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Author:  karyoker [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:40 am ]
Post subject:  Flutter
With a CFX12 I had typical flutter like when driving EFX too high. I am running EFX 1 to a Microverb4 which has the bar indicators for input level. Returned to EFX2. On the strips I am running the EFX send at unity. I had to turn EFX send down to where the bars were at only about 50% on the input to get rid of the flutter.

For some reason I am having trouble with gain structure as far as EFX send.
Author:  Lonman [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flutter
karyoker @ Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:40 am wrote:
With a CFX12 I had typical flutter like when driving EFX too high. I am running EFX 1 to a Microverb4 which has the bar indicators for input level. Returned to EFX2. On the strips I am running the EFX send at unity. I had to turn EFX send down to where the bars were at only about 50% on the input to get rid of the flutter.

For some reason I am having trouble with gain structure as far as EFX send.


Why are you running the EFX 1 send to the EFX 2 return? Run it to the EFX 1 return - or if you have open channels, run them back to a channel strip. But will work with the return for now.
On the try setting the input at 12:oclock to begin. Run the mix wide open & output to 3/4-wide open.
On the channels you want to effect, turn the EFX 1 knob up to about 9-10 oclock.
On the Master EFX 1 send (right above the internal effects section) turn up to 12 oclock. The EFX 1 return (next to the meters) turn up to about 12 oclock.

See how this does. If the input meter on the Microverb jump into the red, turn the input down a bit & you can compensate by the output knob & EFX 1 return.
Author:  karyoker [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Flutter
Lonnie I dont remember but I think the internal EFX are controlled with EFX2 which is why I was using that return.

My preferred way is returning EFX thru a spare channel strip but I am training hosts right now that dont even understand sub sends let alone EFX.

In fact if I dont go to my show for a few weeks the sound deteriorates Do you have this problem with your fll in hosts?
Author:  Lonman [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flutter
karyoker @ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:54 pm wrote:
Lonnie I dont remember but I think the internal EFX are controlled with EFX2 which is why I was using that return.

The internal effects are controlled by EFX 2 send. If you plug the returns from EFX 1 send from your Microverb into the EFX 2 return, you are going to be piggy backing the external & internal effects - possibly why you are getting the flutter. Patch the Alesis into the EFX 1 return. If you don't want to use the internal effects, you can just bypass.

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My preferred way is returning EFX thru a spare channel strip but I am training hosts right now that dont even understand sub sends let alone EFX.


Ugh. I hate training!!!!

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In fact if I dont go to my show for a few weeks the sound deteriorates Do you have this problem with your fll in hosts?


Sure. But that just makes you look THAT much better lol!
Author:  karyoker [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Flutter
Thanks Lonnie I knew you could straighten me out. Sometimes you cant see the forest for the trees and one over complicates a simple problem.
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