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| Author: | jsay1231 [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Two separate sytems producing one terrific karaoke sound??? |
 Would it make any sense to use two complete separate sound systems, one with an amp, karaoke cd player with its own speakers, and one with an amp and a microphone with its own speakers to be used strictly for the singer's microphone. In other words, one to be used strictly for karaoke cds and the other for the singer's voice, and by doing so would that make a better overall sound...???[/list]
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| Author: | DannyG2006 [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Two separate sytems producing one terrific karaoke sound??? |
I personally doubt it as you can't get the mix right if separate sound systems are handling voice and music. I believe that you would need them together to sound right. |
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| Author: | mr.fahrenheit [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Two separate sytems producing one terrific karaoke sound??? |
I wouldn't have thought it any better as long as you have a decent sound system to start with. Why bother carrying, setting up and controlling 2 systems instead of 1. |
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| Author: | jsay1231 [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Two separate sytems producing one terrific karaoke sound??? |
More than likely, you are correct. I just thought that maybe having two distinct and separate systems would allow for each to be separately tweeked. But I do appreciate your response, and unless someone else could add their thought, more than not I will not go ahead...again thanks... |
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| Author: | ripman8 [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Two separate sytems producing one terrific karaoke sound??? |
jsay1231 @ Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:40 pm wrote: More than likely, you are correct. I just thought that maybe having two distinct and separate systems would allow for each to be separately tweeked. But I do appreciate your response, and unless someone else could add their thought, more than not I will not go ahead...again thanks...
What would you be able to tweak that you can't with one system? |
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| Author: | jamkaraoke [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Two separate sytems producing one terrific karaoke sound??? |
I think 1 decent sound PA system handling the music and the vocals is the way to go . What do you do with DUETS ---do you need an extra system 
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| Author: | Lonman [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Two separate sytems producing one terrific karaoke sound??? |
If you can't get a good mix with one system, then you do not know the equipment. A good mixer, not overpowering effects, proper eq for both music & mics, proper gain structure is going to go along way. Why waste the time bringing in a complete second system when one is all you need. |
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| Author: | TOMMIE TUNES [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Two separate sytems producing one terrific karaoke sound??? |
Another way to achieve what you are trying to do is by use of monitor mixes from your Aux sends ( if your mixer is so equiped). You can use either powered speakers or another Amplifier and passive speakers and tailor your vocal/music mix this way. I use four speakers on stands next to my mains with primarily vocals coming through and about 5 percent music. I do the same thing with an additional mix from powered speakers that i have on the floor and the vocals cut through the mix real nice. I use a Mackie-cfx -12 mixer that has -2- Aux sends. The reason that I use so many speakers is because my set-up is in a fairly small room and it is hard to get the proper gain structure through the main mix alone without fighting alot of feedback through the microphones. 
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| Author: | TopherM [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Two separate sytems producing one terrific karaoke sound??? |
If you separate the systems like you stated, then you are probably going to have delay issues with the two separate sources being out of wack. If you have the ear to correct the delay by properly alligning the speakers (either physically moving them or virtually moving them through a delay effect), then it is going to sound just fine. HOWEVER, like everyone has said, that sure is alot of work when you could just run a good, solid single system and get the same sound. Why PHYSICALLY separate the input sources and frequencies when a $100.00 crossover will ELECTRONICALLY do the same thing for you? I run a bi-amped, full-range system, which is similar to what you are trying to acheive, but just more logical, as it runs through an active crossover and doesn't have delay issues. 500 watts/channel to my 15" Peavey SP5s that only get the low frequencies, then 400 watts/channel to my Peavey PR12s that get the mid and high frequencies. So, in the karaoke application, the SP5s are playing only the low frequencies from the music, while the PR12s handle the mids and highs of the music and the majority of the vocal tones (which are mostly mid-range tones). What you described above is almost the same concept, except maybe a tri-amped full range system with separate low, mid, and high speakers and amps to isolate the majority of the vocal tones within one speaker set. Anyway, that is the "proper" way to incorporate mutiple systems into a single PA. |
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