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Author:  Blade [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Driverack help
I'm confused....help please.

I'm looking to get a driverack system and can't decide. I don't mind spending the extra money on the 260, but I'm not clear on what the advantages are over the PA and the PX models.

What are the major differences in the (3) models of the DBX Driveracks...PA, PX, and 260. I've tried to decipher the information over the last few days and am just confusing myself more.

Not sure if it matters, but I currently have active speakers and most likely always will.

Thanks again,
Mike
Author:  Lonman [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
The PX is designed specifically for powered speakers, but the PA is just fine with them as well. For karaoke, the 260 is not going to be that much of an improvement over the PA.
Author:  LondonLive [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
If you are using self powered speakers then the added expense for either the PA or 260 version would not be warranted in your situation. The PX version will do all that is needed to optimize your self powered system. The PA version would add a crossover and time alignment for your speakers which neither would be of any advantage to you with self powered speakers. The 260 version adds a real time RTA, which basically means you can monitor the room in Real Time where as the PX and the PA's version of the RTA will only help you in preliminary setup of the room. I believe you can actually split the 260 also meaning you could use half for frontals and half for monitors if you choose to. I believe that would pertain to the EQ section in the 260 also, meaning you could EQ the left separate from the right.
Author:  Lonman [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
LondonLive @ Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:26 pm wrote:
The PA version would add a crossover and time alignment for your speakers which neither would be of any advantage to you with self powered speakers.


Unless he has a powered sub as well. Then the crossover would be beneficial. But if not, then no.
Author:  Blade [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
Funny you should mention the powered sub/subs.

I'm actually looking at posts now for sub information. Sometime, in the future, I will be adding powered subs. I will also be computer based...but that is even further in the future.

I guess I should have mentioned that in the opening post....sorry.
Author:  LondonLive [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
It would depend on the sub then, I use powered subs and I could still use the Driverack PX if I chose to. It just so happened I already had a Driverack PA so I just set it up as a full range output and sent the full range signal to my subs,(which have there own adjustable crossover in them) and then daisy chain up to my uppers which also have there own adjustable crossover in them. So even though I do use the PA version it's only because that is what I already had. I could use the crossover in the Driverack PA, but there would be no real point to it. The only feature I'm lacking that I wish I had would be the full time RTA out of the 260. I can see that as a very useful tool.
Author:  mckyj57 [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
Lonman @ Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:23 pm wrote:
The PX is designed specifically for powered speakers, but the PA is just fine with them as well. For karaoke, the 260 is not going to be that much of an improvement over the PA.

Except that it doesn't have the power-off pop, which is very real on the PA. I haven't lost a speaker yet, but I am getting pretty good at remembering to turn off amps first and siting power cords so they don't get kicked....
Author:  Lonman [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
mckyj57 @ Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:27 pm wrote:
Lonman @ Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:23 pm wrote:
The PX is designed specifically for powered speakers, but the PA is just fine with them as well. For karaoke, the 260 is not going to be that much of an improvement over the PA.

Except that it doesn't have the power-off pop, which is very real on the PA. I haven't lost a speaker yet, but I am getting pretty good at remembering to turn off amps first and siting power cords so they don't get kicked....


Always turn the amps off before anything else & make sure they are cycled down before turning everything else off. Otherwise any piece of gear can give a pop while powering down. Can't blame any piece of gear for a user error..... :wink:
Amps are always the last thing turned on as well when firing up...... :)
Author:  mckyj57 [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
Lonman @ Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:40 pm wrote:
mckyj57 @ Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:27 pm wrote:
Lonman @ Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:23 pm wrote:
The PX is designed specifically for powered speakers, but the PA is just fine with them as well. For karaoke, the 260 is not going to be that much of an improvement over the PA.

Except that it doesn't have the power-off pop, which is very real on the PA. I haven't lost a speaker yet, but I am getting pretty good at remembering to turn off amps first and siting power cords so they don't get kicked....


Always turn the amps off before anything else & make sure they are cycled down before turning everything else off. Otherwise any piece of gear can give a pop while powering down. Can't blame any piece of gear for a user error..... :wink:
Amps are always the last thing turned on as well when firing up...... :)

Yes, I do know this. But if you have a power failure, be it in the service or a breaker, there is nothing you can do. If you aren't careful with cords, you can get those kicked as well. Also, I have two different people running the rig for me and they may not remember as well as I do....

The 260 doesn't have the power-off pop, so at my next opportunity to get one for $500.00 I am probably going to go for it.
Author:  Lonman [ Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
Again, any piece of gear can make a system pop, even the most expensive gear.
Author:  TOMMIE TUNES [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
Sometimes, not always, and I don't why, I always turn my main Amp attenuators all the way down(Carvin-2570), and turn it off last , and STILL sometimes get a scary, very audible POP sound thru my Yamaha Clubs that scares the Hell out of me, but when I power back up everything in the chain is fine. Could STATIC electricity be causing this? :?:
Author:  mckyj57 [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
TOMMIE TUNES @ Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:01 am wrote:
Sometimes, not always, and I don't why, I always turn my main Amp attenuators all the way down(Carvin-2570), and turn it off last , and STILL sometimes get a scary, very audible POP sound thru my Yamaha Clubs that scares the Hell out of me, but when I power back up everything in the chain is fine. Could STATIC electricity be causing this? :?:

You need to turn the amp off first. You turn it ON last.
Author:  TOMMIE TUNES [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
Even if I turn the Amp off first, with the Volume (attenuators) all the way counterclockwise (off), My speakers will still sometimes make a POP sound. Theoretically, their is NO power going into the speakers from the amplifier when it is turned all the way down so why would this still sometimes do this no matter what sequence I power down? ALSO.. My Apologies to the subject poster for me posting nothing about the original question asked. :hug:
Author:  mckyj57 [ Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driverack help
TOMMIE TUNES @ Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:27 am wrote:
Even if I turn the Amp off first, with the Volume (attenuators) all the way counterclockwise (off), My speakers will still sometimes make a POP sound. Theoretically, their is NO power going into the speakers from the amplifier when it is turned all the way down so why would this still sometimes do this no matter what sequence I power down? ALSO.. My Apologies to the subject poster for me posting nothing about the original question asked. :hug:

If you are turning off the amp first -- shouldn't have to change the attenuators -- then that is an amp problem.

I do this:

1) turn down the Main L/R output fader
2) turn off the amp and any powered speakers, then wait 15 seconds or so
3) turn off the main power switch on my rack (mixer, DriveRack, and all the rest)

With my powered Yorkvilles, I have to wait 15 seconds after turning them off or I will get somewhat of a pop. With my Behringer amp and Peavey speakers, I only wait two seconds.
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