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Author:  oneguinea [ Mon May 11, 2009 6:15 am ]
Post subject:  Karaoke Computer program
I am currently running Siglos Karaoke Proffesional karaoke hosting program on a laptop with Vista 32 bit. I have haad many problems with this software since purchasing it. It tends to act up in the middle of a show. Getiing the singers in correct order, etc. I would like to switch to a program that is not terribly expensive that is user friendly, has many feastures and runs well on Vista. Any suggestions??
Author:  Michaelangelo1 [ Mon May 11, 2009 6:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Karaoke Computer program
I have used Siglos Karaoke Professional for over a year on both XP and Vista and I have rarely had problems. Usually it only has problems getting people out of order if you regularly move people around in the rotation instead of leaving them in the order they were entered.

In the rare cases where it does freeze, it resumes with the same rotation previously listed before the crash.

You may have a hardware problem with your pc.
Author:  stogie [ Mon May 11, 2009 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Karaoke Computer program
One possible program to try is JustKaraoke from Tricerasoft. It's $25 and it looks very simple. I know mcky57 doesn't like it, he says the key changer is poor and doesn't sound good. I went to a show where the KJ was using it and it sounded fine to me. I may be buying it in the next couple of months. I figure for $25 you don't have much to lose. I don't know of any other Karaoke player software for that little money.


Sax and Dotty I think is $79 and I've been reading about lots of problems with it lately.

I looked at Roxbox a couple of times and I HATED it, but some folks rave about it. To me it was primitive and just didn't seem like a professional piece of software. I don't like winamp either and it runs on winamp.

Most of the other programs are $100 and UP. Unfortunately we're still in the Stone Age with this stuff. There are better, more stable, more professional programs available, but you're talking about quite a bit more money.

There is a free player program called autokdj that runs on winamp, but personally I don't care for it. Lots of folks use it and like it, but after trying and trying, I just didn't like the user interface and the way it works. I've given up on it.
Author:  CStaley [ Tue May 12, 2009 2:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Karaoke Computer program
Stogie said:
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Most of the other programs are $100 and UP. Unfortunately we're still in the Stone Age with this stuff. There are better, more stable, more professional programs available, but you're talking about quite a bit more money.


It amazes me how many people want to call themselves a "professional KJ" and yet refuse to invest in their own business... "Free, free, free! We want everything FREE!"

Gee, "a $100 and UP?" What a bank-breaker! If you charge a club $150 / night isn't an investment of "2 nights" worth it to avoid program crashes and looking UNprofessional when your "almost free" program is croaking a couple of times a night? It is a "one time expense" and not a reocurring one.

Is apologizing to the establishment's patrons because YOU have a problem with YOUR "practically free" software and have to reboot several times something that really doesn't bother you?


You've already admitted that there are lots of other programs that are more stable, you just refuse to buy your way out of the stone age and invest in a package that will work consistantly.

You get what you pay for... in hardware OR software. If you don't like the after effects of NOT using something more stable yet you refuse to spend the small amount of money to fix it, don't complain about it.

If all the "cheap or free players" worked perfectly all the time, there wouldn't be any reason for software over $100 to even exist would there?
Author:  Zonerc [ Tue May 12, 2009 2:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Karaoke Computer program
i have sax and dotty latest version that i paid for and have had no problems what so ever with it .
Author:  stogie [ Tue May 12, 2009 2:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Karaoke Computer program
cstaley, I was trying to answer the original poster's question. They asked if there was another program they could switch to that wasn't terribly expensive since they had already spent money on Siglos and it wasn't working for them. Not everyone can afford Compuhost or Hoster. I know I can't. You don't have to be a jerk about it.

My comment about the stone age meant that eventually there will be stable, feature rich programs for a reasonable amount of money available to just about anyone. In the scheme of things computerized Karaoke hasn't been around for very long. As more work and thought and development goes into Karaoke programs they will get more refined, more stable and less expensive. Just like everything else.
Author:  Zonerc [ Tue May 12, 2009 2:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Karaoke Computer program
Everyone has to start somewhere and if that means stating small because thats all they can afford so be it ,better than spending they life savings and realising the game isnt for them or they just no good at it.
Author:  Bazza [ Tue May 12, 2009 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Karaoke Computer program
stogie @ Tue May 12, 2009 5:40 am wrote:
Not everyone can afford Compuhost or Hoster. I know I can't. You don't have to be a jerk about it.


He makes a valid point. This is the CORE of what we do...it's the engine. Without a hosting system, everything else is meaningless. We are willing to spend thousands of dollars on amps, speakers, mixers, microphones, sonic maximizers, compressors, etc, yet we balk at a decent software package that costs less than what most of us make in one night.

It's like the guy who puts new siding on his house while his foundation is crumbling. :lol:
Author:  CStaley [ Tue May 12, 2009 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Karaoke Computer program
stogie @ Tue May 12, 2009 2:40 am wrote:
cstaley, I was trying to answer the original poster's question. They asked if there was another program they could switch to that wasn't terribly expensive since they had already spent money on Siglos and it wasn't working for them. Not everyone can afford Compuhost or Hoster. I know I can't. You don't have to be a jerk about it.

My comment about the stone age meant that eventually there will be stable, feature rich programs for a reasonable amount of money available to just about anyone. In the scheme of things computerized Karaoke hasn't been around for very long. As more work and thought and development goes into Karaoke programs they will get more refined, more stable and less expensive. Just like everything else.



Then ask your original poster how much they're willing to spend on music.

My point is that there is "stable, feature rich programs for a reasonable amount of money available to just about anyone" and even if software is $500 it's still a deal if you're going to do this job professionally and charge $150/night. How many nights would it take to pay back the cost for a "decent" program to use? TWO? Is that "too expensive?"

How much did you spend on your music? More than $500.00?

Nothin' personal Stogie, but I get REALLY pissed off when all I hear these days is how much a KJ wants to get for "free" or next to free or "almost free" and all the time I'm forced to compete with downloaders that want "really cheap player software" so they can go into a club and charge barely enough to cover their gasoline to get there in the first place.

I'm no longer catering to or assisting the "hobbyist attitude" that they can simply drive the prices lower by getting everything they can for nothing or next to nothing and then of course because they have no experience (or talent in many cases) they lowball each other into clubs... What does this do for the rest of us that take this business seriously? It simply teaches the club owners that they CAN get a karaoke night for $100 or LESS.

So I get club owners asking me to haul in $7,000 in sound system and another $20,000 (yes, that's TWENTY THOUSAND) dollars in music into their club for $100 per night because some Joe Schmoe (with a radio shack system and downloaded music) will do it for that price... or cheaper.

And just to set the record straight, "computerized karaoke" has been around for a minimum of SEVEN YEARS.
Author:  letitrip [ Tue May 12, 2009 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Karaoke Computer program
For the record, I use a completely free software package (AutoKDJ with WinAmp). I use it because it was MORE stable than RoxBox and I liked the features better than the other software I looked at.

However, I do see CStaley's point on this. If you're going to call yourself a professional, then you should be a professional. Professionals don't accept situations where their equipment doesn't perform as it is supposed to. Especially in cases where it can be as detrimental to the gig as having the player stop working in the middle of a show. It is frustrating to have people calling themselves KJ's that basically operate on equipment no better than my home stereo. It gives us all a bad name. However that said, I don't completely mind it either because it makes those of us who've actually made a professional investment look that much better.

I understand the point of trying it out to see if you enjoy it before you invest big bucks, but that's a bizarre scenario to me. We're talking about starting a professional business here. Responsible and sensible business owners have a plan and understand they're taking a calculated risk when they start a business, that's part of the process. I mean would you open a restaurant with a fry daddy and your home stove with only two items on the menu to try it out and see if you like running a restaurant first? Of course not. So what I don't get is why people think that would work well in this line of business.
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