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Author:  str1der [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Speakers and Amp or powered speakers?

I'm looking for a setup for home karaoke. I have a laptop and a Berhinger UB-1204 Pro. Do you recommend powered speakers or an amp and speakers? Any suggestions? Don't want anything huge but something that has pretty good sound. I was originally looking at getting something like a Kustom Profle PA one but don't need the mixer since I have the 1204 and I assume the FX are better in the 1204 anyway.

Also do you think the Berhinger USB external soundcard is a good choice for this kind of setup?

Author:  Lonman [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:59 pm ]
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Less hassle with powered speakers in a home setting.
If you want something to make noise, then the Behringer USB is fine. If you want more audiophile quality, then no.

Author:  str1der [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:11 pm ]
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Lonman @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:59 pm wrote:
Less hassle with powered speakers in a home setting.
If you want something to make noise, then the Behringer USB is fine. If you want more audiophile quality, then no.


Any recommendations on the speakers and a different USB external?

Author:  Lonman [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:15 pm ]
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Well i'll start with here.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=606060

3 piece system so you could tuck the sub in a corner & the speakers in a regular spot.

Author:  mckyj57 [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:45 am ]
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Lonman @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:15 pm wrote:
Well i'll start with here.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=606060

3 piece system so you could tuck the sub in a corner & the speakers in a regular spot.

This one will sound great, and if you ever want to gig out for a party at your friends place or your church it will rock!

Author:  str1der [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:48 am ]
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Lonman @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:15 pm wrote:
Well i'll start with here.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=606060

3 piece system so you could tuck the sub in a corner & the speakers in a regular spot.


Thanks for the info. That does seem like it would put out the sound but is getting up there in price a bit. That's as much or more than a lot of the complete PA systems I've looked at. Can you recommend something a little less costly. Remember this only for in my house.

Author:  jamkaraoke [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:22 am ]
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Check out the powered mixers from Behringer - They have some inexpensive ones for as low as $199 along with speakers as low as $99 - FOR A HOME SYSTEM these are fine and affordable. BUt if you think you'll get GRAND ideas of having a JAMMING party etc or going on the road --You may gave to cough up the bucks :D :)

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigati ... =P_Price|0

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigati ... =P_Price|0

Author:  str1der [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:38 am ]
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jamkaraoke @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:22 am wrote:
Check out the powered mixers from Behringer - They have some inexpensive ones for as low as $199 along with speakers as low as $99 - FOR A HOME SYSTEM these are fine and affordable. BUt if you think you'll get GRAND ideas of having a JAMMING party etc or going on the road --You may gave to cough up the bucks :D :)

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigati ... =P_Price|0

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigati ... =P_Price|0


I already have the Berhinger 1204. Are you saying I would be better off not using that and getting a mixer/amp? I saw that Berhinger has some decent priced active speakers. Any experience with those? The ones I looked at ran between $4-$500.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-EUROLIVE-B212A-Active-2Way-Loudspeaker-Pair?sku=600483

No thoughts about ever hitting the road. This is simply for the house. Before I built the new house I was using a PC with the 1204 and running it into my Harmon Kardon A/V receiver out to my AV123 Rockets. Unfortunately the vocals blew one of the drivers so I don't want that to happen again.

Author:  jamkaraoke [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:06 am ]
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Sorry --Since you have a pro-audio type mixer --All you need is powered speakers and those would be a good choice !

Does you mixer have EFFECTS built in ??

Author:  twansenne [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:50 am ]
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Since you have the mixer, get one or two of these Behringer B212A Powered Speakers. Theses are 12" powered speakers, that run around $220 each. You could go up to the 15 inch ones (B215A), but the 12's will do great for home use.

Author:  str1der [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:19 pm ]
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jamkaraoke @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:06 pm wrote:
Sorry --Since you have a pro-audio type mixer --All you need is powered speakers and those would be a good choice !

Does you mixer have EFFECTS built in ??


Yes it has 99 built in effects. Although I was never really sure which one was the best to use. :?

Author:  str1der [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:20 pm ]
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twansenne @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:50 pm wrote:
Since you have the mixer, get one or two of these Behringer B212A Powered Speakers. Theses are 12" powered speakers, that run around $220 each. You could go up to the 15 inch ones (B215A), but the 12's will do great for home use.


That's what I think I'm going to do. Any thoughts on a USB sound card to run from my PC?

Author:  Lonman [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:46 pm ]
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str1der @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:48 am wrote:
Lonman @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:15 pm wrote:
Well i'll start with here.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=606060

3 piece system so you could tuck the sub in a corner & the speakers in a regular spot.


Thanks for the info. That does seem like it would put out the sound but is getting up there in price a bit. That's as much or more than a lot of the complete PA systems I've looked at. Can you recommend something a little less costly. Remember this only for in my house.


Oh you can be assured the sound quality is there.

Since you already have a mixer, you don't really need a full PA, just a couple powered speakers.
Here's a couple more suggestions.
A couple of these
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=600299
or
Not a big fan of the quality of these, but you want more budget oriented
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=600483
or
Even less fond of the sound quality of these - pretty bass lacking, but then in a home setting may sound ok.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=601425

Author:  Lonman [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:49 pm ]
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str1der @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:19 am wrote:
jamkaraoke @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:06 pm wrote:
Sorry --Since you have a pro-audio type mixer --All you need is powered speakers and those would be a good choice !

Does you mixer have EFFECTS built in ??


Yes it has 99 built in effects. Although I was never really sure which one was the best to use. :?


No real set setting, just listen to the original song & try to match up the effect. Reverb is typically used (to some degree or another) in every recorded song in history. Some will also use many of the other effects like delay, flange, chorus, etc...or a combo of several all at once.
This is a play by ear & what sounds good to you, again, no right or wrong setting, just what sounds good to you!

Author:  str1der [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:54 pm ]
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Lonman @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:46 pm wrote:
str1der @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:48 am wrote:
Lonman @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:15 pm wrote:
Well i'll start with here.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=606060

3 piece system so you could tuck the sub in a corner & the speakers in a regular spot.


Thanks for the info. That does seem like it would put out the sound but is getting up there in price a bit. That's as much or more than a lot of the complete PA systems I've looked at. Can you recommend something a little less costly. Remember this only for in my house.


Oh you can be assured the sound quality is there.

Since you already have a mixer, you don't really need a full PA, just a couple powered speakers.
Here's a couple more suggestions.
A couple of these
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=600299
or
Not a big fan of the quality of these, but you want more budget oriented
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=600483
or
Even less fond of the sound quality of these - pretty bass lacking, but then in a home setting may sound ok.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=601425



Can you be specific about what you find lacking in the Behringers? I'm going to the local Guitar Center this weekend to see if I can listen to some.

Author:  Lonman [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Speakers and Amp or powered speakers?

str1der @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:54 am wrote:
Lonman @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:46 pm wrote:
str1der @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:48 am wrote:
Lonman @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:15 pm wrote:
Well i'll start with here.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=606060

3 piece system so you could tuck the sub in a corner & the speakers in a regular spot.


Thanks for the info. That does seem like it would put out the sound but is getting up there in price a bit. That's as much or more than a lot of the complete PA systems I've looked at. Can you recommend something a little less costly. Remember this only for in my house.


Oh you can be assured the sound quality is there.

Since you already have a mixer, you don't really need a full PA, just a couple powered speakers.
Here's a couple more suggestions.
A couple of these
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=600299
or
Not a big fan of the quality of these, but you want more budget oriented
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=600483
or
Even less fond of the sound quality of these - pretty bass lacking, but then in a home setting may sound ok.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=601425



Can you be specific about what you find lacking in the Behringers? I'm going to the local Guitar Center this weekend to see if I can listen to some.


For me honestly it's just their quality & lack there of, but that's my opinion & others seem to like them - probably due to their low cost. I've never been big on their sound quality or reliability.

Author:  str1der [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:45 am ]
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twansenne @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:50 pm wrote:
Since you have the mixer, get one or two of these Behringer B212A Powered Speakers. Theses are 12" powered speakers, that run around $220 each. You could go up to the 15 inch ones (B215A), but the 12's will do great for home use.


For the type of setup I'm looking at is there a reason to get two speakers or would one speaker serve me well. Not knowing a lot about mixers how would I set it up to use a single powered speaker?

Author:  Lonman [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:31 am ]
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str1der @ Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:45 am wrote:
twansenne @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:50 pm wrote:
Since you have the mixer, get one or two of these Behringer B212A Powered Speakers. Theses are 12" powered speakers, that run around $220 each. You could go up to the 15 inch ones (B215A), but the 12's will do great for home use.


For the type of setup I'm looking at is there a reason to get two speakers or would one speaker serve me well. Not knowing a lot about mixers how would I set it up to use a single powered speaker?


Well you could always start off with one. It won't be a stereo set-up which I do prefer in home settings, but it's not always needed either. Depending on the mixer, you would just pan all channels to the output the speaker is plugged into.
You could always add a second speaker later.

Author:  str1der [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:42 am ]
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Lonman @ Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:31 pm wrote:
str1der @ Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:45 am wrote:
twansenne @ Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:50 pm wrote:
Since you have the mixer, get one or two of these Behringer B212A Powered Speakers. Theses are 12" powered speakers, that run around $220 each. You could go up to the 15 inch ones (B215A), but the 12's will do great for home use.


For the type of setup I'm looking at is there a reason to get two speakers or would one speaker serve me well. Not knowing a lot about mixers how would I set it up to use a single powered speaker?


Well you could always start off with one. It won't be a stereo set-up which I do prefer in home settings, but it's not always needed either. Depending on the mixer, you would just pan all channels to the output the speaker is plugged into.
You could always add a second speaker later.


Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing. See how the one sounds then I could always add a second. Also wouldn't take up as much room.

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