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Author:  kj-karaoke [ Fri May 02, 2008 8:41 am ]
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Trying to figure out if theres anything else i need for my pa system that im using for karaoke   I have yamaha mixer with fx effects  ross 800 watt amp for ev 15s
peavey 1400 watt amp for peavey 18 black widow dbx dual 32 band eq dbx crossover sonic maximizer jvc player yamaha stage monitors  think thats it haha is there any more componets that i need to make any better thanks joe kj  karaoke
Author:  Lonman [ Fri May 02, 2008 8:44 am ]
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As long as you know how to use it all, you should be more than fine.  
May consider compressors for the mics & maybe a separate 31 band eq for the stage monitors if they are running off an independant mix.
Author:  dbk1009 [ Fri May 02, 2008 9:56 am ]
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Some mics might not be a bad idea...lol
Author:  kj-karaoke [ Fri May 02, 2008 10:36 am ]
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i have shure 58 mics and a set of voco pro wireless mics  what kinda compression for mics are good ? seems like theres something else?Trying for a great system
Author:  Lonman [ Fri May 02, 2008 11:31 am ]
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Good basic compressor since you are taking a liking to dbx, i'd go with a dbx 266XL or a little better compressor with a good limiter would be the 166XL.  These are 2 channel processors & would take care of 2 mics.  If you got more than 2 mics, then you'd need another (or as many mics you have) to compress those mics as well.

The key thing is you can have all the best equipment in the world, but it ultimately YOU that is going to be the actual factor on how it all sounds when put together & run.  Make sure you know what everything does, each knob, each switch, each fader, etc.  The best equipment doesn't mean anything if the operator doesn't know how to use it.  As far as the equipment goes you do have a nice rig so far.
Author:  mckyj57 [ Fri May 02, 2008 11:38 am ]
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If your Yamaha mixer is the MG124CX or the like, you may already have compression built into the mixer....check that out before buying a compressor.
Author:  kj-karaoke [ Mon May 05, 2008 8:48 am ]
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Does anyone know or have reviews on DBX drive rack pa seems to have everything buit in
Author:  Lonman [ Mon May 05, 2008 9:07 am ]
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kj-karaoke @ Mon May 05, 2008 8:48 am wrote:
Does anyone know or have reviews on DBX drive rack pa seems to have everything buit in


Great unit, it is geared ALOT for JBL/Crown combinations, doesn't mean you can't great sound out of other speaker/amp combos, alot of tweaking is involved & if you get the RTA mic that goes with it, you can get a good response in most room settings.  Nice thing about this is once you get it set up & sounding good in a room, save the settings & next time you can just call them up.
My only thing is sticking your eggs all in one basket scenerio.  If it goes out, you lose you crossover, compressor/limiter, eq, parametric eq, sonic enhancements, etc. as they are all built in.  You really wouldn't need to use any of the external pieces (maybe the eq but doubtful) with it.
Author:  LondonLive [ Mon May 05, 2008 10:29 pm ]
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kj-karaoke @ Mon May 05, 2008 11:48 am wrote:
Does anyone know or have reviews on DBX drive rack pa seems to have everything buit in


I've been using a Driverack for about three years. At first they are a little intimidating, but once you learn your way around them  they are great. I wouldn't even think about running my system without one now. For a little while I left a couple of 31 band EQ's in my rack just in case but now I trust it all to that little single rack space critter. You'll find the RTA feature very useful, it will help you really tighten up your sound. The built in feedback filters work very well also, I usually will set 3 or 4 for fixed and let the rest float. I used to have a 10 space rack full of goodies, I'm now down to a 4 space. By the way, I have two ten space racks for sale  LMAO. The EQ's can be set up as dual mono or Stereo, using dual mono enables you to EQ your stacks separately to help compensate for those hard to mix odd shaped rooms. Most all the features come in handy.
Author:  mckyj57 [ Tue May 06, 2008 5:20 am ]
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I have been looking at the Driverack and the Behringer equivalent. I was trying to figure out  if it can take a stereo input and output crossed-over mono.
Author:  LondonLive [ Tue May 06, 2008 8:17 am ]
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mckyj57 @ Tue May 06, 2008 8:20 am wrote:
I have been looking at the Driverack and the Behringer equivalent. I was trying to figure out  if it can take a stereo input and output crossed-over mono.


I don't know about the Behringer but I know you can with the Driverack. They don't talk about it in the manual but it can easily be done. As a matter of fact as some of you know I switched to powered speakers a few months ago and by just setting up a full range crossover (meaning I just set the low's to run from 40Hz thru 20K)  on the DRPA I was able to still use it and take advantage of the other features. I also set up a two way  so I could control the volume of my subs separately. Since I've owned mine I've set up about any configuration you could think of, including ways that they don't even suggest in the manual.  Another feature some may not realize is that the compressors and limiters operate independent in that you can use different setting for Lows, Mids, and highs in a three way set up. In its price range the DRPA is a very useful and worth every penny especially when you consider what it replaces. I highly recommend it to anyone that is serious about their sound.
Author:  mckyj57 [ Tue May 06, 2008 8:27 am ]
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LondonLive @ Tue May 06, 2008 11:17 am wrote:
mckyj57 @ Tue May 06, 2008 8:20 am wrote:
I have been looking at the Driverack and the Behringer equivalent. I was trying to figure out  if it can take a stereo input and output crossed-over mono.


I don't know about the Behringer but I know you can with the Driverack. They don't talk about it in the manual but it can easily be done. As a matter of fact as some of you know I switched to powered speakers a few months ago and by just setting up a full range crossover (meaning I just set the low's to run from 40Hz thru 20K)  on the DRPA I was able to still use it and take advantage of the other features. I also set up a two way  so I could control the volume of my subs separately. Since I've owned mine I've set up about any configuration you could think of, including ways that they don't even suggest in the manual.  Another feature some may not realize is that the compressors and limiters operate independent in that you can use different setting for Lows, Mids, and highs in a three way set up. In its price range the DRPA is a very useful and worth every penny especially when you consider what it replaces. I highly recommend it to anyone that is serious about their sound.


I am going to strongly consider this then. I could see this setup for me:

      Yamaha MG124C mixer (includes compression)
      Power conditioner
      EQ1502 dual 15-band eq (for FX lowfreq rolloff and monitor EQ)
      Driverack
      Lexicon MX200 effects
      EP2500 power amp

That is only 6 spaces, and I think it can produce great sound. With the DriveRack I can easily then move between my stereo 15" speaker configuration and my 10" tops 15" sub config.
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