Everything just mentioned is illegal, that's the only problem i see.
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| Author: | ok What Now [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mobile Recording |
i'm thinking of starting a mobile karaoke recording studio, plus for all the singers that record i could start a web site and put their songs on there so they could hear and talk to others that have recorded....any thoughts r idea's? good idea bad idea? i found a web site where someone else is doing it, i'm sure there are plenty of others but can a person make money at it? and what prices would/could someone charge? ty Billy |
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| Author: | MorganLeFey [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
I think Kelley and her hubby do something similar Billy. Good luck :hug: As to am I still smoke free, yes I am...so thats over 3 months now |
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| Author: | TTowntenor [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
There are several clubs around here the will record. Sometimes they will charge up to $20 for a disc & the quality isn't even that good. If you are going to charge make sure the quality sounds good or be willing to do retakes. |
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| Author: | sidewinder [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
Everything just mentioned is illegal, that's the only problem i see.
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| Author: | ok What Now [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
MorganLeFey @ Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:24 pm wrote: I think Kelley and her hubby do something similar Billy. Good luck :hug:
As to am I still smoke free, yes I am...so thats over 3 months now thats great....how do you feel? better yet how does ur hubby feel?  l... ...kinda sorta....
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| Author: | ok What Now [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
TTowntenor @ Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:06 pm wrote: There are several clubs around here the will record. Sometimes they will charge up to $20 for a disc & the quality isn't even that good. If you are going to charge make sure the quality sounds good or be willing to do retakes.
yes i think a couple of re-takes isn't too much, after that i may have to charge a small amount...$20 seems high to me, maybe 15 for the first 1 and 10 for the next ones....ty alot |
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| Author: | ok What Now [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
sidewinder @ Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:05 pm wrote: Everything just mentioned is illegal, that's the only problem i see.
yea yea, i was on the beach the other day and heck i think everything is illegal now....no food no pets no glass no drinking, no fires...pretty soon it will be BYOS....bring your own sand....but i know where ur coming from....ty alot |
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| Author: | karyoker [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
Again.... One recording or re-creation is not illegal and doesnt require a license or fees. It is not distribution. This site explains the leagalities (Read this page from top to bottom and quit making assumptions or promulgating false legal advice) and professionally provides the complete services for making legal recordings. |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
I just started recording at our club & do it for free. Audacity is a decent little program for this. Once i'm done, I transfer it to a flash drive, bring them home & they have the option for me to burn to disc or to upload to my website for them to download which no one around here is doing yet. So far everyone but 2 has opted to go to the website. The ones that wanted a disc said their drive in the computer don't work. I know of a couple that charge as well, have been told anywhere from $15-25 for a capacity disc - where they will record enough songs first then burn, or $5-10 for a disc per night which could only mean a couple songs depending on the rotation. I figure I already have everything set up anyway & it really takes no more time during the show so or my time during the show other than pushing a R & S key to record & stop-why charge? Only real time it takes is separating the tracks & uploading. |
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| Author: | ok What Now [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
i'm not an expert but, i think it's playing to a person's vanity, i'm beginning to believe that most people think they can sing and love to hear themselves even if they can't truly sing....and would be willing to pay to hear themselves, but what do i know? ....
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| Author: | Karen K [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
I record people for free - have a Tascam burner in my rack. The sound quality is simply amazing....and I have never charged anyone. I say once or twice during the evening, if they want to be recorded to please put an "R" in the corner of their request slip. It can get tricky if you have 5-6 singers who want to be recorded, but since I play bumper music, it is barely noticeable, the time it takes to cue up the burner, etc. At the end of the night, it takes 1:07 to finalize each disc. Have to be careful - you should be careful about recording not-so-good singers. Reality lands at home when they realize they sound 'not so good.' Hard to get them to sing again. Just a caveat about recording. I'll surprise someone occasionally and they just LOVE to get that CD at the end of the night. K |
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| Author: | stogie [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
I would think it would be even better to record them onto video. Then they can hear and see themselves. Hmmmmm . . . |
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| Author: | sidewinder [ Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
"Again.... One recording or re-creation is not illegal and doesnt require a license or fees. It is not distribution. This site explains the leagalities (Read this page from top to bottom and quit making assumptions or promulgating false legal advice) and professionally provides the complete services for making legal recordings. " The music is not yours to distribute in the first place. Never was. You have absolutely no legal right to make a recording of anybody. Especially if you sell them. That would require you to have a license from ASCAP/BMI. That is distribution. You own nothing...you have the right to play the disc in the privacy of your house. That's it. You do not have a legal right to play any song in public, unless ASCAP/BMI have issued a license to the place of employment. I'm not even sure about a song in public domain. I'm calling kameragirl on this one. You'll see... LMAO
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| Author: | sidewinder [ Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
If you travel across state lines to do it, you are in Federal trouble.
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| Author: | MorganLeFey [ Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
ok What Now @ Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:53 pm wrote: MorganLeFey @ Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:24 pm wrote: I think Kelley and her hubby do something similar Billy. Good luck :hug: As to am I still smoke free, yes I am...so thats over 3 months now thats great....how do you feel? better yet how does ur hubby feel? l......kinda sorta....my husband will swear what I say is the truth, he says my temperament never changed at home...he continued to smoke in the house and I never once complained...at work was a different story...the woman who has attempted to make my life hell since I started discovered it was payback with interest. All my aggression and torment was channelled toward her and trust me if I had been left alone with a weapon and her she would have been badly injured. But I took her to lunch yesterday  I even shouted
Now my husband is attempting to wean himself off. He is down to about 6 ciggys per day and I cant say that his temper isnt exactly sweet pmsl but he is trying to keep busy and the project he has chosen has been to paint the ceiling...cant complain cept its meant that I have been offline all day as all in the living room has been covered in dust sheets
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| Author: | MorganLeFey [ Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
Billy just say the word and I will roll out the jerk-o-meter |
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| Author: | karyoker [ Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
 Ascp/bmi have nothing to do with copyright laws or licensing and cannot bust, enforce or even investigate or ask anybody whether their cd's are legal or not. They want you to think they can. . They are not a federal agency There is a fee that the venue should pay for public performance. My gripe is their tactics such as RIAA that try to intimidate with lawsuits, have no sense of fairness and want to get greedy. If you read that link they are concerned with public performance only.
Anybody with that power will have a web site that is .gov, not .com or anything else. |
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| Author: | sidewinder [ Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
They most certainly do. They sell the license for public performance. If you do not have the license you ARE IN VIOLATION of the copyright laws. You are using copyrighted material without permission. Since you don't own the rights to the music you play. Kameragirl, where are you... 
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| Author: | karyoker [ Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
Quote: 3) Order your licenses through easySongLicensing.com After you get your free search results, you decide when you will order your licenses. You can order from our web site using the "Add to Cart" buttons on this page (below). After we see your payment, we assemble all the information about your project into a clean, clear mechanical license request. We send the request to the publisher along with a royalty payment. Quote: 4) Receive formal confirmation in the mail and proceed with distribution Once your licenses have cleared we send you formal confirmation in the mail. As soon as you receive confirmation from us, you are cleared to begin distributing your album. The total time it takes for you to receive formal confirmation after you get your search results is typically 5-7 business days. Quote: ABOUT ASCAP LICENSING
ASCAP licenses the right to perform songs and musical works created and owned by songwriters, composers, lyricists and music publishers who are ASCAP members and members of foreign performing rights organizations who are represented by ASCAP in the United States. Performance rights have nothing to do with copyright laws or licenses to record and distribute. Music is copyrighted through the Library of Congress. More and more musicians now copyright but dont want to be represented by ascap/bmi but disribute and sell with the internet. You say if the bar hasnt paid ASCAP I"M violating a copyright law? I or my singers are not responsible to ASCAP and have done nothing wrong. Neither has the bar violated a copyright law. The bar simply does not have the proper license for Public Performance. |
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| Author: | ok What Now [ Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mobile Recording |
MorganLeFey @ Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:32 am wrote: Billy just say the word and I will roll out the jerk-o-meter
i have one r 2 of those myself.... l...that poor woman....and ty for the web info...
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