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jamkaraoke
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:48 am |
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Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2002 10:54 am Posts: 3485 Location: New Jersey , USA Been Liked: 0 time
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When buying a Shure wireless system w/sm58
Are all the MICS the same and the difference is just the receivers ??
A $399 mic is the same as the $599 just the reciever is differant ?
Just curious as I was looking at them online
Can you expect to get the same quality sound from the less expensive set ?
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TopherM
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:07 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:09 am Posts: 3341 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Been Liked: 445 times
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I don't know the answer to your question, but I can tell you that I use the following Shure SM58 wireless as my DJ mic, and it has been flawless for about 3 years now. I've used it at a range of about 150 ft. through walls without issue.
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i- ... 4PG58-LIST
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Lonman
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:55 pm |
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This is the one I just got.
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i- ... 4SM58-LIST
Yes the mic heads themselves are the same - an SM58 is an SM58 whether it be in their wired to the top of the line wireless. The transmitter, receivers, extra features/options are what is going to be the main difference.
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jerry12x
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:59 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:40 am Posts: 2289 Location: Bolton UK Been Liked: 3 times
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Unless you buy off ebay like I did.
Fortunatly I got a full refund.
Ebay appears full of fake SM58's at the moment.
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rumbolt
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:10 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 30, 2004 6:38 pm Posts: 804 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Been Liked: 56 times
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I use this mic every week, it is a true workhorse and quality and sound it are great!
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i- ... 4PG58-LIST
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angel910
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:37 pm |
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TopherM @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:07 pm wrote: I don't know the answer to your question, but I can tell you that I use the following Shure SM58 wireless as my DJ mic, and it has been flawless for about 3 years now. I've used it at a range of about 150 ft. through walls without issue. http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i- ... 4PG58-LIST
The link you provided is NOT an SM58 it's a cheaper PG58. The microphones and receivers are all different in quality. You get what you pay for.
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Jian
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:42 pm |
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jamkaraoke @ 21st August 2009, 3:48 am wrote: When buying a Shure wireless system w/sm58 Are all the MICS the same and the difference is just the receivers ?? A $399 mic is the same as the $599 just the reciever is differant ?
Just curious as I was looking at them online
Can you expect to get the same quality sound from the less expensive set ?
The only different is the transmitter and the receiver
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letitrip
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:57 pm |
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Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:53 am Posts: 1462 Location: West Bend, WI Been Liked: 3 times
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To try and clarify, the PGX, SLX and ULX series all offer the SM58 and Beta58 heads. This head is the same no matter which series you get. What differs is the rest of the microphone body which is the transmitter. The PGX has only a single LED and a single button. The SLX and ULX have battery and channel displays along with buttons for programming, mute and power. The receivers are also different for each one. The PGX series only supports 8 channels, the SLX supports 40 and the ULX even more (if I recall correctly). The SLX and ULX have remotable antennas where the antennas on the PGX are not removable. Also the PGX has a very limited display showing only channel number where as the SLX can show a number of things (frequency, antenna, etc) and the ULX also adds a battery meter on the receiver.
Basically, as you upgrade from PGX to SLX to ULX you're getting more channels and more features related to transmission. The only thing affecting audio quality will be less interference (due to more channels) and some improvement in companding due to better transmitter and receiver design.
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mrdelicious2
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:47 am |
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"This is the one I just got.
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i- ... 4SM58-LIST
Yes the mic heads themselves are the same - an SM58 is an SM58 whether it be in their wired to the top of the line wireless. The transmitter, receivers, extra features/options are what is going to be the main difference. "
MrD has this same mic and the only thing I don't like is the plastic/cheap threads..which when overtightened crack the case. Still works perfect though, after about 2 years. I'm thinking of buying another exact one. Dollar for Dollar, can't beat it...best wireless mic for the $...hands down!
MrD
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jamkaraoke
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:59 am |
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Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2002 10:54 am Posts: 3485 Location: New Jersey , USA Been Liked: 0 time
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Thanks everyone, I did notice some of the links provided were for the PG58
I know that's a decent mic also. But if I'm going to upgrade and spend the money Ill go for the extra $100 and get the SM58.
I wouldn't be transmitting in a large area and most likley would get the "no frills" receiver which I'm SURE ( no pun ) is still very good as all have suggested.
I'm going for it !!
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mckyj57
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:03 am |
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Let me add my two cents in favor of the PGX24SM58. I own three of them, and they sound great.
The SM58 head only costs $40 more than the PG58 head -- I don't see why anyone would ever buy the poorer PG58 at that differential.
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jamkaraoke
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:14 am |
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mckyj57 @ Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:03 am wrote: Let me add my two cents in favor of the PGX24SM58. I own three of them, and they sound great.
The SM58 head only costs $40 more than the PG58 head -- I don't see why anyone would ever buy the poorer PG58 at that differential.
Totally agree --- It's the same price differential with the wired versions
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letitrip
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:50 am |
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jamkaraoke @ Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:59 am wrote: I wouldn't be transmitting in a large area and most likley would get the "no frills" receiver which I'm SURE ( no pun ) is still very good as all have suggested.
Just to make sure you understand, the "frills" of going with an SLX or ULX over a PGX has little to do with transmission distance. I believe all of the transmitters have the same power specs. The difference is in the number of simultaneous transmitters you can have up and running (8 channels does NOT mean you can have 8 transmitters going at the same time). Additionally, another difference is the flexibility to find open channels without interference.
Personally, I'd say if you're running 3 or fewer mics, the PGX series is fine. If you're going to have 4 or more you might want to seriously consider the SLX or ULX lines.
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jamkaraoke
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:31 am |
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Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2002 10:54 am Posts: 3485 Location: New Jersey , USA Been Liked: 0 time
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letitrip @ Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:50 pm wrote: jamkaraoke @ Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:59 am wrote: I wouldn't be transmitting in a large area and most likley would get the "no frills" receiver which I'm SURE ( no pun ) is still very good as all have suggested.
Just to make sure you understand, the "frills" of going with an SLX or ULX over a PGX has little to do with transmission distance. I believe all of the transmitters have the same power specs. The difference is in the number of simultaneous transmitters you can have up and running (8 channels does NOT mean you can have 8 transmitters going at the same time). Additionally, another difference is the flexibility to find open channels without interference. Personally, I'd say if you're running 3 or fewer mics, the PGX series is fine. If you're going to have 4 or more you might want to seriously consider the SLX or ULX lines.
Thanks Tony
I wouldn't be running more than 2 and most likely just the 1 for awhile.
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letitrip
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:17 pm |
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Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:53 am Posts: 1462 Location: West Bend, WI Been Liked: 3 times
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jamkaraoke @ Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:31 pm wrote: letitrip @ Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:50 pm wrote: jamkaraoke @ Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:59 am wrote: I wouldn't be transmitting in a large area and most likley would get the "no frills" receiver which I'm SURE ( no pun ) is still very good as all have suggested.
Just to make sure you understand, the "frills" of going with an SLX or ULX over a PGX has little to do with transmission distance. I believe all of the transmitters have the same power specs. The difference is in the number of simultaneous transmitters you can have up and running (8 channels does NOT mean you can have 8 transmitters going at the same time). Additionally, another difference is the flexibility to find open channels without interference. Personally, I'd say if you're running 3 or fewer mics, the PGX series is fine. If you're going to have 4 or more you might want to seriously consider the SLX or ULX lines. Thanks Tony I wouldn't be running more than 2 and most likely just the 1 for awhile.
The the PGX sounds like the most reasonable choice. I did think of one other feature that the SLX and ULX have over the PGX and that is that they are rack mountable out of the box. They come with everything you need to rack mount the receivers. Jam in your case if you decide to rack mount the PGX, I recommend you buy the shelf from Shure. It comes pre-drilled and with the right screws so you can mount the receiver directly to it. With other shelves you'll need to either drill or come up with come kind of bracket or what not. The Shure shelf kit costs a little more but is worth it (take it from someone who has done it both ways).
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Bazza
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:49 am |
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One more minor detail, especially if buying used equipment. The PGX transmitters & receivers come pre-configured for a range of frequency's. Shure refers to them as the H6, J6 and L5 frequency banks. If you look on the bottom of the receiver, or inside the transmitter you will see this designation. You must match them up. An L5 mic wont work with a J6 receiver, etc...even though they appear exactly the same.
Of course this only matters if trying to replace a lost mic or piecing something together via eBay. If you buy new, of course they are a matched pair.
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letitrip
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:05 pm |
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Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:53 am Posts: 1462 Location: West Bend, WI Been Liked: 3 times
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Barry @ Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:49 am wrote: One more minor detail, especially if buying used equipment. The PGX transmitters & receivers come pre-configured for a range of frequency's. Shure refers to them as the H6, J6 and L5 frequency banks. If you look on the bottom of the receiver, or inside the transmitter you will see this designation. You must match them up. An L5 mic wont work with a J6 receiver, etc...even though they appear exactly the same.
Of course this only matters if trying to replace a lost mic or piecing something together via eBay. If you buy new, of course they are a matched pair.
To further expand on this, all Shure wireless kits have the frequency designation. For instance, my two SLX kits are L4 and J3 bands. This is very important as Barry said because the transmitter must match the receiver.
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