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| Author: | donwheeler [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
I just purchased a used Vocopro DVG-909K dual deck karaoke system. My only previous experience with a karaoke system is my Vocopro Bravo. I wanted a system to interface with my home stereo system. I have a question related to connecting the DVG-909K to my rather old Pioneer Surround Sound (not digital) receiver. When playing a karaoke CD+G, using RCA cables, I am able to see the graphics on my 5 inch Vocopro display, and the music plays fine on my stereo speakers; but I am unable to get the microphone to work (can't get the vocal to sound on the speakers). I'm using a microphone and cable that works on my Bravo, so they are good. I've tried the 1/4" jacks and XLR jacks on the rear of the DVG-909K with no luck. A couple things that may come into play are: 1. Will the DVG-909K work with an older non-digital receiver, or do I need to interface it with a digital receiver? 2. There is a SETUP mode on the DVG-909K. I've dabbled with various settings but they don't solve the lack of microphone. There is a setting called DOWNMIX that will not let me navigate to items called Center, Rear, Subwoofer, Delay,Test Tone. Being a novice, I just want to exhaust any technical things I may be doing wrong, or I'm unaware of, before having to send it off for service. Any comments and/or questions would be appreciated. Thanks, Don in Maine |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
Don't know anything about that particular model as far as any special internal settings, but sounds to me you got one with a bad mic input section - being it's used. If the player part works, you might want to consider just a small mixer. The mic & player will connect to the mixer, then to the receiver. Age of the receiver doesn't play a factor here as far as the mics & actually digital outputs on players typically don't work with the mics anyway, they are for the music only. Something like this http://www.zzounds.com/item--ALEMM6FX Just out of curiosity, you said you wanted it to interface with your stereo? The Bravo you currently have has both audio & video outputs to connect to an external TV & your stereo. Did you just want a smaller player? |
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| Author: | knightshow [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
some players can't use wireless mics... something about the wireless part messes with them. Try it with a standard mic... |
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| Author: | jamkaraoke [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
REFER TO THE OWNERS MANUAL I would think if you're getting the music to play there has to be something you're missing with the settings , possibly a volume knob for the vocals ? |
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| Author: | knightshow [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
Jam, many of the wireless mics don't work hooked up to the players. There was somthing like that posted on here a few years ago! |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
knightshow @ Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:20 pm wrote: Jam, many of the wireless mics don't work hooked up to the players. There was somthing like that posted on here a few years ago!
I remember JVC/RSQ players had issues with wireless mics. But I don't think the OP is talking about a wireless. |
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| Author: | srnitynow [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
Look at the 1/4" plug that you are putting into the player, see if it has 2 rings, or 1. If it has 2 rings, try a cord with 1 ring. I had the same problem with a different type of home player, when I got a better mic for the player, the guy at the store gave me a cord with 2 rings, didn't work, exchanged it for a cord with 1 ring, worked perfectly. Maybe you'll be as lucky as I was. Rosario |
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| Author: | JoeChartreuse [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
srnitynow @ Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:35 pm wrote: Look at the 1/4" plug that you are putting into the player, see if it has 2 rings, or 1. If it has 2 rings, try a cord with 1 ring. I had the same problem with a different type of home player, when I got a better mic for the player, the guy at the store gave me a cord with 2 rings, didn't work, exchanged it for a cord with 1 ring, worked perfectly. Maybe you'll be as lucky as I was.
Rosario That's a smiley. The double ring is for stereo. the single for mono ( what is used for a mic). Actually, you could just rewire the double as a single using the tip for hi, the the large botom for low, and skipping the middle ring. |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
JoeChartreuse @ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:21 pm wrote: srnitynow @ Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:35 pm wrote: Look at the 1/4" plug that you are putting into the player, see if it has 2 rings, or 1. If it has 2 rings, try a cord with 1 ring. I had the same problem with a different type of home player, when I got a better mic for the player, the guy at the store gave me a cord with 2 rings, didn't work, exchanged it for a cord with 1 ring, worked perfectly. Maybe you'll be as lucky as I was. Rosario That's a smiley. The double ring is for stereo. the single for mono ( what is used for a mic). Actually, you could just rewire the double as a single using the tip for hi, the the large botom for low, and skipping the middle ring. Actually when used on mics, the double ring is a balanced connection vs the single ring unbalanced connection. Which both can be used for mics. The double ring (TRS) is the 1/4" equivalent to the XLR plug. Using a TRS balanced plug in a TS (single ring) unbalanced jack can sometimes affect the connection and not produce any signal. |
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| Author: | donwheeler [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
The three cords I have all have one ring. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I fairly convinced I need to have it serviced. Don |
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| Author: | donwheeler [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
The mixer idea/solution sounds pretty good. I may head in that direction. The karaoke I do is primarily at home. The Bravo unit takes time to setup. I want some thing I can walk up to and just turn it on. Thanks for taking the time to share your advise. If I don't take the mixer approach, I'm fairly convinced I need to have it serviced. Don |
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| Author: | fsapienjr [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
Don't know anything about your little player. I have a vocopro KJ-7800 PRO mixer. It has many outputs. One of them, the one I tried first before reading the manual, is the AV out. This output plays the music, but the mic does not come through. I have two other outputs that the mic does work on, the Record out, and the Un-Balanced out. Of course it has the standard mixer to amp XLR outputs. Just some info, Felix the KJ 
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| Author: | JoeChartreuse [ Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
Lonman @ Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:50 pm wrote: JoeChartreuse @ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:21 pm wrote: srnitynow @ Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:35 pm wrote: Look at the 1/4" plug that you are putting into the player, see if it has 2 rings, or 1. If it has 2 rings, try a cord with 1 ring. I had the same problem with a different type of home player, when I got a better mic for the player, the guy at the store gave me a cord with 2 rings, didn't work, exchanged it for a cord with 1 ring, worked perfectly. Maybe you'll be as lucky as I was. Rosario That's a smiley. The double ring is for stereo. the single for mono ( what is used for a mic). Actually, you could just rewire the double as a single using the tip for hi, the the large botom for low, and skipping the middle ring. Actually when used on mics, the double ring is a balanced connection vs the single ring unbalanced connection. Which both can be used for mics. The double ring (TRS) is the 1/4" equivalent to the XLR plug. Using a TRS balanced plug in a TS (single ring) unbalanced jack can sometimes affect the connection and not produce any signal. You are right, of course, and I stand corrected. I wasn't thinking of the plugs that way, because I rarely run into that usage- mostly for the reason you cited above. Almost all the balanced mic inputs that I run into now are XLR. I DO remember double rings used that way back several years ago... |
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| Author: | srnitynow [ Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
Thanks for the apology, Joe. Apology accepted. Rosario |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
JoeChartreuse @ Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:53 am wrote: Lonman @ Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:50 pm wrote: JoeChartreuse @ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:21 pm wrote: srnitynow @ Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:35 pm wrote: Look at the 1/4" plug that you are putting into the player, see if it has 2 rings, or 1. If it has 2 rings, try a cord with 1 ring. I had the same problem with a different type of home player, when I got a better mic for the player, the guy at the store gave me a cord with 2 rings, didn't work, exchanged it for a cord with 1 ring, worked perfectly. Maybe you'll be as lucky as I was. Rosario That's a smiley. The double ring is for stereo. the single for mono ( what is used for a mic). Actually, you could just rewire the double as a single using the tip for hi, the the large botom for low, and skipping the middle ring. Actually when used on mics, the double ring is a balanced connection vs the single ring unbalanced connection. Which both can be used for mics. The double ring (TRS) is the 1/4" equivalent to the XLR plug. Using a TRS balanced plug in a TS (single ring) unbalanced jack can sometimes affect the connection and not produce any signal. You are right, of course, and I stand correcter. I wasn't thinking of the plugs that way, because I rarely run into that usage- mostly for the reason you cited above. Almost all the balanced mic inputs that I run into now are XLR. I DO remember double rings used that way back several years... They are also used for balanced line connections & the TRS end for insert cables going to 2 TS ends. |
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| Author: | JoeChartreuse [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Vocopro DVG-909K No Sound From Microphone |
Lonman @ Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:21 pm wrote: JoeChartreuse @ Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:53 am wrote: Lonman @ Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:50 pm wrote: JoeChartreuse @ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:21 pm wrote: srnitynow @ Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:35 pm wrote: Look at the 1/4" plug that you are putting into the player, see if it has 2 rings, or 1. If it has 2 rings, try a cord with 1 ring. I had the same problem with a different type of home player, when I got a better mic for the player, the guy at the store gave me a cord with 2 rings, didn't work, exchanged it for a cord with 1 ring, worked perfectly. Maybe you'll be as lucky as I was. Rosario That's a smiley. The double ring is for stereo. the single for mono ( what is used for a mic). Actually, you could just rewire the double as a single using the tip for hi, the the large botom for low, and skipping the middle ring. Actually when used on mics, the double ring is a balanced connection vs the single ring unbalanced connection. Which both can be used for mics. The double ring (TRS) is the 1/4" equivalent to the XLR plug. Using a TRS balanced plug in a TS (single ring) unbalanced jack can sometimes affect the connection and not produce any signal. You are right, of course, and I stand correcter. I wasn't thinking of the plugs that way, because I rarely run into that usage- mostly for the reason you cited above. Almost all the balanced mic inputs that I run into now are XLR. I DO remember double rings used that way back several years... They are also used for balanced line connections & the TRS end for insert cables going to 2 TS ends. Show off.....  
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