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Author:  karaoke koyote [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:39 pm ]
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Before I started my own karaoke business I use to sub for a KJ so he could take other friday night gigs. Anyway, there was a singer there who would always bring regular music CDs to sing karaoke with. The KJ let him do it, so I followed suit, but it always sounded terrible. I've seen this done elsewhere as well, and IMHO it ALWAYS sucks. For this reason I deceided if I ever got my own business I would never do that.

Now I don't mind bad singers, as long as EVERYONE (the non-singing audience included) is having fun, and I just find this annoying. Annoying to the audience who has to listen to this crap, annoying to the actual singers who have the kahones to get up and actually sing and now have to wait for this numbskull to BS his way through what is essentially a straight music track, and annoying to the KJ who has the song on karaoke in his library. I have found that these folks are frequently microphone hogs who don't return the mic when the performance is over, and try to butt in on other singers performances without permission.

For that reason, I don't allow anyone to do this in my show... period, the end. If I'm going to play a music track by request I'll do that. If you want to sing a song, you can do that. What you can't do is sing to a standard music track. No one wants to hear this crap, so out of respect to my singers who are waiting for their chance to actually perform, and my audience who are there for actual performances, I don't allow it.

Needless to say, I have annoyed some people with this, but I always stand my ground.

Am I unique on this?

How do you all feel about it?

What got me into this mode was I had a little "confrontation" with the bar maid's boyfriend who wanted to do this with "the humpty dance" Wednesday night... the guy really got nasty with me... which hasn't really happened to me before... the barmaid is cool, and everythings ok, but hey, its always good to see what other people feel on certain issues.
Author:  ripman8 [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:55 pm ]
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If I have it in karaoke form, no. If I don't have it and it isn't offered in karaoke form, yes. If I don't have it but it is offered in karaoke form, maybe depending. Is it a busy night? Is he/she nice about it? etc etc.

Not sure why you would call it a crap song, and if they are a bad singer, it may actually sound better with the real singer there to back him/her up.
Author:  Lonman [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:56 pm ]
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I require karaoke format cd's if you bring in one of your own.
Author:  karyoker [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:10 pm ]
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Chances are I have it in my DJ library and wouldnt need his cd. I would let him sing with music and harmonize with the original singer. The audience would not like it and he would gradually go to other places. My regs sitting at the bar has a a very big say and when can you start listening to them?

One of my favorite singers and he doesnt come in that often but he brings in Strait backs with no graphics on a flash drive and nails them. I suspect he is a band member from another town but the crowd loves him.
Author:  Bill H. [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:17 pm ]
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Normally no. But there's been a few times with regulars if no karaoke version is available.

Currently I'm allowing a "practically every night" regular sing a Hollywood Undead track. He's a very popular and charismatic singer who helped steer the room in the direction we've taken. He's thoroughly professional, could be fronting a band, and I trust his judgment completely on this stuff.

He's taken the time to get this song down cold. And it works in my room.

And there was a time back when there was no Amy Winehouse in karaoke when I allowed another regular whom I trusted to get it right sing to her tracks.

Not sure why there's no Hollywood Undead in karaoke. Fairly popular stuff with this age group. And actually a rather conventional sounding band in spite of their pretensions.
Author:  karaoke koyote [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:55 pm ]
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ripman8 @ Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:55 pm wrote:
If I have it in karaoke form, no. If I don't have it and it isn't offered in karaoke form, yes. If I don't have it but it is offered in karaoke form, maybe depending. Is it a busy night? Is he/she nice about it? etc etc.

Not sure why you would call it a crap song, and if they are a bad singer, it may actually sound better with the real singer there to back him/her up.


Your assuming that the song is performed in sync with the backing track. Usually, their timing is off, and all you get is garbled mush. :D And don't get me started with rap. In the best of circumstances rap is rarely done well. Trying to rap with the ortiginal rapper is just horrid.
Author:  JoeChartreuse [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:59 pm ]
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It really doesn't matter to me. My mixer includes vocal cancel, if they want, or they can sing with the leads if they are more comfortable. Whatever makes the singer happy.....
Author:  Jian [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:22 am ]
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We use multiplex disc and many of them have original artist vocal. When the song start we always press the L button to mute the vocal. People actually get mad if a KJ forget to mute the vocal. Most singer will demand a restart if the KJ mute the vocal late.

So the answer to your OP is. NO we don't do it.
Author:  knightshow [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:11 am ]
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I had a regular that wanted to sing to the audio cds. All but one of his songs were NOT available on karaoke.

He tried the one on karaoke, the timing threw him, despite it being the same timing as the original disc.

I didn't like doing it, but the audience didn't mind at all. In fact, they looked forward to when it was his turn.

go figure!
Author:  ripman8 [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:22 am ]
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karaoke koyote @ Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:55 am wrote:
ripman8 @ Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:55 pm wrote:
If I have it in karaoke form, no. If I don't have it and it isn't offered in karaoke form, yes. If I don't have it but it is offered in karaoke form, maybe depending. Is it a busy night? Is he/she nice about it? etc etc.

Not sure why you would call it a crap song, and if they are a bad singer, it may actually sound better with the real singer there to back him/her up.


Your assuming that the song is performed in sync with the backing track. Usually, their timing is off, and all you get is garbled mush. :D And don't get me started with rap. In the best of circumstances rap is rarely done well. Trying to rap with the ortiginal rapper is just horrid.


I'll agree with you on the rap, if he/she is off with the recorded vocals, it's going to sound like chalk squeaking on a chalkboard. Anybody still use those?
Author:  Bill H. [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:31 am ]
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karaoke koyote @ Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:55 pm wrote:
And don't get me started with rap. In the best of circumstances rap is rarely done well. Trying to rap with the original rapper is just horrid.


Actually the genre that works best in my room is rap. As a KJ I actively promote it. Every room is different though...

As a group the ladies are better at it than the men. Maybe because they don't get as trashed.

Rappers are the same as singers. Some are good at it and some aren't. It's karaoke.

I don't think I would allow someone to try rapping over the original though. I totally understand your point there.
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