amp & am set there. Monitors & tv, same thing & I am done setting up - have a premade snake for the monitor send & video signal. Always make sure to leave the video cable I use for the bar tv's permanantly connected with video switches on the actual tv so just switch to channel 3 & flip over. Have never had a club have an issue with this yet.
So yes I meant what I said.

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Newbies that ask for help get it. THose who try pushing their overpriced product won't get much help & those that can help to avoid such a ripoff will help. For the price you are asking I can help someone setup a pretty nice portable system that WILL include 'legal' music.
So see ya

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I can't say much about the quality of Farout's audio equipment.... I will say that Sing A Song Karaoke (which is on the internet) is also a. local karaoke store and sells that small monitor. I, personally, don't like it.... but not for any rational reason.... and one of the more successful karaoke operations around here has been using it at one show I know of for the last 2-3 years! So, I doubt that there is REALLY anything wrong with it.

I do like the idea of a "quicker" in and out situation. As I got more involved with the business, I bought I tried more and more "stuff". Eventually, the sheer volume of "stuff" became a burden (in breaking down and setting up) which outweighed any benefit that I derived.

I have now had to both streamline what I take and to make adaptions to my rig in order to make my setup easier and quicker. Only after a LOT of thought and "creativity" I now take more with me in less area and set up quicker than before.

I don't doubt that some less savvy and/or talented people may appreciate the convenience Farout's system? He designed the system after trial and error, and the time and effort that he may save others by them not having to try to design something for themselves must be worth something?

The convenience of that system is great - not denying that, the price is rediculous.

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