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The last few weeks we've had the cops walking through the bar everynight around 12:00. People don't like this. They think they're being watched or something. I asked the owner what's up and he said nothing I think they must be bored lately. The crowd always seems to thin out after. It is a bit agravating. Well instead of ignoring it like I usually do, last night when they walked by the stage I announced the strippers were here. LMAO

Do any of you get this walk through from the cops? These guys must realize it's bad for business. Geez !

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Babs @ Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:08 am wrote:
The last few weeks we've had the cops walking through the bar everynight around 12:00. People don't like this. They think they're being watched or something. I asked the owner what's up and he said nothing I think they must be bored lately. The crowd always seems to thin out after. It is a bit agravating. Well instead of ignoring it like I usually do, last night when they walked by the stage I announced the strippers were here. LMAO

Do any of you get this walk through from the cops? These guys must realize it's bad for business. Geez !


How dumb are your customers...... :mrgreen: Hey a cop just left, we've been drinking, let's go now knowing he could be watching the bars parking lot waiting.
I see a cop do a walkthrough in a bar, that's the LAST thing I do is leave when they do or shortly after. I may change my drink over to try to sober up a little if anything & stay a little longer KNOWING there is a cop that may be in the area.
We get walkthroughs on occasion, no big. No one really freaks or anything.

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I know that was my first thought. Why would people leave just because the cops walked through. Maybe it's a coincidence, but it doesn't seem like it. I figured it was because it made people uncomfortable or maybe it made them realize they have had enough to drink it's time to go home. I really don't care they are there myself. It doesn't bother me.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:01 am 
we get the occasional walkthrough also... I keep the Cops theme "Bad Boys" in one of my preset buttons and play it when I see them come in... I didn't see them one night and one of them actually came up and requested I play their entrance theme music... I obliged in case one of them recognizes me if they pull me over LOL I want them in a good mood LOL... the audience always gets a kick when they hear the "bad boys bad boys, watcha gonna do" start up...

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:D “Bad Boys”… lol, that’s a great idea.

As for them walking through every day… that just smells funny.

Maybe they weren’t getting their pay-offs on time or something.

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If they come inside my room it's usually for a reason. The last time they were looking for somebody, found him, cuffed him, and escorted him out.

Too bad. He was doing some of the best material that night. 2Pac, Dr. Dre.... lost a good one there.

You know Babs if that was happening all the time in my place I'd probably ask them what's up? Just out of curiosity...

Personally I don't mind it if they cruise through once in a while. It kind of keeps the place on it's toes. Now mind your manners boys and girls! :mrgreen:


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here in town they walk through on fridays and satardays pretty much every week. if it happens all the time the patrons learn to ignore them.most times they are looking for underage or probation violations. other times its one certin person. if it happens all the time its a good thing. sorta like a smoking ban, it hurts at first then it becomes a good thing after a while.

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They used to drop in at times at a place I sang at. Ironically, they never dropped in at a much seedier karaoke bar 3 blocks up the street....


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 Post subject: Re: Cops
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:21 pm 
We get walkthroughs constantly on Fri and Sat nights. There are eight bars with good crowds in a three block radius. The cops usually camp on the skirts and bar hop looking for anything happening. We have a live music venue amongst us that had seven fights last Fri. There are usually one or two there each night on the weekends.

Like Supercharged says, most people just accept them as part of the scenery after awhile.


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Seattle, cops have standards too. LOL

Seriously, in most places normally walkthroughs are rare. However, in certain circumstances off duty police (in uniform) are hired as security. Two bars here had to do it in order to stay open (they had dollar drink nights and wondered why there were problems). I know when I was on duty I'd be by the military messes when they closed telling people who could or couldn't drive for their protection and safety of the public. This is called preventitive policing. But the only time I entered the messes was when called upon.

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They are usually looking for "known actors", at least in the bars I went to. We usually keyed up "I Shot The Sheriff". Of course our men in blue had a sense of humor. :mrgreen:


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At two different places where we go, the police are hanging out at closing and pulling everyone over. I got it once for "the little light by the license plate being out" and "your exhaust sounded a bit loud as you went by, maybe you should have it checked." I am careful about my drinking if I am the driver and I was never even asked if I had been drinking but it was scarey enough that I started being afraid to go out. The bar owner said business went down 25% when that started happening.

I am not in favor of drunk driving but a person shouldn't be afraid to drive through their own town at night. I do wish that bars would invent drinks for people who want to pay for their seat but not get drunk. When I switch to coke and they don't charge, I feel uncomfortable. Also it is difficult to drink sweet sodas or coffee all night. I know most people would have a fit but I wouldn't mind paying full price for a lime and soda if it meant I didn't have to get drunk but I was still paying my share for the entertainment. A group can have a designated driver and still pay their way but a lot of people come alone and have to watch their intake.


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I've never had a "walk thru" ...but drive thru in the parking lot and sit across the street in their cars is a weekly thing...

Only time they get out of their cars is at 2:01am when the bar is required to be EMPTY.


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Many of the karaoke pubs here get visited by the police from the anti-narcotic division. When those cops come; they by the truck load. The whole place got sealed off. Every one in side will under go urine test on the spot and those that tested positive got locked up.

I avoid those karaoke pub and so far have never been as to piss into a tube.

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Geeez Jian getting locked up for just testing positive!!!
That's pretty stiff. If they did that here in the U.S. half of the town would be locked up. How can they say you are using just by getting a positive result. There are a lot of reasons to test positive and not using such as over the counter meds and even shaking hands with someone that uses and then not washing you hand before the test you can transfer.


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Lone Wolf @ 6th September 2008, 1:00 am wrote:
Geeez Jian getting locked up for just testing positive!!!
That's pretty stiff. If they did that here in the U.S. half of the town would be locked up. How can they say you are using just by getting a positive result. There are a lot of reasons to test positive and not using such as over the counter meds and even shaking hands with someone that uses and then not washing you hand before the test you can transfer.


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At the station they will take one more sample that is then send to the Chem dept. If it negative you go home. If positive you end up at min. 6 months in rehab center.
If you are a pusher (someone with more stock than one can use at any one time) they hang you by the neck until you kaput.

The Anti-Vice cops also make regular trip to karaoke pubs. This group go after the GRO.

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My Fri night gig is in a small town where everybody knows everybody. The cops are all well acquainted with the trouble makers. I'm fortunate in that the owner where I work has a great working relationship with the cops and the cops know that he isn't going to allow any shenanigans. This place used to be a nasty, nasty place basically working as a drug clearing house; new owner does NOT even allow any of the old patrons in there. However, the town is so small that if someone burps up the street, everyone knows it. Kind of a different situation.

In another town I worked in, which is a mid sized town with multiple entertainment spots in a 1-block radius, the cops would often back up in the spots across the street and just sit and wait until closing time. They KNEW who would be driving impaired and would just wait for those people. You'd always HOPE that these people walked out when you did because the cops would be focused on THEM and not everyone else.

A couple of weeks ago at another gig, someone stupidly dialed 9-11 (I don't even know if they did it on purpose) so a cop shows up about a half hour before legal closing. Everyone that was left there at that time had been drinking all night and were deathly afraid to leave. They stood outside and had a very LONG smoking session waiting for the guy to leave. You should have seen the parking lot clear as soon as the cop disappeared over the hill!

I also got pulled over once for one of the three tail lights on the back of an old Rabbit car being out. I had quit drinking 2 hours before, the car was full of the smell of Taco Bell (friend riding with me), and he made me sit there for 15 minutes while he chatted with his other stater who pulled up behind him, and ran my license. That was almost just harassment. However, I was VERY thankful I was not impaired.


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It can constitute harrassment, and is illegal. Cops in the Chicago area are known for shaking down businesses, and drug dealers.....also known for beating up female bar tenders, so a female KJ wouldn't be immune...... :) .....I suggest John pay the protection money.... :lol:


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UnHinged @ Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:52 pm wrote:
:D “Bad Boys”… lol, that’s a great idea.

As for them walking through every day… that just smells funny.

Maybe they weren’t getting their pay-offs on time or something.

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It can constitute harrassment, and is illegal. Cops in the Chicago area are known for shaking down businesses, and drug dealers.....also known for beating up female bar tenders, so a female KJ wouldn't be immune...... .....I suggest John pay the protection money....


John pay - That's a oxymoron

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Yeah, One thing that tends to change a mellow mood on a friday around 1 AM, is when a crew enters the bar and about three go behind the counter quicky while local cops seal the lounge entry-ways and stand by the bathroom doors, the marking of bottles starts, and the guys in the ATF jackets take charge of the cash registers inspecting every nook and cranny while about 3 more are checking the kitchen, and standing at all the doors being VERY careful as to who they let out of the bar..They seal it temporarily, it becomes like a big holding cell but the music is still playing, it's just that the lights are now on..Usually after I've become paranoid (even though I don't drink) given 15 minutes max exposure to the ATF bust I'll head to the door and a plain clothed person who happened to be there the night before, and an hour before the current bust says, "Yeah, let this guy go, he's obviously of age and he's straight, (so I still get the look as though I'm some out've place goofball but at leastg they let me out've the holding tank) after noticing I've been sitting alone drinking coffee watching some stupid television program and I'm roughly twice the age of the next oldest patron... but they do seal-off the bar and that's never comfortable during a raid, I've even seen people brought into the kitchen and held there..

What happens at times is a place known for past drug busts thats on probation (meaning the owner is in jail for selling street narcotics at the bar and his parents or soon to be prospective ex-wife number 5 waiting for owner to finish serving his sentence) is are now watching the bar, but local busts have also been made for admitting 16 year old attractive females (who the male doormen seem to think for some reason) given one piece of fake indentification that these are easily 30 year old women, of course DUI's from patrons leaving show otherwise (yet the Johns are usually of age they leave with). Naturally at 50 I still get asked for 3 pieces of ID... but I guess all attractive females obviously look "old enough" to let into these bars..

A few have been busted around here... In a few states in the 70's and 80's there've been plenty of bars where there've been shootings, knives pulled on doormen, felons on the lamb from a nearby prison with tipoffs they are in a certain bar. When I was performing in years back there were some really uncomfortable moments, bartenders busted for serving minors, doormen that are questioned regarding parking lot rapes.. (problem is I personally couldn't remember the woman that raped me so they had to ask the doorman for clues regarding features of the woman who followed me out've the bar and did it), seriously though, I hate being apprehended by the cops..or questioned after getting pulled over by some cop who's asking for directions, etc.. In Upstate New York bars, and certain CT bars in 70's, and 80's there'd be breach of peace and violence arrests but the past ten years it seems law enforcement does look harder to fault find, things have become more conservative during this move back towards a period that almost seems to be heading many areas towards "dry counties" and the prohibition days.. Zoning hates the alcohol serving establishments in the old affluent religions suburbs.


Yeah, bar busts can kill a mood :/ Without I doubt... I've been in a couple their last night before having their license suspended for gambling events for weeks to months... Many upper-class historic rural areas that are trying to revert back *and have been* to dry counties really want to put liquor serving establishments thru hell.. It's been this way for a long time... Sort've like the Austin suburb area raids that took place two years back... but in these places, the bars are usually on probation and standing on their last leg.

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