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Ab-so-lut-ly.

One time....at band camp....I strained so hard to hit a low note....I sh!t me britches
.........the next time I made sure I dropped the song down 2 steps.....
try singing as low as you can go, and feel how your pooper muscle has to relax, while when going for the high notes, it tightens up..... be careful though, and this is one to definetly "do try at home"......

Can't bloody stop laughing.

Now Stop it.

Scary when reverb starts anything out with 'One time at band camp...." I expected the saxophone line...but glad it wasn't.

Is that what that smell was.

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No misrepresentation. We offer karaoke. It's quite obvious karaoke nights are different here than your location which is completely fine. If I were to advertise as a DJ night how would people know they can come sing?

I have also stated many times I have run more traditional karaoke shows for years with great success.

A karaoke host is anyone that offers karaoke. I didn't know a karaoke night had to be 100% karaoke. We are business people, sound people, and entertainers.

Our Karaoke is a night of fun and entertainment. There is music, games, and singing.

My shows are very profitable. I don't know too many people out there making $100 to $150 an hour anymore. Most people make $150 to $200 for the entire evening.

I have shown my clients waht I can provide and they have no proplem paying what I feel I'm worth. In the last year I stopped treating this like a job and running it like a business.

I'm working in loactions that will have $2000 to $5000 in sales in 3 to 4 hours.

Slower weeknight we still will have $1500 to $2500 in sales. If I wasn't there the bar might do $800 at best for the night.

The average 21 to 30 year old will drink 5 mixed drinks and at least 2 shots in a 4 hour period.

Actual numbers from one of my loactions: Average check on karaoke nights is $28. Average check on non-karaoke nights is $17

Young people drink and not just draft beer, they will buy rounds of shots that can total $50+ On average we have 4 to 10 tabs that are $100+

Every Show is different. I'm glad someone else can see a different point of view.

I'm not against any type of show, I have simply stated what has worked best and what I prefer. Things do change and one must be able to adapt on the fly. I can entertain anyone.

I can take on and host any type of event, bar, and or location. As long as it's profitable I will do it.

I have hosted daytime karaoke in retirement homes, Country Karaoke nights with a mechanical bull, oldies nights at casinos, and many other events to even name.

I find people generally like or hate karaoke. I have done my best to make evenings where all guest that come in the bar can have fun.

Good for you.

Still think no key change is cruel.
Hope your patrons are non the wiser.

Lyquiddye-

You weigh out what you need in your show to make it successful. It sounds like you fill your show with other things like DJ music, games etc... This type of crowd may not be concerned with key change and I respect that.

I have to concentrate on mainly singers. You have to concentrate on entertainment as a whole. Totally different kind of show.

I'm sure if having the ability to do a key change for singers gave you a larger crowd you'd do it because you've learned to adapt to make yourself successful.

If I'm going out for karaoke only, to a karaoke show I'm going to for the first time, I usually only do songs that don't need a key change because I usually can't even tell what version song they have. But if I was making a karaoke spot my regular hang out I'd want to be able to do key changes and know what version I was singing.

If I'm going out just to have fun none of the above matters, so I can see the difference in crowds for both of us.

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Old Chinese proverb.......one who smelt it......dealt it.....

I do have the ability to changes keys. I just don't like how it makes a song sound.

Over 14 years I have sang probably over 1000 songs, never once did I ever need to change the key.

I don't understand why someone would want to sing a song that 1. They can't properly sing. 2. Not in the key the artist intended

I guess it's a regional thing here if you're going to belt out Your Love or Photograph you better be able to handle it in the key it was written.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe all karaoke tracks are recorded in the original keys.

Some songs even the artists themselves lower the keys on when they sing live. I don't think it takes away from the likability of song to change keys.

I respect your opinion on not liking to change keys yourself, but don't understand why you wouldn't change keys for a singer if you have the capability. Maybe I just misunderstood. I'm not trying to be a butthead.

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Well, here's the rub.

Singing a song "properly" has absolutely nothing to do with the key that it is sung in.

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The key the artist intended has nothing to do with singing a song proper, unless what you’re asking for is a note for note reproduction of the song; something akin to a tribute artist?

In any case, a singer will change the key over time for a variety of reasons; Sinatra, Humperdink, Robert Plant, they’ve all re keyed their songs in response to a number of issues and changes;

Years of smoking, drinking and drugs, the aging process of the voice box and health issues including; polyps and nodules (very common among pro singers) laryngitis, laryngeal atypia and early cancer, reflux laryngitis, Reinke's edema, recurrent respiratory papillomatosis, spasmodic dysphonia, vocal fold granuloma, vocal fold paresis/paralysis, vocal fold scarring, vocal fold lesions, etc.

Karaoke hosts change the key because "our" singers deserve a fun experience based on "their talent level and needs" not based on the hosts "perceived" talent level, or some unobtainable talent level imposed by the host.

Your ignorance is showing.

http://www.vocalist.org.uk/vocal_range_key.html

I think that is the key. Most of the audience won't care or even know that the key has been changed on many songs. Key changes might only happen once or twice a night , if that, and it's only for a few minutes.

Unless you are like me, use the key change control, and then forget to reset it to normal until a few songs have gone by. Oops!

Having done this a couple of times, I realized that it is indeed easy not to notice it when distracted by everything going on during a busy night; and many singers adapt to the key change without even realizing it.

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I've done this too, both on the PC and with the CD-G player. Normally it's at the start of the gig.... Been caught once or twice.

Once I left the player down 3 full steps, at a contest... ouch! She didn't notice, blasted the tune and she won the contest. I never told her, I wasn't sure it would have mattered?

Interesting that in her case, it didn't matter anyway!?!

With me, if it ain't in my key, I ain't singing it.

Which players or software doesn't reset the key after song is played or stopped?

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Been awhile since I've been in here with the move, etc, but saw this topic go off into the singers bringing their own disc and had to share a chuckle... was talking to my replacement at the old place yesterday and she told me that the owner had taken over Karaoke since I left, he has a cd-g player hooked up to the jukebox external speakers and Host "Bring Your Own Karaoke". He has 4 of his own disc and tells everyone to Bring what You Want to Sing............... But they can use the $6.00, bought at WallyWorld, First Act mic I left there. Peace, S.

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The player I use for discs is an old RSQ MV-333 Triple tray. It doesn't reset after changing keys. I have to admit it, I've made the mistake of not resetting it after a singer. I don't use it much, so it's easy to forget.

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