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Angel... WHERE do you get your statistics from????????????????????

Do you ever see TV news or read web news or see the local and national newspapers? Come out of your protective bubble and see the real world. Everything is not coming up all roses.

There is much death and destruction happening at a neighborhood near you. I would guess that you could drive 5 minutes in any direction and run in to it.

The drug dealers on the nearest corner aren't listening to Christy Music on their stolen ipods. Drive by shooters aren't playing the heavy bass thumping Hanson Brothers. Wait i'll pinch myself to see if it's all just a nightmare i'm having.

No, sadly i'm really awake.

Tattoos, swearing, drinking and gun use eh. Then I guess the majority of military personnel are unfit and a detriment to society. What utter tripe. In reality your big drug dealers live in affluent neighbourhoods and could in fact be your neighbour.

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Man, after reading all of this I feel (dirty)........time to clean up!!!

***jumps in scalding hot shower***

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Yup, nothing but long-sleeved turtle necks for me from now on....tattooed biker grandmother that I be.

That's twice I've asked you a direct question, and you dance around an answer without answering. I give up! I don't know about the rest of you folks in this this Forum, but I'm totally ignoring Angel from now on.

What the heck are you talking about?
Heard it all?
Heck! They bloody well INVENTED it!

Why don't you mellow out, calm down, and come back to reality? Take a pill. Relax and flow with the go.

I live on the outskirts of a major city. It use to be far enough away but it's creeping outwards. Therefore we get the city news on TV. There hasn't been a day go by for several months that there hasn't been a shooting in the rougher neighborhoods in and near the city.

Maybe in your country everyone runs around handing out flowers and singing love songs. In the real world things like death, drugs, gun and gang violence are happening everyday. Many of the dead ones listen to rap music. Go figure. If they were listening to Christian rock maybe it would be different. Maybe the city should pump in Christian music and see if anything changes.

I don't have a patent on stereotypes. I didn't invent prejudices. The biggest money making occupation in the next ten years will be tattoo removal experts. When all the young ones wake up and realize that society still looks down upon people with major tattoos and peircings they will conform to the society expectations. When they can only get burger flipping jobs with their college diploma because they look like they came out of a circus side show. And to regular people they look scary. I'm not making these things up. Parents tried to warn them not to do it but they wanted to be cool like the rest of their friends. Their frineds aren't going to pay their bills for them because they won't have good paying jobs either. Again there will be exceptions but i think it will be the norm.

People will have reservations about hiring a doctor, lawyer and other high paid professionals that look like circus freaks. Plumbers, ditch diggers, gang leaders and hired killers won't matter. They will fit right in.

I have seen some beautiful women that turned plain scary and ugly after getting too many peircings and tattoos. It's not a big leap from beautiful to freak from going overboard with adorments. They could be the nicest people in the world but it's how they are preceived. If you think i'm the only person to think this way you all need a reality check. When the kids come back home to live off you because nobody wants to hire them remember what i'm telling you.

Big business has expectations and rules for dress and appearence for dealing with the public. I didn't set them. They were in place long before i was born. It's still that way. Nobody hires a lawyer that looks like they just got out of the slammer. Bankers and wall streeters aren't running around showing off their full neck, arm and back tattoos to prospective clients. Nobody is going to invest thousands of dollars with the guy that looks like Hells Angels enforcers. Well maybe drug lords.

As far as listening to rap music causing problems. Have you ever heard Bill Cosby trying to talk reason to the black community about calling themselves Nwords in song? Trying to preach the evils of the gangsta rap music to their kids? Get out of your bubble. Well maybe you should just stay in there. It's a much safer place.

Society is going down the toilet and some music has a lot to do with it. If you are happy in la-la land with they way everything is spiraling down then continue to feed the flames until you are consumed. Repent now children, before it's too late.

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I am with Cueball -- I simply choose to ignore angel, who apparently lives in a Mad Maxx apocalyptic nether-world.

I'm just not buying the scenario that MUSIC turns the world evil. My shows are pretty mellow, IMO.

Whoever hires the kj.


This is the BIGGEST CROCK OF HOOEY i've ever heard. Most of the people that come to my shows are tatooed to the gills, I even have a tattoo shop that I am in negotiations to sponser me since most of our crowd have ink on them, ages ranging from 20-80's. DO NOT stereotype something you OBVIOUSLY have NO KNOWLEDGE about!


Completely depends on the artist & the song.


Again, what the hell does that have anything to do with decency (correct spelling)?


Once again you display absolutely NO KNOWLEDGE of what you speak here. MANY of my friends are inked & are not ANY of what you think. BUT then you know what they say about people who (@$%&#!) U ME! I guess I am going to totally blow your image of me since I am going in to get my first ink job this weekend! I must be on drugs or have a criminal background or something else that you think???? How about I just want to have something displayed that I personally feel?


Where is your statistices proving this theory? Website links with proof would be good stating that this is fact instead of speculation on your part.


And there always has been from the dawn of time. Gee Elvis was pretty banned from many because he had the audacity to swing his hips when he sang. The Beatles were banned in many areas because they didn't cut their hair.....We can go on & on about what outdated people think are wrong.


Yes some kj's and bar owners do not have any problems with these types of songs or shows - if you do, then don't go! Pretty simple philosophy there.


Why do you think that is?


If my club allows it and my singers want it, then I go with the singers. If you think it's a filthy show, then don't go there. Plain & simple as that. Not your cup of tea, find another place, chances are the club is not going to change if they are making bank in the till. If the club is having problems because of certain singers that happen to be singing those songs, then the club and/or kj may want to rethink the policy - as in my case, in which we deleted anything with the vulgar language & do not allow it on stage at all. Doesn't mean I am for or against the policy, it is completely club dependant. Not all clubs that allow it are having problems as have been stated here by many. If I had a full club of singers singing foul mouthed songs & one like you that didn't like it, if I had to make a choice, i'd opt to tell you to leave over the rest. If it was the other way around, i'd opt for you to stay and for the 1 that insisted on singing those songs to leave if it was offending everyone else. It is all club dependant.


No YOU have the choice to go to those shows or not.

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Angel behaves like a recently converted Christian, often does. Much the same as a newly reformed smoker. Hmmmm...
Moderation in all things....

Sorry not born again and or hypocritically religious.

Bill Cosby can't be wrong. I'm 100% behind him on this. Maybe you should do some research on his efforts. He obviously isn't nuts or making this up. He feels the black role models, mostly gangsta rap musicians are taking the black youth down the wrong road. It has to do with their lyrical content. Which is exactly what this entire conversation is about. Lyrics and their negative effect and influence on people that listen to them.

I commend his efforts and his insight. You all should be more open minded and understanding.

Ask yourself if you would want your kids listening to nothing but gangsta rap 24/7?

If so why? If not why?

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I know I said I was going to ignore Angel from now on, but I just HAVE TO make a comment on this....



I didn't know the DEAD could listen to any type of music, let alone Rap.

LMFAO @ INVENTED it.

Sounds like you have a drug problem not a music problem.

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Angel, I can see how you can have the views that you have, because YOU'RE the one living in "lala land". From what you've said, it is OBVIOUS that you are a born and raised SUBURBANITE. You're trying to comment on a society that you have NO first hand knowledge of, only what you see and hear on the news. Gangsta rap music is not the cause of young inner city youth killing each other, poverty, alcohol, and drugs are, along with ALL of the other family problems that occur from these things. Bill Cosby will not prevent these kids from doing what their doing, because he is not one of THEIR roll models, no more than Ozzie and Harriet were the role models for poor WHITE kids that grew up in the SEEDIER part of town. I could go on with this discussion, but I'm sure nobody wants to hear all of this, so if you'd like to PM me, we could ENLIGHTEN each other, about the differences in the "LOWER" class, big city person, and the "UPPER" class, suburbanite SNOB. Thanks to all (in advance), for me highjacking this (adult language) thread, to give my commentary on the AMERICAN way of life as "I" see it. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I do have "first hand" knowledge of what I speak. I guess I REALLY dated myself with the reference to Ozzie and Harriet.

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Well not surprisingly (at least not to me) this thread as degenerated into high emotions, stereotyping, borderline racism and name calling. Same thing that happens every time this topic comes up on Karaoke boards or anywhere else. I'm not shocked by the behavior, but I am shocked that it's come from some of the posters it has. I've lost respect for a number of posters that I had previously held in pretty high regard based on the stereotypical, snobbish and in some cases racist attitudes.

There's only one thing left to comment on for me. Rap music does have it's place in our society. Twenty-some years ago I really hoped it would be a fad and just disappear. It hasn't happened, but like many genre's it has matured over time. Rap recording artists have driven the development of new technology and techniques, just the way rock did in the 60's and again in the 80's. I've seen some very impressive things done in rap compilations that I'd have never thought to try in a recording studio.

Music is about not only self expression but exploring the limits of one's creativity.

OK, resume your regularly scheduled mud slinging, hair pulling wrestling match. I'm outta this one.

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I just watch who has what. I don't see young professionals and businesspeople displaying those, and I know there are lots of employers who won't stand for it.

All things have *some* value. Even tattoos and piercings. But I believe very-visible permanent tattoos are *stupid*. Does anyone think of what they are going to be doing 20, 30, and 40 years from now? There are still, thank goodness, an lot of kids who don't do that. My guess is that they are going to have an easier road than the ones who emboss a 20-something philosophy for everyone to see forever.

If they are under normally-clothed spots, I can't see nearly the harm in it. A long-sleeved shirt, long pants, closed collar hides it. But on the high neck? Or back of the hand or back of the neck? To me it's a sign of stupidity and I would think long and hard about employing someone who had such a marking.

I don't have a problem with someone liking something. But when the contention was made that gangsta rap has made INFINITE contributions to COUNTLESS people, I wanted to speak up. No, it's a pretty contemptible area of music that glorifies women-hating, sexual assault, lawbreaking, and fighting cops. Trying to claim it has some socially redeeming value? Fine. INFINITE AND COUNTLESS? Give me a break, Topher.

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