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You B*tch, you sl*t, you wh*re...??????????  Sorry folks. Must be a regional thing.  Until I read this I didn't know what you were talking about.

I have never heard it with any of those songs.

Oh well.  Live and learn.

Kelly

I have a few friends who are members of this sight and can back me up on what I'm saying because they have been to my show. On any given night you can find all age groups in my bar singing all genres. I choose not to sensor my books. That is my personal choice and don't judge people who do. It has not been a problem for me, so I don't see the need. The 20 year olds who come into the bar are generally very respectful nice kids. My average age for the bar used to be in the 40s range, but in the last year or so it has changed to a mix of all ages.

This works for me not to sensor - This does not mean I think it will work for every karaoke host. It depends on your area and situation. I am 41 years old and like all kinds of music.

BD - watch the soy beans

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I am a respectable karaoke host. I do have mostly talented singers. I have not sensored my books and have managed over the past few years to bring in a nicer crowd. I think the type of karaoke host is a bigger factor than the songs themselves.

There is one thing I know for sure - my show is fun. No geriatric hitler karaoke in my bar.

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Here we go again.  Where did I insult anyone?   No soy beans.

You wanted to know how I run my show with an edited book and that is my response.

All I said was I want a nice mix of age groups that are not screaming and swearing all night long.   I don't want to create an environment that is conducive to people getting too wild and to the point of trouble making or fighting.     I take care of that with a censored book and what I allow to take place.     I create most of the mood.    I do not want people to feel uncomfortable or insulted by certain subject matter that really doesn't help the situation and is totally unnecessary.   I'm not saying that there is never a swear word heard at any of my shows but it's not something I want every Tom, Dick and Harry thinking they can do all night or that this is the way the entire night is going to be.   Nobody is looking over their shoulder all night waiting to see what's going to happen and which way to run.   The idea is to get as many quality people as possible to come week after week.  If someone is offended once they will not be back.     They will talk bad about you.    The word will spread fast.   I am not there to entertain a bunch of jerks.   First of all I won't attract them and if that's what the bar owner wants, he can get himself a new boy.

I play for mature audiences and it doesn't mean they are old (21) enough to hear swearing all night.  It means they act mature and want everyone else to act appropriately.   Not one of my singers has ever come up and said can we swear all night, it's so much fun.     Or boy I sure miss the guy that swears all night.      What a bummer, I really wanted to hear his crap all night, it's the only reason we came.

I can show you a hundred screaming drunk karaoke shows.    And that is as good as they get all night.   That is not my goal.    I have never in 14 years had a show that was more than 5% unruly, at any time.     And it didn't last long.    I run a family show without all of the unnecessary Bull Crap.    Occasionally I get a screamer.   But once they see how the rest of the crowd is acting they either straighten up or decide not to come back.   Either one is fine with me.    These are not my idea of fun or a way to make a living.      It's real nice to go home every night without a headache.      Nobody comes up and says they were offended or upset about anything that went on.     All of my bar owners appreciate the fact that I have edited my book to keep things from getting to far out.      No bar or KJ can afford to have a reputation like 90% of my competition has.    I can take you from one crap show to another and we will never run out of them.   It will be much harder to find the quality shows.

People ask me for certain songs and I simply tell them I don't have it.   There are 9,500 to pick from.     If they ask me to get a song, it depends on the lyrics and what type of music it is.   It's my money that pays for every song.  So it will be my judgement that picks each one.      You can bring all the discs you want, but if they are too objectionable for my taste and what I feel is right for the majority of the paying customers and in the best money making interest of the bar, you won't sing any of them.      Not being a jerk just being practical.   Nobody is going to have an adverse effect on my income or the bars or my reputation or the bars, but me.  And that hasn't happened yet.   If a song is good enough to be on the radio and most jukeboxes in an edited form then that's good enough for me.   Those are my values.    It's the respect I give to myself, my bar owners and my following.

You and everyone else is free to do as you wish.  It's your income and reputation.     I'm telling you how I protect mine.     I have heard many people complaining about how other KJs run their shows and what they allow to go on.   It's not good publicity, it's bad.   Sure some punk a** might be mad about my edited selection, so what.    Put up $50,000 and do it your way.     It will determine where you play and how much money you make and how long you can stay above water.  The only people that want to hear swearing all night and won't care or object, are the younger ones.     If you want to swear all night call mom and swear at her till she hangs up on you.   Nobody wants to hear anyone act like an immature jerk.

If every person in the world acted like their mother was sitting beside them their whole life, this would be a wonderful world.   No murder, no rape, no robbery, no war, no drunks screaming swear words all night at karaoke to prove their manhood.   Because your mother would slap the living S**t out of you for even thinking about it.

One question.      Do you think over all, that allowing people to swear/sing swearing type songs, all night is good for your/the bars business or bad?

so here is where we all bow nicely and agree to differ in the way we run our shows and then no-one has egg on their face
surely there is no right or wrong way? I sing Livin next door to Alice. Its not me that injects the who the F**k its the crowd and ya know what its generally the over 40s
as to Mony Mony hell we were singing the hey mf etc back to the band when I was 15 and sneaking into bars.

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I Agree with you.  We have REGULAR singers ranging in age from 21-79. You name the genre, it gets sung at our show (BROADWAY, COUNTRY, OLDIES AND CURRENT.)  30's - today's tunes.  And yes, as I stated, if someone starts to scream (whether it be swearing or just unnecesary screaming).... they lose the microphone.  That's the job of a GOOD KJ; maintaining control over the room and the show WHILE allowing people to sing THEIR favorites!  And the thing that seems to be ignored in all the posts is that NONE of us have SO many that want  to sing the "offensive" songs, that we CANT control them or HANDLE it.  

As for longevity, This is our 15th yr. providing karaoke, as well as other music services and we have an EXCELLENT reputation, WITHOUT censoring our nightclub gigs.  And.... that is because we have EXCELLENT control over the room; a group of  REGULAR (@ 25-40) and fiercly loyal (mostly very talented) singers each night.  Our singers made up the phrase; you can sing karaoke wherever you want, but Singing with Sassy is Classy.  


If you censor ..... that is your CHOICE ... and it apparently works for you, because you TOO say you have an good reputation.  But.... censoring is most likely NOT why you have a good reputation, Big Dog ...... its more likely the good reputation comes from HOW you do your job ...... NOT what you allow to be SUNG.  

I mean.... Babs, DBK, Lonman and Morgan ......as well as many others who have posted .... are OBVIOUSLY knowledgable and RESPECTED KJ's too ........ and they don't censor.  They have chosen to use crowd control and good KJ common sense to maintain the control and "fun" of their rooms.  

Perhaps you are placing too much concern on WHAT is being sung ... rather than looking at HOW to manage the variety of music that will WANT to be sung?

And perhaps you didn't MEAN to imply that our shows, unlike yours, are for the screaming singers with little talent ... and that we are KJ's that have no control and no respect, and poor reputations ... but your posts DID.

If you don't want to have to start a post with .... HERE WE GO AGAIN .... just re-read what you've written before you hit submit.  Much of what you have to say is very good .... but  the tone of your posts is so offensive to many ... that it is often not appreciated.  

I am now going to have a cup of coffee ...... and get ready to christmas shop.  Anyone care to join me?  

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oops CC I am not a kj

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Oh well..... you always have good stuff to say .... so what the heck!!  

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My last thoughts on this because I am starting to feel like a dog chasing his tail....

bd, you are making a dangerous assumption. You assume because I have those songs, and I have people sing them, that it is all they sing. That is where you are wrong. I have 50 cent, Eminem, Ice T, etc., but ask how often they are sung. MAYBE once or twice a year. As a matter of fact, I think besides Rappers Delight or the Beastie Boys, it never gets requested- but I have it.

A larger songbook does nothing more than make bar owners and patrons more comfortable. Sure, 90% of those songs will NEVER get sung, but people like to look it up and see they are there.

Much more common is to have a group come up and want to do a double shot of the I95 Song (as it was written here in FL about FL drivers), and the Rodeo song- both co-incidently on the same disc. These are not my 20 somethings. Usually the 30-50 somethings. And if there is trouble, usually it is the older people that should know better starting it. I don't think I have EVER seen a fight break out over a whole bar answering back to "Family Tradition" or "You Outta Know".

Now Shotgun CC- I would like that coffe with Equal and cream please.....

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Here ya go, DBK .... and its piping hot and gooooooood!!  Thanks for the company ........ my other half is already christmas shopping ... so its nice to have good company this morning!!!

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Now that's what I'm talking bout.....reminds me of the Mayan coffee at that resort in Mexico....

And thanks for the concern Morgan, but when watching your sugar, equal is not as bad......

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BD - your last post was well put. Thank you for clarifying.
I appreciate your opinion, without implying if we don't do it your way we are unprofessional. I'm glad that is not what you meant.

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I've sung a few songs with the occasional f-bomb.   My theory is that anything in the KJ's book is fair game.  When I bring my own discs, I just ask the KJ if it's okay to sing a song with profanity in it.  So far I have never been turned down.  If they said no, I'd just sing something else.  No muss, no fuss.

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Actually we do censor at our club, by management request.  I agree with BD in a sense, if those songs aren't in the book, chances are those types of singers won't come in - although I get a pretty diverse crowd of all ages as well, it can go from WInd Beneath My Wings one song to Bodies or Du Hast the next - without any problems or anyone leaving because of it.  I try to get to know all my customers at some point in the evening.   
But I disagree that any show that has those F-Bomb or hard rap songs listed are going to get nothing but screaming drunks or those are the only types of singers they will attract.  The HOST is a key factor in determining how your crowd acts as well as the club atmosphere as well & bartender pours - and watching their customers, not so much what is in the book.  I've seen shows where people have gotten rowdy when nothing but 'respectful' songs were being sung.

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Well it just so happens that last night I had a bunch of singers 8-10, I never saw before.   Now I asked the KJ that sometimes fills in when bands cancel if she ever saw them before.  She said they were regulars at her sometimes Friday/Saturday show, that she plays wild a** dance/whatever music and has an uncensored song book.  She told them to come to my show because my book was bigger than hers.   Guess what the majority of them want to sing.     Those angry rock, swearing songs.   Now what do you think happens when I have to put 5-6 singers in close together that sing that stuff.   Normal people start looking at me kinda funny.    I wish she would have kept her big mouth shut.  

The question is.... What will you do when you get a gang of like minded singers coming in that want to scream/sing that type of music?     Tell them no?    It will have an effect on your regulars.     It may chase out a few.   What ya gonna do when they say goodbye?      How you gonna feel and how will you handle it?      Now it starts effecting your/bar owners wallet to some extent.

I give credit to the other KJ for finding a way into your business and disrupting it. If the master of hosting cannot come up with a simple solution like mixing the new and old singers in to break up the monotony, then what else can he not handle?

Lately someone reminds me  of that old neighbor in comedies that the local kids love screwing with because it is easy and they know how upset he gets.....chasing his own tail and all...

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