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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:14 pm 
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Yes, I did misunderstand. Thanks for the clarification. These SD cards really seem like a good idea.


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masterblaster @ Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:14 pm wrote:
Yes, I did misunderstand. Thanks for the clarification. These SD cards really seem like a good idea.


We certainly hope so. More and more players are being made without optical drives of any kind. While we don't want to put all our eggs in one basket with the player manufacturers, we do recognize the need to satisfy that market demand.

We hope to have an official press release by mid-morning tomorrow regarding the cards.


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Chartbuster Karaoke @ Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:14 am wrote:
masterblaster @ Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:34 am wrote:
Is the SD card not a "physical product"? How is it different than a CDG? Especially if it's not zipped.


I think you mistook my emphasis as an exception rather than an inclusion. The SD card is indeed a "physical" product, distinct from a digital download.


Are you saying that you can NOT use your digital downloads at a show?
I thought that as long as it was played from the HD that it was originally downloaded to it was ok.

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Lone Wolf @ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:14 am wrote:

Are you saying that you can NOT use your digital downloads at a show?
I thought that as long as it was played from the HD that it was originally downloaded to it was ok.


Not at all, and it's fine. Those downloads are registered directly to you and you alone, so there's no question of ownership.


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Chartbuster Karaoke @ Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:33 pm wrote:
Lone Wolf @ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:14 am wrote:

Are you saying that you can NOT use your digital downloads at a show?
I thought that as long as it was played from the HD that it was originally downloaded to it was ok.


Not at all, and it's fine. Those downloads are registered directly to you and you alone, so there's no question of ownership.

Question - I can only download at home, no internet reliable enough at the show. With this question Lone Wolf brought up about having to be on the computer it was downloaded on only? Or would I be able to download & transfer the file to my show computer?

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Lonman @ Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:10 pm wrote:
Chartbuster Karaoke @ Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:33 pm wrote:
Lone Wolf @ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:14 am wrote:

Are you saying that you can NOT use your digital downloads at a show?
I thought that as long as it was played from the HD that it was originally downloaded to it was ok.


Not at all, and it's fine. Those downloads are registered directly to you and you alone, so there's no question of ownership.

Question - I can only download at home, no internet reliable enough at the show. With this question Lone Wolf brought up about having to be on the computer it was downloaded on only? Or would I be able to download & transfer the file to my show computer?


There's no question of who owns that digital download, and you're allowed a backup.

But I'm curious: if you wanted, why couldn't you bring the show computer home for downloading?


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1: it is probably a fixed installation if I remember correctly.

2. Only A FOOL would put their show computer online. Virus' and the like.

Better to use an outside computer, virus scan, which hampers some karaoke players when installed on show computers, and copy over to show computer. there is software out there that will move the file to another folder deleting the original over. I expect to be using that when I load my GEM series onto my external drive.

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Thanks Debi for your reply. These last few questions were what has keep me from downloading more of your songs that I need to fill gaps in my collection.

I'm going to take it that if audited that you will have the proof needed to show that I (or whomever) downloaded that song from you? Or do we need some kind of documentation? As there would not be any hard disc to show Y'All.

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Chartbuster Karaoke @ Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:49 am wrote:
Lonman @ Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:10 pm wrote:
Chartbuster Karaoke @ Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:33 pm wrote:
Lone Wolf @ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:14 am wrote:

Are you saying that you can NOT use your digital downloads at a show?
I thought that as long as it was played from the HD that it was originally downloaded to it was ok.


Not at all, and it's fine. Those downloads are registered directly to you and you alone, so there's no question of ownership.

Question - I can only download at home, no internet reliable enough at the show. With this question Lone Wolf brought up about having to be on the computer it was downloaded on only? Or would I be able to download & transfer the file to my show computer?


There's no question of who owns that digital download, and you're allowed a backup.

But I'm curious: if you wanted, why couldn't you bring the show computer home for downloading?

I have it built into a cabinet since it's at the club 7 nights - the entire system is always set up. Kind of a security issue. I have to actually dismantle the cabinet to be able to remove the tower. I pull it out every 5-7 months for maintenence/updates/whatnot.

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Lonman @ Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:50 am wrote:
Chartbuster Karaoke @ Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:49 am wrote:
But I'm curious: if you wanted, why couldn't you bring the show computer home for downloading?

I have it built into a cabinet since it's at the club 7 nights - the entire system is always set up. Kind of a security issue. I have to actually dismantle the cabinet to be able to remove the tower. I pull it out every 5-7 months for maintenence/updates/whatnot.


That's major league. Can you pull just the HDD?

BTW, I'm not advocating doing anything that would violate any KJ's own security policies. There are easy solutions to prevent an infection on a show computer for the purposes of downloading content directly from us, though, both software/hardware and best practices.

I personally have lived a computer-centric life for almost twenty years (since 1991), and have never been infected with a virus, trojan, rootkit, etc.

Practice safe hex.


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Chartbuster Karaoke @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:02 pm wrote:
I personally have lived a computer-centric life for almost twenty years (since 1991), and have never been infected with a virus, trojan, rootkit, etc.

Practice safe hex.


Try connecting it to the internet then.


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jerry12x @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:21 am wrote:
Chartbuster Karaoke @ Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:02 pm wrote:
I personally have lived a computer-centric life for almost twenty years (since 1991), and have never been infected with a virus, trojan, rootkit, etc.

Practice safe hex.


Try connecting it to the internet then.


I was network connected well before the internet went public. Little thing we used to have called bulletin board systems were active back in the day, where I was a SysOp of a BBS, a network coordinator for FidoNet, and much more.

It's not a matter of connectivity, it's a matter of being informed and cautious. In my former life as a journalist and newspaper publisher, I often went where angels fear to tread on the web.


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Yes. So it seems.
Go on. I dare you.

Try GOOGLE.


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jerry12x @ Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:21 pm wrote:
Yes. So it seems.
Go on. I dare you.

Try GOOGLE.


Ok, I'll bite. If you are just connecting to the Internet simply to update your software, or library, why would you "TRY GOOGLE?". I agree with Mr. Grimes, it's NOT the Internet that's the cause of potential viruses, it's WHAT people do on the Internet that expose them, such as visiting malicious websites, opening malicious emails etc. If you're not already infected, just connecting to the net and performing a simple program or library update will have virtually NO possibility of an infection. For those that disagree, please post a verifiable example with your comments, PLEASE!

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tbreen @ Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:16 pm wrote:
it's NOT the Internet that's the cause of potential viruses, it's WHAT people do on the Internet that expose them

For those that disagree, please post a verifiable example with your comments, PLEASE!

tbreen


Ok, I will bite back.
Virus removal is part of my day job.
I go looking for them.
Sometimes I can't get rid of them and have to re image my system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_worm

An extract from this page.

there have been attempts to create useful worms. The Nachi family of worms, for example, tried to download and install patches from Microsoft's website to fix vulnerabilities in the host system–by exploiting those same vulnerabilities. In practice, although this may have made these systems more secure, it generated considerable network traffic, rebooted the machine in the course of patching it, and did its work without the consent of the computer's owner or user.

Believe me. There are more bad worms than good ones.


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jerry12x @ Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:03 am wrote:
tbreen @ Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:16 pm wrote:
it's NOT the Internet that's the cause of potential viruses, it's WHAT people do on the Internet that expose them

For those that disagree, please post a verifiable example with your comments, PLEASE!

tbreen


Ok, I will bite back.
Virus removal is part of my day job.
I go looking for them.
Sometimes I can't get rid of them and have to re image my system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_worm

An extract from this page.

there have been attempts to create useful worms. The Nachi family of worms, for example, tried to download and install patches from Microsoft's website to fix vulnerabilities in the host system–by exploiting those same vulnerabilities. In practice, although this may have made these systems more secure, it generated considerable network traffic, rebooted the machine in the course of patching it, and did its work without the consent of the computer's owner or user.

Believe me. There are more bad worms than good ones.


I am quite familiar with worms! However, although they may not, and typically do not cause malicious behavior on the host system, they still MUST exist on the host system. How did they get there? Simple, through browsing to malicious sites, installing and running malicious software, opening malicious email etc. Again, it is NOT simply connecting to the Internet that exposes malicious threats! They are exposed through a past event as already described.

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Ok. I wont argue.


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