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I have to agree with Mckyj57 on this one. Joe will never admit to downloading and ripping as legal. He will always be stuck in the "Disc-Based And Loving It!" attitude.

If digital downloads are not legal then why don't the people that are supposed to be protecting the Artists rights going after them. After all they should be easy enough to find with all the advertising they do on the web, even Phil lets them advertise here.

Sheesh!!! and get over it

Lone Wolf

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I think I'm gonna change your nickname to " The Twister", since you do it so well. I never claimed Tricerasoft ( thanks for the correction, I had HAVE been calling them Tyrannasoft- my bad- all those dinosaurs are confusing.. ) was PIRATING anything. I said that for awhile they distributed SC tracks- but to clarify, they were acting in good faith, with SC's permission. It's SC who who is operating on shady ground. What I DID say was that those SC downloads obtained through Tricerasoft weren't licensed.

I also added in a later post that they had done the right thing and stopped downloading SC.

For those who don't remember seeing my post, it's because it was on another forum.

Micky went off there too, and I clarified there as well....sigh.....ah, well...

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" Disc based and loving it..."

I think I'm gonna change your nickname to " The Twister", since you do it so well. I never claimed Tricerasoft ( thanks for the correction, I had HAVE been calling them Tyrannasoft- my bad- all those dinosaurs are confusing.. ) was PIRATING anything. I said that for awhile they distributed SC tracks- but to clarify, they were acting in good faith, with SC's permission. It's SC who who is operating on shady ground. What I DID say was that those SC downloads obtained through Tricerasoft weren't licensed for digital download in the U.S. ( and again, NO ONE IS)

I also added in a later post that they had done the right thing and stopped downloading SC.

For those who don't remember seeing my post, it's because it was on another forum.

Micky went off there too, and I clarified there as well....sigh.....ah, well...

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Based on what? Hearsay? I know of no SoundChoice tracks ever available in MP3+G format on any legitimate site. Tricerasoft has never had them available.


What? Sound Choice has never to my knowledge allowed MP3+G download. They have allowed custom disc creation, or downloading of music-only backing tracks.


No one is for what? What source are you using for your contention? The Bible?


They have never done the wrong thing, and you continue to slander them by claiming they did.


You didn't clarify. You made more stuff up.

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Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

not a single download I purchased was from SC.

They were legally manufactured songs... most of them SBI.

They're legal over there. The laws under which they were made over there made them legal to buy. Otherwise there would be a huge FBI fallout over purchasing these illegal tracks across country borders. They can monitor the internet traffic just fine, scanning for codewords... and I've personally seen the work that's done on my company's servers scanning for all types of potential problems. Every month we have new patches on the servers that are Bank directed, and many of those are to be in compliance with governmental regulations.

Um, how is a simple question like that abrupt? And how was it unfriendly??

Enter the dragon...? Ah, fair Enchantress, still your fears, thy knight offers his sword for your safety....

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

...and you would be incorrect. If you have read my posts you may noticed my CONSTANT advisory to rip your discs! As far as I know, this is LEGAL- the same as making back-ups for single site use.

I have said that this is a gray area. That means that ripping has NOT been defined as illegal. If not illegal, than I assume legality.

My statements are ONLY directed toward digital DOWNLOADS.

Again, if you READ my posts, you would learn that the companies are OUT OF U.S. JURISDICTION - The artist orgs. CAN'T GET TO THEM.

They can, however, get to the Karaoke Host, who IS within their reach.

You really have to visit other forums. This is the only one where this is really still being debated....

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

...and as stated on the other forum, Twister the Dragon, I have 2 host friends who have downloaded SC from "dinosaursoft"- with receipts. Get a grip.

As you have stated above, "Tricerasoft has never TO MY KNOWLEDGE...."
Ya learn something new every day, with luck.

One more repetitive redundancy....wait, let me turn it up for ya....CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? GOOD!.......I never claimed Tricerasoft did anything wrong. As previously stated several times and ignored ( maybe brialle posting would help ), THEY were acting in good faith, it was SC who were the slicksters....


Until and unless a company offers a license download with each track, you can be sure of the lack of license.

I have a better idea for you Micky- YOU prove that they do! Then everyone will know! That's it- real easy.


Enchantress, can you devise a magic heat shield for my armour? Toasty in here...

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

So you say they say. Hearsay.


You have no knowledge. Show some evidence.


What was Sound Choice doing, pray tell? Are you going to slander them too?


What kind of baloney is that? Are you claiming you can't sell digital downloads because you must have a printed license? Or are you saying DRM is legally required even if the licensor chooses not to use it? Are you claiming that Amazon selling non-DRM music is illegal? What the heck are you claiming?

You just talk stuff without any knowledge or sources to back it up.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

How come I didn't get a program for this cage match?

Yup, the tracks from the UK are legal there. However, I would be leery about the use of tracks by U.S. artists HERE. Just because a UK site is accessible, doesn't make for licensed usage here.

BTW- since everyone knows I'm a disc guy, I don't want to give the impression that this is a disc/digital thing. There are a BUNCH of unlicensed discs bought in good faith being used by us. Yes, I said us- I'm not claiming angelic status. Virtually every disc collection of any size includes some. NONE of the SGB ot Top Tunes were licensed, many of the SC aren't ( with the result that many discs were pulled from the market before SC went overseas), The original KJ Tools set, and many others. How many of us have at least some of these discs, or others like them? I'd say MOST.

I fugure I would throw that into the mix so the PC guys don't feel I'm persecuting them...

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Micky, what I'm saying is that a negative can't be proven, but a positive can. Feel free to post any evidence at all that a mfr. with a U.S. based download sight has any licensing agreement with any U.S. based artists, or their representatives.

There won't be documentation that there isn't, but if there IS an agreement, it will be out there. I find none.

Just so you don't think I'm picking on you, I issue the same request to anyone on this forum, since this is the only place left where I find this still in debate. There are a LOT of members here. SOMEONE should be able to find a U.S. based licensing agreement if there is one, right?

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

You use the fact that you can't find a license as your basis for slandering companies and accusing them of wrongdoing? Unbelievable.

Sounds to me like you just like disks, just like your last series of posts. You are ready to denigrate computer users at every opportunity, accusing them of breaking the law and accusing companies of flouting the law.

To add to the ridiculous nature of your misinformation, you talk about the "artists". The artists have nothing to do with anything. The songwriters certainly may. ASCAP and BMI are constantly and explicitly licensing karaoke shows. They have every opportunity to take issue with computer-based karaoke hosts as well as computer-based DJs. Certainly there are zillions of DJs operating off of iTunes and other legal downloads.

In short, it is completely ridiculous for you to be claiming others are not following the law. It is civil law, to begin with, and ASCAP and BMI are implicitly allowing this by licensing the use of music.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

Hey, let's not get confused between the Micky's

that could never happen dahlin...you have never talked down to or boasted bout anything in your life

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look at my video i posted on youtube for burning karaoke cd's


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFz58aljVo

good for you tj, and welcome to the forum

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Just wondering ....? I post about the fact that there are plenty of unlicensed discs out there, for the sole purpose of including disc based shows , and explain that it's not digi vs CD, you include it the quote, and then speak of how I just like discs? Wow. I also have discs made by SC. You're kind of a whacky guy

I base my statements on the fact that there is no licensing. You, as well as anyone here are welcome to show me that my info is incorrect. Visit any U.S. based mfr. website and find some licensing documentation- should be real easy. If you can't, then tell me- what are YOU basing your statements on? Air?

Speaking of misinformation: ASCAP & BMI do NOT explicitly license karaoke shows. They license the VENUE for use of music- period. You, I, and other hosts do not require and are not issued licenses.

Civil law? OJ WON his case in that he was found not guilty of murder. CIVIL LAW is what took him down.

One other thing: Yup, I prefer using discs. However, I truly don't give a fat rat's butt what others do. It's not like I'm a crusader. Ya get it? I enjoy debating, but in the end, I just don't care.

One other thing: Slander refers to the spoken word, Libel the written.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."