Rocky Horror's Science Fiction/Double Feature while dressed as a mad scientist. Add chem lab props with dry ice effects and that will get their attention.
Of course you could glam it up and do Sweet Transvestite....
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| Author: | King Turi [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lookin' for opinions! |
Hey, I'm in a bit of a pickle at the moment.. Long story short, I am upto state finals in a world karaoke competition but I got no idea on what song to sing. Currently I have already registered "The Prayer" by Anthony Callea (youtube his version, it's better for a solo performer than Andrea and Celine's), but a few people have told me that that song gets done every year at this same stage I'm up to in the competition, so I've been advised against doing it for this reason (so the judges don't just think I'm the next Prayer guy or something).. Everyone I talk to thinks Unchained Melody would be a better option, since I'm only 21 years old and it would sort of catch people off-guard, as well as it being a great song to show off my voice. Only problem with that is that's one of the most sung songs of all-time and everyone and their dog has an opinion on how it should be sung.. I'm basically at a loss as to what sort of song to sing, so I'm after some opinions on what sort of songs you think would be good competition songs etc.. and just opinions on my situation in general, since I really do need the help 'cuz I honestly don't know what to do >_< I'm after songs that make the crowds jaw just drop, preferably a ballad or something not too rockish since I still have to work on my stage presence, since as it is, I hardly move around.. and I'll be judged on stage presence, which when I'm doing a ballad, I won't need much of haha |
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| Author: | GeminiMALE40 [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
Songs from the Broadway Musical "LES MES..I Dreamed A dream"..from Jekell & Hyde...West Side Story...or something by Josh Groban would also be a good choice |
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| Author: | GeminiMALE40 [ Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
King Turi @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:07 am wrote: Hey, I'm in a bit of a pickle at the moment..
Long story short, I am upto state finals in a world karaoke competition but I got no idea on what song to sing. Currently I have already registered "The Prayer" by Anthony Callea (youtube his version, it's better for a solo performer than Andrea and Celine's), but a few people have told me that that song gets done every year at this same stage I'm up to in the competition, so I've been advised against doing it for this reason (so the judges don't just think I'm the next Prayer guy or something).. Everyone I talk to thinks Unchained Melody would be a better option, since I'm only 21 years old and it would sort of catch people off-guard, as well as it being a great song to show off my voice. Only problem with that is that's one of the most sung songs of all-time and everyone and their dog has an opinion on how it should be sung.. I'm basically at a loss as to what sort of song to sing, so I'm after some opinions on what sort of songs you think would be good competition songs etc.. and just opinions on my situation in general, since I really do need the help 'cuz I honestly don't know what to do >_< I'm after songs that make the crowds jaw just drop, preferably a ballad or something not too rockish since I still have to work on my stage presence, since as it is, I hardly move around.. and I'll be judged on stage presence, which when I'm doing a ballad, I won't need much of haha as far as stage presence ..as a judge myself I dont care if it is a ballad or not I want something that catches my eye. A A Singer I have use chairs .Fog..and even bubbles...just because its a slow song..doesnt mean you cant WOW them with stage presence |
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| Author: | Cueball [ Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
GeminiMALE40 @ Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:18 am wrote: Songs from the Broadway Musical "LES MES..I Dreamed A dream"..from Jekell & Hyde...West Side Story...or something by Josh Groban would also be a good choice
Specifically - Bring Him Home (Les Mis) This is the Moment (Jeckyll and Hyde) - I prefer the London version over the Broadway version... I feel it has more power in it (even if it doesn't have that bridge after the 1st stanza) You Raise Me Up (Josh Groban) As for Stage Presence, don't hide behind a Ballad Song.... If you just stand there on the stage, it doesn't matter how good your voice is, you won't win. If you can't work on it yourself, find someone in a local Performing Arts School to help you with your act. You might make it through your State Finals on the merits of your voice, but once you go National, all bets are off. You said that this is a Worldwide Contest. |
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| Author: | lordairgtar [ Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
Rocky Horror's Science Fiction/Double Feature while dressed as a mad scientist. Add chem lab props with dry ice effects and that will get their attention. Of course you could glam it up and do Sweet Transvestite....
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| Author: | ripman8 [ Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
Congrats and good luck! I don't have a clue. Most karaoke songs aren't used to show off someone who has an incredible voice imho. How about "all by myself"? |
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| Author: | ChrisClay [ Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:18 pm ] |
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"You Raise Me Up" by Josh Groban Good Luck!!! |
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| Author: | OperaKitty [ Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:43 pm ] |
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Most important - regardless of "over done" make sure what you are doing is something you are INCREDIBLY comfortable with, do well, and can SELL. Stage presence is not about moving around, but the ability to draw in your audience and engage them in the story you are telling. If you really think you perform The Prayer incredibly well, DO IT. Frankly, I think All by Myself, You Raise Me Up, and This is the Moment (ESPECIALLY This is the Moment) are far more over done than the Prayer at this point. I would suggest looking at some less well-known Josh Groban and Andre Bocelli. If you're still looking for something else, I'd suggest: Anthem - Chess Where's the Girl - Scarlet Pimpernel Empty Chairs at Empty Tables - Les Miserables Love Changes Everything -Aspects of Love Being Alive - Company Gethsemane - Jesus Christ Superstar For future, if you're looking for more uptempo/performance pieces, think about: You Won't Succeed on Broadway - Spamalot Oh What a Circus - Evita Falcon in the Dive - Scarlet Pimpernel Best of luck! |
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| Author: | Marble [ Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:51 pm ] |
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not the best person to ask for ideas as i stear clear of competions. . . but a customer sang oh what a circus as my show, and the song itself alongs side his voice blew me away. Excellent song and everyone knows the tune thanks to madonna. A very popular broadway song in my room. well done and good luck |
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| Author: | King Turi [ Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
I've actually done "Bring Him Home" before and everyone loved it, I never really knew what it was from or anything, it was just a song my mum told me to check out one time and I liked it haha.. GeminiMale40 - well, what sort of stuff would catch your eye? With a ballad I don't need to jump around and stuff, it wouldn't look right if I did, I don't just stand there staring at the screen or anything.. but what sort of stuff could I work on to improve stage presence, as in, for someone who barely moves at all, what could be some stuff they could do? Some people just get up there and jump around like idiots, I don't wanna look like one of those dudes. cueball, You Raise Me Up is a great song, and I can nail it, it's actually a really easy song to sing, but I'm not sure if it would capture the crowd the way I want it too, I need to be sending goosebumps up peoples spines, which I can do with the Prayer and Unchained Melody, I haven't really done You Raise Me Up when there's been a lot of people, seemed to self-indulgent for some reason haha, but that's what this stage is all about, finding a "look at me" song I guess. :/ lordairgtar, yeah, ain't gonna happen haha OperaKitty, yeah, I know I can nail the Prayer it's one of those songs that sounds hard but actually doesn't strain me at all to do, same with Unchained Melody though. I'm lookin' into the songs you mentioned now, since I've never heard of any of them. Cheers so far! |
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| Author: | Murray C [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:22 am ] |
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"What I Did For Love" The version/arrangement by Englebert Humperdink is a great song that doesn't get heard much! |
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| Author: | oneofakind864 [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
hey there...I'm curious if the competition you are referring to is Talent quest...They have people from all over- even as far as new Zealand coming in for that one. If so, I can speak from experience(I won it in 03  )
The prayer, and you raise me up ARE way overdone. You raise me up is also not the best song to suck an audience in and hold their attention...unless you can change it around and do it BETTER than Josh grobin- their reaction is gonna be "ok great he hit all the notes- so what" "This is the Moment" may be overdone and i respect operakitty's opinion Immensely! But if you're doing it at Talent quest- I have only heard one male vocalist do it ...and do it well. I think "All by myself" is a wonderful tune- but it is also too long and you build it then it drops back again...Personally when I'm competing i run like hell from anything that has such a long solo in it because without a live band- you're stuck on the stage twiddling your thumbs while the solo plays. Unless you're cabable of doing some impressive ballroom dance steps to make this time interesting- avoid anything with long solos. To win a competition- you get in, prove your point and get out...and this is the key ...you gave to leave your audience AND your judges WANTING MORE...the shorter the song- the better the chance you have of doing this. "bring him home" is a great song that you don't hear to often...Anthem is a great song...ther are TONS of great songs out there. here is your criteria to choose "how long is the arrangement" the shorter the better "does it have a solo" if it has one longer than a measure or two- avoid it and this is the most important thing- ask yourself "can i do it as well or BETTER than the original" if the last one is true(and don't let an overinflated ego lead you astray on this) look for edited versions of the song almost all the songs mentioned above are available at www.musicalcreations.com in edited versions for the same price as the original. This will also ensure that you have a "karaoke CD" that will be allowed in competitions that have strict "no copied music" policies. It will also make sure that you will be WELL within any time constraints the competition may have. Go to the site find the song you like , click on it and look for the A, B, C and D options. This will give you the lyrics to show you how the arrangement is edited. If your song has one good "money note" or modulation- my suggestion is - get a version that has a verse and chorus- then the money maker note or modulation...and get out of the song. The judges who are listening to a million singers will appreciate you not singing a long drawnout song and will be happy with the scoring if you know what I mean. If you wanna see this principle in action- look at "america's Got talent" or "britains got talent" to see how the songs are edited....Nessun Dorma seems to be a great crowd pleaser as is "bring him home"- but you need to watch these being PERFORMED- don't just listen to them- watch the pros sing them and look at how they perform it. If you want to win this competition- video tape yourself and watch yourself singing it. Do you think you're in the same class as the performances you've seen on youtube? That's what it takes to win a national or international karaoke competition. It's a sad fact of life that makes many karaoke singers bitter...but when you get to that level- it takes more than a great voice to win.. You have to pick the right song...and you have to always remember that they aren't going to "cut you slack" because it's "karaoke" They will be comparing you to whoever the "best" performer they have ever heard sing the song is. I tell my students that you're foolish to try to sing "Streisand" like Striesand sings.. because the only singer in the world who can actually do this is "linda Eder" and' THAT's an exception to the rule. Chances are you don't sing "Grobin" LIKE Grobin...so unless you choose a song they may not be as familiar with like "you're still you" ...OR you can change it up and do it your own way...you're not gonna come off winning with "you raise me up" But , on the other hand-you're also gonna get the "OMG I LOVE this song!" brownie points if you sing something the judges like because then they don't have to decide if they like the song... they only need to consider if they like YOUR version of it. When you do a much loved song from a broadway show like "bring him home" it;s like the "I will always love you" of stage.(yeah I AM aware that this is from "best little whorehouse in Texas" but face it MOST people still compare anyone they hear sing it to the Whitney pop version NOt the Dolly version)...and even though it's overdone as all get out! people just LOVE that song. Sorry I digressed from the point that "Song choice is crucial" If you can choose a song they know and love AND ( A HUGE "and") you can project the emotion any of the professional singers do into it...you have a winner. Plus Broadway songs are much more forgiving and open to interpretation than Grobin songs which are more classical in nature for the most part. Just my opinion...but I have won 5 national and international competitions...I've also hosted 2 national competitons..I teach voice and stage presence...and am currently a professional vocalist....yeah there may be some haters on here that get their knickers ruffled that I say that cuz they think I'm bragging(but then again I've been on here for almost 5 years and this is the first time I've mentioned most of that so maybe not)-Either way- don't really care what anyone thinks of me-- I'm just talking to you and letting you know I do have some experience in these things. I suggest recording the final few song choices and subbing them over in the showcase...have people vote on their favorite...tho ya need to take comments with a grain of salt because SS tends to be very generous with the good things and they will avoid pointing out if there is anything wrong- but hopefully you'd have one song that gets overwhelming response and that would be your song. The other thing I suggest is going to a show where no one knows you and singng your top few choices- see what the crowd response is. Hope all this helps and best of luck with the competition! |
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| Author: | King Turi [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:13 pm ] |
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Nah this comp is called KWC or something.. I think the stage I'm at now will be the hardest to get through since there'll be about 40-50 singers there, and they only choose one. ..and that one has to be me haha.. Yeah I keep having more and more people tell me who have been to similar stages in these competitions that The Prayer is overdone.. it's a song I can give people goosebumps with though, so it's a hard decision to toss it out or not. Songs with instrumentals are out of the question, otherwise I would do I Believe In A Thing Called Love by The Darkness, since I can nail it and everyone goes off, it just has a massive instrumental in the middle of it which kills it for competition sakes. Bring Him Home I love, but I'm not sure if pullin' out a broadway song is the best idea for a karaoke competition, since I don't know if anyone will know the song at all.. Nessun Dorma I would love to give a shot, but the karaoke I go to doesn't have it, I'd also love to try The Impossible Dream by Luther Vandross, but I can't practice that anywhere either. I'm more in my zone when I do something kind of RnB-ish with some fast lyrics, but also has places that really show off the vocals, like The Remedy by Jason Mraz, they kinda get me movin' around a little, but I need something that's gonna cream the crowd basically, and all I can think of is The Prayer. How often does Unchained Melody get done at karaoke competitions? |
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| Author: | leopard lizard [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:22 pm ] |
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One of a Kind, that was extremely valuable, high-caliber advice. I can't see anyone taking offense. |
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| Author: | oneofakind864 [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:45 am ] |
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Thanks Lizard 
Turi- Gonna let you in on another karaoke competition fact- if you wanna win- and you're serious about it...you need to have your own disks. There are numerous manufacturers out there and they can all do a version of a particular song- and ALL of them can differ. That will throw you off in a contest. You need to have copies of "your" tunes and you need to practice them. Can I say that again- if this is a world competition and you're NOT practicing--you're gonna get blown away because I can guarantee your competition is singing everyday. They are doing it in a mirror if they aren't actually taping themselves. As I said before- these people are SERIOUS about competition...and the judges are just as serious. You need to call the people running the competition and get a copy of the scoring sheet. Chances are it's gonna have about half of the points coming from your voice- but the other half are gonna be stage presence, crowd reaction, creativity, costume...that means if you have a great voice- but you just stand there and sing- you get a perfect FIFTY. That means that the little girl with just an OK voice who dressed up in a dorothy outfit and walks out there with a dog in her basket and ruby slippers and works the room...she can get a 35 vocally but still beat you because she gets points for all the other cateories. Don't tell me you can't FIND a place to practice! When I did karaoke Idol in 05- I moved my dining room table to one side and took a big mirror off the wall and put in in front of me so I could see what i was doing. I knocked on my neighbors doors and told them I needed to practice and that it might be a little loud. Not a single one of them had a problem with that. At this point - I'd say your song selection is the least of your troubles. You need to get serious..or you're gonna get beat. There isn't anything wrong with the Prayer or Unchained melody...as long as you can do them as good or better than the originals...just keep in mind -VOCALLY-you are being compared NOT to the other contestants...but to the original artist- or whoever that particular judge has heard sing that song "the best" and i STILL recommend finding shorter arrangements. Unchained melody especially- you may think that the audience and the judges are enjoying that 5 minute long chance to hear your beautiful voice. Trust me they aren't. They want you to prove your point- show what you can do and get off the stage for the next person. You're wise if you keep it under 3 minutes. There is a reason Idol allows the contestants only 90 seconds and it's only partially that air time is expensive. I personally could have listened to Adam Lambert or Danny Gokey for an hour- but because I only got a "taste" of them each week- I savored that 90 seconds I got because it was like the first bite of ice cream. Soooo yummy- the best thing you ever tasted...but eat too much and- it's degenerated to a nice tasting cold cream you can do without. Don't let that happen to you vocally. Get your hiney on musical creations...or ask people here if they have edited versions of the songs you're interested in ...I know nessun dorma is out there! So is the prayer and Unchained melody....another thing....if you pick a song like unchained melody- be prepared to hit the high note. I've heard people sing it and not hit the high note...everyone in the audience is waiting for that money note- give it to them of they will feel cheated. Kinda like girls whp want to sing Mariah Carey- but leave the whistle tones out. Anyway- what I mean in my previous post about not letting your ego get in the way...DON'T assume that more of you is a good thing ...it probably isn't...and DON'T sing anyone that you're not as good as the original. DO get your own versions of the songs you plan on competing with...no excuse for not having them even if the KJ stipulates in the rules that you have to use HIS disks(I've never seen a contest that had a problem with a contestant having theor own songs as long as they are legitimate karaoke cd's or Cdg's) But even if they DID make you use their cd's- you still need to have whatever arrangement they have to practice with. Look for arrangements with 1 verse- 1 chorus then either the money note or money making modulation...and get off the stage. Seriously- I can't emphasize enough- the shorter the better in a contest! You wanna see what an edited song can do-check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DelJrP3P7tA he starts singing at 48 sec....the crowd went wild 25 SECONDS later...and in 2:13 seconds he had WON! here's another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7zYPT-jpA neil E boyd- he starts at 3:13 the crowd reacts 35 seconds later....and in 2 minutes he had WON. yet another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PmUnvhN ... re=related she starts at 2:55 in FIVE SECONDS had the crowd standing. She has David standing at 20 seconds...and won in ONE MINUTE 15 seconds! here's one of the songs you're considering http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RerU3W2t ... re=related he starts at 2;30 and gets BOOED for the first minute...had he been singing the regular version of this he would have been crucified. he hit the modulation at 3;35 and turned the crowd around. This is the strongest proponent for edited songs that I can give you. It also shows you what the general public's opinion of an "overdone" song is and how you are starting in a hole you have to dig out of whenever you sing a song like this. here he is doing another song suggested to you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUGssIq-50 see how much better his perfromance is? You need to at the bare minimum sell the song emotionally like this Something else I just thought about- if you're weak on stage presence- the shorter the song- the less it shows that you aren't "working it" so much. Another reason I would point you towards the more classical or semi classical songs is that , as a singer, you aren't EXPECTED to move around as much on a stage as you would be for other genres. Something to think about. Basically what you need to remember is that ....The only time you're gonna get compared to the other contestants is in stage presence, choreography, crowd reaction, and creativity. if you can sing either of the 2 songs you seem to be leaning towards as well as the originals- then you just need to figure out how you're gonna sell the song. Either way- you won't win if you don't practice. Find out how you're being scored and let us know- maybe we can help you come up with some ideas to make you stand out in the areas of competition you may not be so comfortable with. |
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| Author: | King Turi [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:42 pm ] |
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oneofakind, I've done a short version of The Prayer before, it didn't have the second verse and everybody noticed it didn't have it and complained, not about how I sang it, just had people comin' up to me sayin' "Where was the second verse, man?".. As for people with their own karaoke discs, well a few people brang their own discs to the last round, and I beat them with what I had available, I didn't bring my own discs, I got beat up for doing "Most Beautiful Girl In The World" by Prince, but it still got me through that round, then for the next one I did "The Prayer" and everyone stopped and stared, I've been told I do the song better than the original or any covers, and it sounded big headed, but judging from the reactions I get every time I do it, I'm inclined to agree haha.. then I got through that round purely through vocals, since I wasn't dressed to impress (rocked up in jeans and a jacket) and I wasn't dancing around (I moved a little for Prince, but that's more of a danceable song).. With the Prayer I sing it like I mean it, I don't just stand completely still and stare at the screen, though I do feel awkward looking away from the screen (I've got a couple of weeks to work on this though, at normal karaokes) and I move my hands a little (nothing major though). For the bigger notes I make it look like it's harder than it is, for effect ..
Unchained Melody is a song I do BECAUSE I can hit the high note, I feel let down when I see people do it and not hit the high note - that note IS the song.. there's two notes that make that song what it is I reckon, that high "need" note, and the first time you sing "are you still miiii-IIINEE", both are the big notes people look out for. You saying I will be compared to the originals of the songs means alot, because I was lead to believe I'd just be compared to the other singers in the competition, and I checked out the dude who won this competition last year and he completely RUINED the songs he done.. his Prayer was pathetic.. but now I know just because I know I've got it over last years winner vocally.. I need to make sure I've got it over the originals.. that was just an aspect my eyes were open to before you mentioned it, so yeah, thanks for that! Paul Potts I'm not too into, he did do the song alright but it sounds like he was trying to hard to be technically perfect, which is something I'm not fond of in a singers voice, it doesn't allow for passion or conviction to shine through when singers are carefully pronouncing their words perfectly and stuff.. The dude who done You Raise Me Up was absolutely horrible, I didn't know why they were booing him, since I thought he wasn't so bad at the beginning, but he was nowhere near the right stuff when the crowd went wild for him, I found both his performances to be very weak, but I'm not a judge or anything, so all I can say is that's how it sounded to me.. I checked a few of his other songs hoping he might have something decent, but I guess I'm just not feeling his voice or something, I found his Unchained Melody to be horrendous. Especially the first big note in the song :/ I know a classical type song, like The Prayer or a ballad like Unchained Melody is what I need to do due to my lack of stage presence, I've been told by a couple of people I do hold peoples attention on stage, but I feel as if it's purely my voice - which isn't the only thing you get judged on as you said, so yeah, I definitely need some work.. What tips would you have for someone who doesn't look away from the screen too much, and doesn't really move around too much? I mean I could just try and "do it" but it feels so unnatural since I've been looking at the screen for so long.. I dance around a little when I'm doing a duet, but even then I feel awkward interacting with whoever I'm doing a duet with, I always feel like I'm showing everyone I sing with up, and that makes me feel weird for some reason. I don't like coming across as cocky or anything.. So far you're advice has been excellent stuff though, and I'm honestly listening to everything you type since it all helps, so yeah, don't think I'm taking this for granted or anything. |
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| Author: | oneofakind864 [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:27 am ] |
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first off...don't worry what other people think about song length...look at it from a judges point of view...if you have to listen to numerous singers would you not appreciate someone who gets up there- proves his point and gets off the stage? Not trying to sound like a broken record but again "The shorter the better" trust me you're letting your ego get in the way if you believe they want to hear the second verse. Do you think the judges will really CARe where the second verse is? Nope! they won't. The shorter thing is also better for you since your stange presence is not all it could be. The guy singing "you raise me up" in the link I sent wasn't "all that" vocally- but he had decent choreography for someone that pretty much stands in one place like you say you do. That's what I thought would be beneficial to you. Paul potts may not be your cup of tea- but he;s had 15 million hits on just that video on you tube and is making a darn good living being "correct" as you say. 
Regarding looking at the screen...in a word. DON'T! Every one of the national or international contests I've been in have said up front "when you get to this stage- you BETTER know the words" Most tell the judges to count off if you stare at the screen- glancing at it just to make sure you're where you should be is ok- but you SERIOUSLY need to look at that audience. An old trick is to stare out over their heads..that way you don't make eye contact which can distract you- but you still give the impression of interaction with the crowd. You don't have to move all over the stage- but if you stare at that screen the whole song you won't have a shot in hell of winning unless the other singers just plain suck...do they? 
if the winner did "the prayer" last year you may want to do "unchained melody" just get a shorter version...preferably one with no graphics. That way you CAN'T look at the screen cuz there won't BE any lyrics to look at. Does this contest have the same judges again this year? If not- who cares what the winner did last year? But my biggest question is "if he was so bad - how did he win?" Again I ask- what level of talent are you competing against? if they're all so bad the winner isn't even good- you don't have to worry about anything. I was assuming since it was an international competition the level of talent would be higher. The contests I have been in have had talent that is on par with any professional performer. I was giving you advice for THAT type of scenario. if this isn't the case- you're worrying for nothing. In a nutshell- get a short version of whichever song you want...and memorise it so you can look at the audience. That sounds like that's all it will take for you. 
Good luck and let us know how it goes! |
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| Author: | oneofakind864 [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
Dude- you better check out the website for this contest you're in http://www.kwc.fi/media.html listen and watch some of the singers...they do NOT suck...nor do they even HAVE monitors to look at at the national level. You are headed for a serious azz whuppin if you get to that level and you don't memorize that song and work on your stage presence. I think "unchained melody" will slay them...but get your own edited(under 3 minute) version and work your tail off or you're gonna be embarrassed! If you honestly dedicate yourself to this- you have an advantage because international audiences- especially europe and asia LOVE american R&B so if you can nail "unchained melody" thats a plus...but if you stare at that screen like a lump- don't even bother going. You will also need 5 songs for the international competition( but to do that you have to make it past your state, your region and nationals in the US). They have it set up in 2 nights of competition: the first night they have 40 singers(20 male 20 female) from around the globe each do 2 songs...they narrow the feild to 10 males and 10 females. and the second night each of them does another 2 songs,...then they call the top 5(male and female lumped together) and you have to do 1 more. You have a lot on your plate if you're serious about this...you need to look past this state level to the regional level ...THEN national level.....and if you REALLY work hard INTERNATIONAL competition.and think about what you need to win the whole thing. Then bust your azz to make sure you have what it takes. Are you REALLY ready for this? I think you need to contemplate the END of this journey and get a game plan to get there...This is much bigger than "the guy singing The Prayer last year...So..I have 2 questions: "Do you understand what you're biting off and can you chew it?" and if you think you can......."how serious are you?" You're going to be confronting some "big dogs in some tall grass" if you know what I mean. If you're not prepared you're gonna get pizzed on.  
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| Author: | OperaKitty [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
Oh...wow...yeah, just checked out the link, Paula. Gotta agree with everything you've said. King Turi - I haven't heard you sing, and only have your word to go on for how you are vocally, and, assuming your assessment of yourself is accurate, it won't be enough to win this particular competition without the stage presence to back it up. Really think about what you are doing and what you are capable of and put in some serious WORK. I can't say anything better than Paula has already said it, so...I'll just say I second all of it. |
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| Author: | King Turi [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lookin' for opinions! |
Yeah, that's the right comp.. and vocally I've got it over them all, I'm not being big headed, I truly believe I could flog them all in a VOCAL contest. But this is a KARAOKE contest, so voice alone won't win it for me, and I don't move around as much as some of the contestants there, I've got some people who are going to judge me real harshly to come to a karaoke with me tonight, I'm going to do Unchained Melody, The Prayer, and a couple of upbeat songs to see what they think I should work on, a couple of them are people who've made it to the same stage I'm at in years gone by.. Only problem with that is they were at the last stage I was at - and I beat them. So I guess I take their advice with a grain of salt since I must have had something over them last time - and I wasn't dancing around (all the people coming tonight didn't look at the screen that much last round, and danced around). They just didn't have great voices and put no emotion into the song (which is my strong point I can put emotion into my voice and face and hands, I just don't dance or jump around or anything). I'm gonna set a challenge to myself to sing at least 1 song without looking at the screen tonight, I'll get my friends to punish me if they see me looking at it! Should force me to keep focused on the goal - to win this competition. Never thought to look further than these state finals, so I should treat these state finals as if it's the last round of the entire competition basically? Sounds like a good plan 
Yes I understand what I'm biting off, and I believe I can take it - vocally I really do have it over basically everyone that's on that site - the guy who own last year basically MURDERED the songs he done, compared to what I can do with them VOCALLY. But he also moved around and owned the stage which is a major part of the game and a part I seriously need work on! But like I said, tonight I'll force myself to not look at the screen.. I'll basically just pretend I AM the dude from the Righteous Brothers, since he probably didn't have a screen there when he did it live.. You sure they don't have screens at that stage? If not, then I should rule the prayer out, since even though I know the whole song, and can sing it from start to finish acapella with no words.. I wouldn't wanna screw up, since it swaps languages and all.. so I wouldn't really know where I was at, if you get what I mean. I'll come back here with whatever problems my mates point out tonight.. |
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