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Jerry_S
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:46 pm |
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is there a fairly large collection of standards that I should start with?
Who is the manufacturer and where do I buy?
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kenj30
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:27 pm |
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I've had success with the Chartbusters cdg's, I don't think I've had a problem with any of them I've gotten. I got a used collection of DFK/DGK discs for a smokin deal from our local karaoke store and have been happy with them as well. You can't beat the price on the IMPK discs, picked mine up for $79 with a pretty wide variety of music at 520 songs but some of the tracks are mislabled on the discs themselves which is a real downer when someone requests it, you double check the disc and it is totally the wrong song.
I've read on here that the Sound Choice products are quality as well and I think they have some starter library type collections. I'm sure someone else on here can elaborate more. Stay away from the Sweet Georgia Brown stuff if you can as the recording levels vary greatly.
Good luck!
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Lonman
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:43 pm |
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Is this for home use mainly?
You could always check into the Supercore - latest edition, it gives a fairly good collection of courty, rock & pop from old to current up to last year or so and ok quality for the most part.
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Cueball
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:45 pm |
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Yup... If you're starting from scratch, pick up a Sound Choice Foundation set. It is a wide variety of standards and others mixed in. Then you can top off your library with Pop Hits Monthly for today's Pop, and Chartbusters (from what a lot of the people say here) for Country. There are lots of other manufacturers out there for all sorts of music. You can try Pocket Songs/Just Tracks for single artists and (especially for) Broadway.
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knightshow
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:52 am |
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I agree with the Supercore set. This has MANY of the Pop Hits and Top Hits most popular.
Chartbuster, SC, Pop Hits... they all have "Best of " for the year, for rock, pop, country...
Well worth it for a starting point!
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UnHinged
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:19 am |
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I’m not sure how this advice will go over here, but…
If you’re on a tight budget and want a mass of songs quick and cheap, look at CAVS with the Nutech set of discs.
I didn’t buy mine from ebay, but this sounds like a great price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAVS-DVD-203G-USB-D ... dZViewItem
They’re available from many regular karaoke dealers.
To that set, I added one called “Magic Tracks” that complimented them nicely, and seemed to have many songs people wanted.
For $35 the dealer even made & sent me a song book including all of these for me to copy and make more.
He tried to do it via e-mail, but I had problems for some reason, that was long ago.
Just a thought.
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mckyj57
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:37 am |
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UnHinged @ Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:19 am wrote: I’m not sure how this advise will go over here, but…
If you’re on a tight budget and want a mass of songs quick and cheap, look at CAVS with the Nutech set of discs.
I spent some money on Nutech three years ago when I first started out. I can tell you that the number of times they have been used are miniscule. Most of the popular songs are on my DK and Supercore collections. I have a number of popular songs on Chartbuster, Pop Hits, and Soundchoice as well. So despite the fact that they pad my collection, I have gotten minimal use of them.
I recommend looking for quality first instead of quantity. If you get the Supercore set to start, virtually everyone will have something to sing. And then you can fill out with more quality tracks.
If you are a home user with just a bit of technical savvy, you could figure out a way to download tracks as people request them. I believe AutoKDJ provides this capability as a one-click kind of thing. Though they charge a huge markup on the song, it is a very nice feature.
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Jerry_S
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:03 pm |
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cueball @ Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:45 pm wrote: Yup... If you're starting from scratch, pick up a Sound Choice Foundation set. It is a wide variety of standards and others mixed in. Then you can top off your library with Pop Hits Monthly for today's Pop, and Chartbusters (from what a lot of the people say here) for Country. There are lots of other manufacturers out there for all sorts of music. You can try Pocket Songs/Just Tracks for single artists and (especially for) Broadway.
When you say a Sound Choice Foundation set... is that actually the name of the set? I'm on ACE Karaoke and don't see anything called a Foundation set.
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Jerry_S
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:31 pm |
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Jerry_S @ Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:05 pm wrote: NEVERMIND... I found it.
Just purchased a Foundation Set #1 on eBay for $288.
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Lonman
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:31 pm |
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Jerry_S @ Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:03 pm wrote: cueball @ Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:45 pm wrote: Yup... If you're starting from scratch, pick up a Sound Choice Foundation set. It is a wide variety of standards and others mixed in. Then you can top off your library with Pop Hits Monthly for today's Pop, and Chartbusters (from what a lot of the people say here) for Country. There are lots of other manufacturers out there for all sorts of music. You can try Pocket Songs/Just Tracks for single artists and (especially for) Broadway. When you say a Sound Choice Foundation set... is that actually the name of the set? I'm on ACE Karaoke and don't see anything called a Foundation set.
You still never mentioned what the intended use is for. I love the SC discs, but again if it's only for home use, the SuperCore is a great buy at $80!
http://www.acekaraoke.com/sscrps06eg.html
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Jerry_S
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:14 pm |
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Lonman @ Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:31 pm wrote: Jerry_S @ Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:03 pm wrote: cueball @ Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:45 pm wrote: Yup... If you're starting from scratch, pick up a Sound Choice Foundation set. It is a wide variety of standards and others mixed in. Then you can top off your library with Pop Hits Monthly for today's Pop, and Chartbusters (from what a lot of the people say here) for Country. There are lots of other manufacturers out there for all sorts of music. You can try Pocket Songs/Just Tracks for single artists and (especially for) Broadway. When you say a Sound Choice Foundation set... is that actually the name of the set? I'm on ACE Karaoke and don't see anything called a Foundation set. You still never mentioned what the intended use is for. I love the SC discs, but again if it's only for home use, the SuperCore is a great buy at $80! http://www.acekaraoke.com/sscrps06eg.html
Sorry...
Actually I've been a mobile DJ for 25 years. I haven't really been in the biz for a couple of years but still have my equipment for family and friend parties. Lately all my friends have been getting in to Karaoke so I'm just adding to my existing DJ system. And being the tech-geek that I am, I purchased a Mackie 6 Channel on stage mixer, and a DBX compressor and now seem to have some pretty sound.
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Jerry_S
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:16 pm |
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Question...
Do you guys tend to run the microphones hot, allowing the singer to pull back if needed?
Or do you run the mic lower in volume, forcing them to sing a little louder. I know that every singer is going to be different, and you have to adjust accordingly.
But if you have a good singer, should you run the mic hotter?
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SCORPION
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:53 pm |
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I started out with 2 cavs 203g players,1 320 gig external hard drive and nutech 1-3,majic tracks,and chartbuster 1-6 scdg.The cavs players are the only players that play the scdg and they play the cdg and other formats.I've used this unit a few times for family functions and at home but I have not road tested it so I can't comment on how dependable it is but so far so good.
When starting out I came to this conclusion to get started.
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mckyj57
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:22 pm |
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Jerry_S @ Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:16 pm wrote: Question...
Do you guys tend to run the microphones hot, allowing the singer to pull back if needed?
Or do you run the mic lower in volume, forcing them to sing a little louder. I know that every singer is going to be different, and you have to adjust accordingly.
But if you have a good singer, should you run the mic hotter?
I run it a little bit hotter for tenors and women. Emphasis on little bit. But I also use compression, and my tendency is to keep things relatively hot and turn up the compression ratio to prevent overload.
For bass/baritone singers, like myself, I keep it a bit less hot as proximity effect is a big part of our repertoire. Got to get those growly gutturals going.
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Babs
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:10 am |
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Jerry_S @ Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:16 pm wrote: Question...
Do you guys tend to run the microphones hot, allowing the singer to pull back if needed?
Or do you run the mic lower in volume, forcing them to sing a little louder. I know that every singer is going to be different, and you have to adjust accordingly.
But if you have a good singer, should you run the mic hotter?
Wow this is a question with several different answers. For me it depends mostly on the singer. My finger is always on the knob, so to speak, until they start singing. I may have a whisperer who is afraid to put the mic to their mouth or a screamer who thinks the next state needs to hear them sing. If the singer knows how to use the mic properly I would consider running the mic a bit hot other than that I'm controlling the volume not leaving it up to them. I would say the majority of people do not know how to adjust themselves with the mic. It really has nothing to do with if they are a good singer or not.
Rarely can I get a singer to sing louder if I lower the volume. If they are pointing the mic in the wrong direction turning the volume up is not going to help. Teaching people how to hold the mic has a better result. Now some people just don't want to be heard and if you turn up the volume they'll just pull the mic farther away and if you turn the volume down they won't sing louder.. If they won't put the mic to their mouth I have a talk with them. There is no reason to sing if no one can hear you.
(FYI) Most singers I'll set so you can hear their voice just over the music. Now if they are tone deaf and the listeners are holding their ears in pain I'll mix their voice into the music.
Teaching people how to hold the mic and where to sing into it is your first challenge. Every singer is different and learning how to set sound comes with experience. It will become easier the more you do it. I hope this answered your question.
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6 String
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:38 am |
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I got the Supercore set to start with too. Very well produced discs. Did they only ever do that one set? I wonder why they are not making regular discs, they were very good.
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mckyj57
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:52 am |
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6 String @ Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:38 pm wrote: I got the Supercore set to start with too. Very well produced discs. Did they only ever do that one set? I wonder why they are not making regular discs, they were very good.
My understanding is that it is a set of remarketed songs done every year. They are produced by Pop Hits, Pioneer (for older songs), Legends/Sunfly, and even Soundchoice, then rights purchased and remarketed. I
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Lonman
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:59 am |
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mckyj57 @ Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:52 am wrote: 6 String @ Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:38 pm wrote: I got the Supercore set to start with too. Very well produced discs. Did they only ever do that one set? I wonder why they are not making regular discs, they were very good. My understanding is that it is a set of remarketed songs done every year. They are produced by Pop Hits, Pioneer (for older songs), Legends/Sunfly, and even Soundchoice, then rights purchased and remarketed. I
Which Sound Choice songs? That would be interesting as their studio manager said they do not do compilation sets with other manus like this.
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mckyj57
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:26 am |
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Lonman @ Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:59 pm wrote: mckyj57 @ Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:52 am wrote: 6 String @ Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:38 pm wrote: I got the Supercore set to start with too. Very well produced discs. Did they only ever do that one set? I wonder why they are not making regular discs, they were very good. My understanding is that it is a set of remarketed songs done every year. They are produced by Pop Hits, Pioneer (for older songs), Legends/Sunfly, and even Soundchoice, then rights purchased and remarketed. I Which Sound Choice songs? That would be interesting as their studio manager said they do not do compilation sets with other manus like this.
I think some of the same ones that they remarketed to American Idol:
Superman, Five for Fighting
Black Velvet -- Alannah Myles
What's Up -- 4 Non-Blondes
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