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| Author: | AQUACOP [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | What would your speaker choice be? |
I am buying a new Mackie PPM1008 1600W power mixer. Which 15" 2way speakers would you buy and why? I want to stomp my competition in sound Quality. I'm thinking about Mackie's passive S215's Thanks in advance...Rick |
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| Author: | LondonLive [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
If your goal is to "stomp your competition in sound quality" then you might want to rethink your power source to start with. I don't find the Mackie PMP1008 specifications to be to intimidating. Especially if your going to use S215 speakers with it as they are rated at 8 ohms. I think you will find you are short on power. (Both channels loaded and driven at 1 kHz.) Peak output power @ 4 Ω: 2 x 800 W peak Average output power @ 4 Ω: 2 x 400 W rms, 1% THD 2 x 500 W rms, 3% THD Average output power @ 8 Ω: 2 x 250 W rms, 1% THD 2 x 300 W rms, 3% THD If your compitition happens to be using a Yamaha P7000S amplifier http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=480827 A Yamaha MG166CX mixer http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=630257 And A pair of Yamaha S115 V speakers http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=600427 The compitition will literally be running three times more clean, stable power than you would have. They also would have a much nicer mixer and very competent speakers as well. They would have done all this and only spent less than 100 dollars more than you did. Probably even less with some smart shopping. By the way the specs on the Yamaha Amplifier are: Power Output Level (Rated Power) THD + N = 1% 8 Ω/STEREO 750 W × 2 4 Ω/STEREO 1100 W × 2 8 Ω/BRIDGE 2200 W × 1 20 Hz – 20 kHz THD + N = 0.1% 8 Ω/STEREO 700 W × 2 8 Ω/BRIDGE 1900 W × 1 4 Ω/STEREO 950 W × 2 This is just one alternative, I was going by the mixer you chose had eight mic pre amps, built in fx and I think compression. There are many other choices out there. |
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| Author: | Micky [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
AQUACOP @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:36 am wrote: I am buying a new Mackie PPM1008 1600W power mixer. Which 15" 2way speakers would you buy and why? I want to stomp my competition in sound Quality. I'm thinking about Mackie's passive S215's
Thanks in advance...Rick The best sound quality for me is Electro-Voice: http://www.electrovoice.com/products/252.html You may not have enough power to drive the ZX5 but in case you feel like upgrading your amp 
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| Author: | jamkaraoke [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
How much $tomp are you talking about $$$$$$$$$$ |
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| Author: | JoeChartreuse [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
Micky @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:49 am wrote: AQUACOP @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:36 am wrote: I am buying a new Mackie PPM1008 1600W power mixer. Which 15" 2way speakers would you buy and why? I want to stomp my competition in sound Quality. I'm thinking about Mackie's passive S215's Thanks in advance...Rick The best sound quality for me is Electro-Voice: http://www.electrovoice.com/products/252.html You may not have enough power to drive the ZX5 but in case you feel like upgrading your amp Here Micky and I agree 500%. Be sure of your amp choice, then hit the EV site. You won't be disappointed. |
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| Author: | EElvis [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
I have a pair of the electrovoice speakers with peavey pv-2600 amp. I also have a pair of peavey sp2x's with peavey pv-2600 amp. ........................................................................................................ My Favorite are the yorkville nx55b speakers, 550 watts per speaker with the amp built in, and are lighter and have better sound than either of the other setups. |
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| Author: | Bazza [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
Anyone use Yamaha speakers? Pros/Cons on the BR or V series? |
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| Author: | jamkaraoke [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
Barry -- I used a pair of Yamaha SV115 for a few years and I would say they are considered by many to be a work horse and a GREAT Mobile KJ /DJ speaker. For the money one of the BEST BUYS ...if there was such a category in Pro Audio. Are there better... Sure I don't think you could find 2 KJ/DJ/Musicians to say something negative about them ! The BR series is a lower or entry level grade of speaker |
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| Author: | LondonLive [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
Micky @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:49 am wrote: AQUACOP @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:36 am wrote: I am buying a new Mackie PPM1008 1600W power mixer. Which 15" 2way speakers would you buy and why? I want to stomp my competition in sound Quality. I'm thinking about Mackie's passive S215's Thanks in advance...Rick The best sound quality for me is Electro-Voice: http://www.electrovoice.com/products/252.html You may not have enough power to drive the ZX5 but in case you feel like upgrading your amp Micky my friend and now fellow Allen Heath user, obviously there are better speakers, better amps, better mixers. I was trying to keep the price at roughly what OP was already intending on spending to give them an idea of bang for the buck. Hooking EV ZX5's up to a Mackie PPM1008 is kind of like putting leather interior in a Chevy Vega. (my apologies to any leather interior clad Vega owners out there) We know you love your EV's and we all know I love my Yorkvilles, but neither one fits the situation. Besides when the OP mentioned "stomping their competition" we know they weren't talking about us.  Quote: My Favorite are the yorkville nx55b speakers, 550 watts per speaker with the amp built in, and are lighter and have better sound than either of the other setups. I'm a Yorkville fan myself, I wouldn't trade my U15P's for nothing, well within reason. Quote: Anyone use Yamaha speakers? Pros/Cons on the BR or V series?
As jamkaraoke mentioned they are just a good cost effective workhorse type speaker. You could get by with the BR if all you did was small venue's but for the price difference the added power rating and the peace of mind that goes with it, I would go with the S***V series. |
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| Author: | stogie [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
The Yamaha S115V are very good sounding speakers. The problem is they are REALLY heavy. You're going to spend more, but your back will thank you with the Electro Voice Zx or Sx series. Peavey Impulse are work horses too and lighter than plywood or particle board speakers. I've been reading a lot of good comments about FBT and RCF speakers. QSC is coming out with some compact, powered speakers in a few months that have had some great comments when they had their debut recently in front of an audience of DJs. I own Electro Voice and I think it would be hard to find better sounding, better quality speakers. I've read MANY positive comments about all Yorkville products too. |
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| Author: | karaoke koyote [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
jamkaraoke @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:11 pm wrote: Barry -- I used a pair of Yamaha SV115 for a few years and I would say they are considered by many to be a work horse and a GREAT Mobile KJ /DJ speaker.
For the money one of the BEST BUYS ...if there was such a category in Pro Audio. Are there better... Sure I don't think you could find 2 KJ/DJ/Musicians to say something negative about them ! The BR series is a lower or entry level grade of speaker I used the Yamahas, and they are awesome. They also weigh frickin' 61lbs! I'm now using the Eon 315 POWERED speakers which weight 35lbs, and they sound as good if not better then my yamahas. So, not only are they lighter (Which IS a factor to consider if you're mobile), but my rack is light too as I was able to take out my amp! |
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| Author: | AQUACOP911 [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
OK, first of all thanks for all the replies!!!! Here is what i'm thinking about now......Please tell me what you think. 1-Yamaha MG166CX Mixer 1-Yamaha 7000s AMP 1pair- EV ZX5 speakers Will this do the trick??????? Rick |
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| Author: | timberlea [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
Yorkville NX55( 550w 12") or NX750 (750w 15") with Yorkville subs (any of them). |
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| Author: | stogie [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
That setup would kick serious booty. You would be the envy of many, but I don't know if that amp has quite enough juice to provide adequate headroom. Those speakers can handle a couple hundred people easily or more depending on the room. Those speakers are rated 600/1200/2400 so ideally you would want an amp that can dissipate at least 1200 watts per channel @ 8 ohms. the Yamaha puts out 700 watts per channel which is certainly respectable and can drive those speakers, but more power would be better. It also will allow you to add a subwoofer later from the same amp if you should need it. |
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| Author: | AQUACOP911 [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
Speakers....Check Mixer........Check Amp.......Still shopping??? |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
stogie @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:51 pm wrote: That setup would kick serious booty. You would be the envy of many, but I don't know if that amp has quite enough juice to provide adequate headroom. Those speakers can handle a couple hundred people easily or more depending on the room.
Those speakers are rated 600/1200/2400 so ideally you would want an amp that can dissipate at least 1200 watts per channel @ 8 ohms. the Yamaha puts out 700 watts per channel which is certainly respectable and can drive those speakers, but more power would be better. It also will allow you to add a subwoofer later from the same amp if you should need it. That amp would be more than adequate if he bridges it to both speakers and not run in stereo or dual mono mode. |
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| Author: | Bill H. [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
The P7000s is more than enough amp for those speakers. It'll throw out 1600 watts a side at 20ms bursts and not clip. I have that amp and it has all kinds of headroom above it's RMS rating. |
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| Author: | stogie [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
Please email me - rpstogie @ yahoo . com I have a very good source for you for this equipment. I've purchased several times from them and they will take very good care of you. They will also give you an excellent price and several amplifier recommendations. I'll post it here if it's allowed. Northernlightfx.com Ask for Ben, and tell him The Wizard of OZ from ODJT sent you. |
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| Author: | Micky [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
OK, I admit it, I really love my EV But, I did try the Yorkville NX55 and loved them, very generous bass and also very flat response but where I tested my EV, they didn't have Yorkville, these 2 brands are usually not sold in the same store, what I was told...
It's kind funny seeing the Canadian guy promoting EV, an American brand and an American guy promoting Yorkville, a Canadian brand  Well, I guess there's no more frontier 
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| Author: | Micky [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would your speaker choice be? |
stogie @ Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:28 pm wrote: The Yamaha S115V are very good sounding speakers. The problem is they are REALLY heavy. You're going to spend more, but your back will thank you with the Electro Voice Zx or Sx series. Peavey Impulse are work horses too and lighter than plywood or particle board speakers. I've been reading a lot of good comments about FBT and RCF speakers.
QSC is coming out with some compact, powered speakers in a few months that have had some great comments when they had their debut recently in front of an audience of DJs. I own Electro Voice and I think it would be hard to find better sounding, better quality speakers. I've read MANY positive comments about all Yorkville products too. You are right, nice reading out there about RCF but since Loud Technologies (Mackie) loss the company, yes, the Italian's bought it back... it has not been the same Loud Tech has hurt them and they are probably still making the best driver on the market but their own brand is not so much recommended anymore...
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the high end speakers at Yorkville are using RCF drivers, so no surprise they are good But, I too believe EV has the best sounding speakers overall with the ZX series, but I wouldn't mind having a nice pair of NX55
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