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 Post subject: What Do You Think?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:18 am 
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I recently had a new logo done for our company and would like to know what others think of the logo

www.freewebs.com/geminikaraoke


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Looks like a basic New Times Roman font on top of a graphic backgorund. Pretty elementary! That's just my opinion! Sorry, nothing special...

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Ttown, he's talking about the one lower, I think. The one with Gemini all fancy.

Graphic looked pretty good...

Some hints, if you're open-minded enough to take them:

* you should lose the midi sound. I was trying to concentrate and that annoying music just made me click the ol' close "X" button on the upper right screen. Alhough in a second visit I DID find the stop button on the bottom of your page.

Your sentence structure on your page is off.

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"PLEASE NOTE OUR SHOW RAN BY GEMINI KARAOKE NOT THE ESTABLISHMENT WE PERFORM AT
THEREFORE ALL SINGERS ARE EXPECTED TO ABIDE BY OUR RULES WHICH IS LIST IN THE FRONT OF EACH BOOK. THOSE WHO DONT WILL NOT SING"


You might want to change " OUR SHOW RAN" to "our show IS ran", put a comman after "Gemini Karaoke", and on the second sentence, change "LIST" to LISTED.

I didn't click on any of your options... just an impression from your initial home page.


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OKAY.....let's begin our language lesson for the day.

NOT "OUR SHOW RAN"

and MATT NOT "OUR SHOW IS RAN" either!!!!! G.E.D.?????

Instead, try "OUR SHOW IS RUN BY..."

The site is unfortunately full of gramatttttiKle- Air-Oars.

Spellcheck is a good, no GREAT EYE-DEE-YA.......

The layout is okay and the graphics are decent. I hope you didn't pay too much for it. You can build a better one using photobucket IMO.


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GED?

What's wrong with "our show is ran by"

Not the language I would use, but it is proper.

If it was me I'd say "Gemini Karaoke's shows are not ran by the venue".

I was just pointing out the obvious.

Thanks JReynolds... you're really a piece of work!


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Our logo was created by Western Assc. I think visually it is eyes catching .. and ....yes I was talking about the logo below not the website banner..LOL


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knightshow @ Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:32 am wrote:
GED?

What's wrong with "our show is ran by"

Not the language I would use, but it is proper.

If it was me I'd say "Gemini Karaoke's shows are not ran by the venue".

I was just pointing out the obvious.

Thanks JReynolds... you're really a piece of work!


Actually, MAtt, it is NOT correct, grammatically.
What it should be is:
"Our show is run by"
and
"Gemini Karaoke's shows are not run by the venue".
The word "ran", in your usage, is past tense, while the rest of the sentence is written in present tense. They just don't "jive" together.
Grammatically speaking, you cannot mix tenses within the same sentence.
The word "run" is present tense and therefore "jives" with the present tense of the rest of the sentence.
Hope that makes sense.

Oh, and JRenolds could have been much more diplomatic in his correction.
The "GED?" comment was both unneccessary and insulting.

I have a "GED" because I left school before I graduated and did not receive my diploma. The GED could be done after hours in the evenings, while I worked, raised my family, etc.
In order to get a "real" diploma, I would have had to go to school for another complete year to get one math course that the school neglected to make sure that I had, way back in grade 9.
Sorry, but I wasn't going to waste an entire year for a one hour course in the middle of the day and therefore not be able to get a job (the school schedule would not allow it) and not be able to pay my rent, buy food, etc. You get the idea.
Having said that, when I wanted to upgrade my skills at the local college, I was assessed as possessing beyond university level English. Their scale didn't go high enough. LOL
My English skills are WELL BEYOND what most students graduating high school with a "real" diploma possess.
So the moral of the story is, "It's all just paperwork".


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Grammatically speaking, you cannot mix tenses within the same sentence.


But if I saw him run the show, wouldn't I be contradicting this statement?

And if he ran the show well, it would be a well run show!
Or, if he runs the show well, it will be a well run show!

Is he saying that if the venue ran the show, then it would be run badly?

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GeminiMALE40 @ Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:32 am wrote:
Our logo was created by Western Assc. I think visually it is eyes catching .. and ....yes I was talking about the logo below not the website banner..LOL


It a BMP file and loads very slowly..

For GODs sake, change it..

http://www.freewebs.com/geminikaraoke/n ... poster.bmp


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OK so I just had a look at the site. The logo is very nice.
I know you didn't ask for any other critques, but I'm jumping in with both feet hoping they won't get cut off. LOL
The banner at the top of each page with the clickable site menu should be thinner. It's far too thick and takes up much of the web page resluting in extra scrolling.
The over all design is fairly good and it seems easy to navigate but somewhat slow to load.
On your pricing policy page, you have at the top:
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"Below is a list of our services and prices. There are no special rates or discounts for anyone"

Think about dropping the "There are no special rates or discounts for anyone" part. It can turn off potential clients.
Clients like to think they are special. Telling them right off the bat that they aren't is not good policy, IMHO. You can always tell them that personally later, if they ask.
Also, you say:
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Light & Special effects included $200.00

Is that $200 extra if the lights are included or is it $200 total if you include the lights?
You could say something like this instead: "Please add an extra $200 if you wish to include our light show." That way it's completely clear what it's costing.
On your acknowledgements page:
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Im looking forward to the future...2008!!!!

2008 is nearly over. Try dropping the year. That way your page is always up to date ind stays timeless! :)
Rules Page:
Is there any way you could make your rules seem less harsh?\
Not to be mean, but if I was presented a set of rules like that I would probably get up and leave.
Try not to come off as the Karaoke Dictator.
We're all here to have fun. Try to present it that way if you feel you absolutely must have rules printed out
If you want a copy of some rules I have, I would be more than happy to send them to you for ideas.
I gave up posting my rules and putting them in my books because people never read them anyways and it tended to make it seem like I was overly harsh.

I mean, do you really think the half cut ditzie chick is going to read all the rules before she looks for a song to sing? NO! She just wants to sing her song.

It's rare when issues come up, but I deal with them immediately when they do and the singers learn really quickly. I can pretty much tell who the possible screamers/mic swingers may be when they come up, if I don't already know them (Usually the pushy rowdy guys).
I just quietly warn them not to yell into or swing the mics. When I tell them that it could blow my speakers, they amazingly get it.
What young guy hasn't blown a decent set of speakers in his day and realized what a bummer and how expensive it could be?
They KNOW they don't want to pay for YOURS.

Ok Now for the really bad news. Please don't get me wrong. I'n NOT trying to insult you or hurt your feelings. Please take this contructively.
Ok, here goes:
You REALLY need some one with EXCELLENT English skills to edit your site, particularly your rules page.
You run a professional business and you need to make it APPEAR so as well.
With the poor English throughout your site, your business comes off as an amatuer operation run by someone who isn't as educated as he should be.
Now, I'm not saying that is really the case.
I KNOW IT'S NOT!
But you need to make everyone else realize it too.
First impressions are EVERYTHING.
If a person comes to your site and has to wade through all the grammatical and spelling errors, it's a waste of their time, and they may leave, never to return.
It would be well worth the time, effort, and money, if spent, to get it edited by someone who KNOWS what they are doing.
It could make the difference between gaining more clients or losing them.
Now I know you didn't ask for a site critque, and I apologize profusely if I overstepped my bounds.
I only wish to help you develop your business to its full potential.
I hope you at least see some value in what I have said.
Good luck to you.
Cheers!


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Murrlyn @ Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:46 am wrote:
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Grammatically speaking, you cannot mix tenses within the same sentence.


But if I saw him run the show, wouldn't I be contradicting this statement?

And if he ran the show well, it would be a well run show!
Or, if he runs the show well, it will be a well run show!

Is he saying that if the venue ran the show, then it would be run badly?

:mrgreen:


As you apparently know, there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rules in English. More so than in any other language, and they often don't even make sense, as you so kindly pointed out.
I was trying to simplify for the sake of my (and his) sanity.
I apologize if I overdid it. ;)
LOL
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No, not at all. You was quite correct to point out that "our show is ran by" were not proper. I is just Richarding with you. :mrgreen: How's your sanity now! :angel:


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Okay, SO SSAHWEEEEEEEE Matt, the JED comment was uncalled for- i mean GED...DANG THIS KEYBOARD!!!!

....In jest and was just playin and rannin around in da sandbox- hope youz guys unnastand!

Nothing personal really....go ahead' take a jab back (NOT ALL OF YOU!!) but Matt let it loose and show me you're a piece of verbal art as well!!! :wave: J.R.


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GeminiMALE40 @ Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:32 am wrote:
Our logo was created by Western Assc. I think visually it is eyes catching .. and ....yes I was talking about the logo below not the website banner..LOL


Um.......shouldn't that be "eye catching" instead of "eyes catching"? I need clarification boyz, living on a south pacific island full of mostly asians is really ruining my english skillz...too much da kine, da beach, da sunshine, etc.... :wave: J.R.

I'll just shut up now before i get DA BAN! :withstupid:


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I think the new logo is professional looking. It kind of reminds me of "American Idol".
In the intro of their show they have the sihouette of a singer with a blue background and bursting effects behind the singer.

The title portion is a little distorted on my computer (Gemini Karaoke). The bleeding effect on the first "a" in karaoke is the worst. It looks like water damage. Everything besides the title looks crisp and clean. I think the effect is cool, don't get me wrong. Maybe just have them scale it back a bit. It makes it hard to read.

I agree with Diafel about the grammar and friendliness aspect. One of the first places people will look is your prices. When I read the header on that page it stirred a negative emotion. In marketing a lot of the time they'll suggest not posting prices. The most important thing is to get them to call. If your bottom line price is solid you can let them know that on the phone. Making people feel special is important. Maybe even raise your prices slightly say $50 and then when they negotiate with you, you can give them a discount.

I'll discount for things like location (if I don't have to drive far), if they sign for more than one gig, if I can negotiate an extra hour ( if they are looking for a 4 hour gig and I can talk them into 5 hours instead because I gave them an over all discount. This puts more money in my pocket.) I'll only do this after negotiating the 4 hour gig price first.

Rules - Why post the rules so obviously. You have them listed right next to the HOME PAGE. When someone is shopping for a DJ or KJ their main concern is not your rules when running a show. That is more for the people singing at your shows. If you want the person hiring you to know you hold the right to exclude someone from singing for bad behavior, post that or put it in a contract. If you put them on your website maybe use a different header like "Info for singers". Or list them on the bottom of the page. They are abrasive and unfriendly. This is not the impression you want to give a person hiring you.

Of course this is just my opinion. It's meant to help, not offend. :D

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:shock: :o We all know it's not polite-like and against karaoke forum rulz ta vurbully korect sumwons gramma skilz. My apologies for rannin at da mouth.

Police? Where?? WHO called hawaii 5-0???? bookem dano!


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I'm with Matt, someone advertising the best sounds playing a really REALLY bad example of midi is not going to encourage me to stay...wouldnt bother with fixing grammar folks will be too busy exiting out of the site due to the sound

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Diafel, just reread your posts....HEY you're pretty funny and polite all at the same time! How do ya do it? i'm learnin-like. I'm just rude today i guess....neighbors floor is leaking into our living room on my new tv!!! CONDO's Suckazz.

And don't take the GED joke seriously or personally..... WHO knew? I didn't have a clue by the way yooz ben spellin- all punkchuation korect and kaptalization all poifect!

Once again, sorry for the humorous jab KNIGHTSHOW MATT! Youz nose i luvs ya dood! :)


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I'm so glad that I didn't correct the OP's or any of Matt's grammatical mistakes. Some people would have been all over me for being mean. Funny how some people here are allowed to be critical of others when others aren't given that same privilege. Why should anyone have to know the difference between PAST and PRESENT tense. It's just Karaoke. LOL

Oh Yeah! What the heck is a comman????LOL

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