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Author:  Karen K [ Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:43 pm ]
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Finally, something in the public's favor. No more digital rights management, or putting 'locks' of any kind of media we buy so that we can't actually 'shift' the format for our own use - that means taking Apple music you may have bought in one format and being able to convert it through the use of a software program called "NOTEBOOK" I believe, or something similar (Just heard this on NPR) and then rip it to a CD if you want.

I'm not sure of the exact ramifications this has on format shifting CDGs to computer but I have a feeling there is some inclusion there.
Author:  Jian [ Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:50 pm ]
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I have always consider drm stupid. For every lock, there are dup keys ....
you just need to look around.
Author:  diafel [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:45 am ]
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All DRM was, was a way to annoy honest users and teach them how to pirate. Pirates had no problems circumventing it and honest users who wished to format shift were left trying to learn how (and thereby learn how to pirate).
What the difference is in format shifting between a CDG and a computer and say, a record album and cassette (which we've always been allowed to do - at least in Canada) is beyond me.
Author:  Nlouch [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:16 am ]
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I'm not actually against DRM per se. Just how poorly it was implimented.
Author:  mckyj57 [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:26 am ]
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Nlouch @ Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:16 am wrote:
I'm not actually against DRM per se. Just how poorly it was implimented.

DRM is impossible to implement properly if it is really to do it's job. I you can listen to it or watch it, you can steal it. Therefore, you can't allow easy listening or watching if it is to even begin to be effective.
Author:  Nlouch [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:33 am ]
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But that puts the problem with DRM. The problem is with those who circumvent it for nefarious means.
Author:  mckyj57 [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:09 am ]
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Nlouch @ Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:33 am wrote:
But that puts the problem with DRM. The problem is with those who circumvent it for nefarious means.

Do you think we will cure all disease any time soon? Curing thievery is about as unlikely. 8-)

There is no point to DRM if there is no thievery. And since thievery circumvents DRM every time, there is also no point to DRM.

In addition, DRM actually *caused* thievery. When you bought music with DRM, it was much less convenient to use than when you stole it. Therefore even people who would have bought music stole it so they wouldn't have to deal with DRM.
Author:  Karen K [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:16 am ]
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Yah, I realize it isn't really anything that hasn't been worked around for years and years - as soon as something is created, someone is busy (or has already) found a way to skirt it. I guess my point was that reality has set in for the industry and perhaps they will have to learn to roll with the current technology tide.

BTW, for those with Apple I-tunes, "Noteburner" is the software that you can acquire for about $40 to make your music purchases more useful.
Author:  eben [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:38 am ]
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Well, if you take Apple's iTunes store for example. They removed the DRM, adjusted the prices but they did add one thing. They embed your user information on each song you purchase without DRM. So, if you happen to give it to a friend who puts it on the illegal sharing site, they can trace it back to you. I don't know what legal action they can take but I would be very careful on giving songs out. Format shifting is probably OK to do.
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