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Author:  Dr Fred [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  how long would you run a CD tray if no-one brought disks to your show.

Simple question for those that run computer setups.

How many shows of no signer disks before you would stop bringing your cd player to the shows. Assuming that you have to pack up your setup at the end of each show.

Author:  Karen K [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: how long would you run a CD tray if no-one brought disks to your show.

I use MTU Hoster - no need to have a separate player.

Author:  Babs [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:49 am ]
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I put a 100+ That's because I keep my equipment at the bar, so I guess I'd just leave it there just in case I'd need it. Better than it being left in a box at home where I knew it would never get used. :D

Author:  Lonman [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:05 am ]
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As long as I have it in my rack it would go to every show. Why not?

Author:  jamkaraoke [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:57 am ]
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That's the real deal..... If you leave your equipment at the bar ...NO PROBLEM
If you cdg player is in the rack with all your other equipment ....AGAIN no PROBLEM

When I was bringing the player --It was not in a rack, had to be carried seperately and hooked up every show. NOT A REAL BIG DEAL but when I saw it wasn't getting used. It seemed the correct thing to pull it out of the truck and store it.

It's murphy's law you know --As soon as a KJ does not have a player a singer will walk in with a cdg LOL

Author:  Moonrider [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:00 am ]
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I don't use a seperate player. They play from my laptop drive just fine. :roll:

Author:  jamkaraoke [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:26 am ]
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Moonrider @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 pm wrote:
I don't use a seperate player. They play from my laptop drive just fine. :roll:

I've heard that the laptop drives won't hold up to continued use?

Author:  Michaelangelo1 [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:43 am ]
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Moonrider @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 pm wrote:
I don't use a seperate player. They play from my laptop drive just fine. :roll:


I do the same thing. It works fine from my laptop. Will it hold up to continued use? Well what do you consider continued use? Two tracks a month? It is a dedicated Karaoke laptop, and the drive never gets used otherwise, so I am not concerned.

By the way, I use Siglos myself.

Author:  Moonrider [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:54 am ]
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jamkaraoke @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:26 pm wrote:
Moonrider @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 pm wrote:
I don't use a seperate player. They play from my laptop drive just fine. :roll:

I've heard that the laptop drives won't hold up to continued use?


Who said anything about continued use? If there's a singer with CDGs that wants to use them, with my average rotation that's two, maybe three songs (if it's slow) they'll get to sing. Call it 10 to 15 minutes of intermittent use that night for that singer. The most I've had is three singers in one night with personal CDGs. Call it 45 minutes of use for that night. I have 2 shows a week I do. IF I assume I get that many singers every night, that means my drive gets used 1.5 hours a week, or 78 hours a year.

The lowest MTBF rating I've seen for OEM dvd-roms for laptops is 125,000 hours of use. Under real-life conditions, let's say we only get one-tenth of that rating - about 12,500 hours. That means at 1.5 hours a week usage my drive will fail in about 160 years.

I'm not too worried about a drive failure . . . :reddevil:

Author:  Babs [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:18 am ]
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Moonrider @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:54 am wrote:
jamkaraoke @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:26 pm wrote:
Moonrider @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 pm wrote:
I don't use a seperate player. They play from my laptop drive just fine. :roll:

I've heard that the laptop drives won't hold up to continued use?


Who said anything about continued use? If there's a singer with CDGs that wants to use them, with my average rotation that's two, maybe three songs (if it's slow) they'll get to sing. Call it 10 to 15 minutes of intermittent use that night for that singer. The most I've had is three singers in one night with personal CDGs. Call it 45 minutes of use for that night. I have 2 shows a week I do. IF I assume I get that many singers every night, that means my drive gets used 1.5 hours a week, or 78 hours a year.

The lowest MTBF rating I've seen for OEM dvd-roms for laptops is 125,000 hours of use. Under real-life conditions, let's say we only get one-tenth of that rating - about 12,500 hours. That means at 1.5 hours a week usage my drive will fail in about 160 years.

I'm not too worried about a drive failure . . . :reddevil:


I've worried about my CDG player dying out on me because I've been using it about 6 yrs and it was vintage when I bought it. But like moonrider points out it really doesn't get that much use. At the most I've had 5 people with CDGs in a night. Sometimes I don't use it all.

Author:  tovmod [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 am ]
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As I had pointed out at least once in one of these "CDG disc" threads is that I have an 2 external CD rom drives. I can easily use one of them if I prefer to or if my lappy drive died. Actually, I do prefer the external drive because I can put it "anywhere" which makes it more accessible to me compared to where the lappy's drive is usually positioned. Also, the external drive is sturdier and responds more quickly than the lappy.

Also, having the external drive allows me to queue up two tracks at the same time, if I so desire!

Author:  mckyj57 [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:33 am ]
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jamkaraoke @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:26 pm wrote:
Moonrider @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 pm wrote:
I don't use a seperate player. They play from my laptop drive just fine. :roll:

I've heard that the laptop drives won't hold up to continued use?

From who? Some guy named Joe who doesn't know anything?

And if it doesn't hold up, so what? If you are using the drive that much so it goes byebye, get an external USB one for $50.00.

Author:  Lonman [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:08 am ]
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jamkaraoke @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:57 am wrote:
That's the real deal..... If you leave your equipment at the bar ...NO PROBLEM
If you cdg player is in the rack with all your other equipment ....AGAIN no PROBLEM
When I was bringing the player --It was not in a rack, had to be carried seperately and hooked up every show. NOT A REAL BIG DEAL but when I saw it wasn't getting used. It seemed the correct thing to pull it out of the truck and store it.
Then you get a new rack. Then put it in the rack & leave it - no problem?
:twisted:

Author:  Lonman [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:09 am ]
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jamkaraoke @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:26 am wrote:
Moonrider @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 pm wrote:
I don't use a seperate player. They play from my laptop drive just fine. :roll:

I've heard that the laptop drives won't hold up to continued use?

If you get them seriously as few times as you state, the laptop drive would be more than adequate.

Author:  BigJer [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:06 pm ]
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Untill cdgs become totally obsolete is my answer... Whether that's 100+ shows from now or not I can't say.

Author:  SwingcatKurt [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:25 pm ]
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Just keep installed as a permanent part of my rig----use it for playing filler music between karaoke songs. Just que it up and fade it in and out. Get my moneys worth out of it.

Author:  JoeChartreuse [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:41 pm ]
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mckyj57 @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:33 pm wrote:
jamkaraoke @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:26 pm wrote:
Moonrider @ Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 pm wrote:
I don't use a seperate player. They play from my laptop drive just fine. :roll:

I've heard that the laptop drives won't hold up to continued use?

From who? Some guy named Joe who doesn't know anything?

And if it doesn't hold up, so what? If you are using the drive that much so it goes byebye, get an external USB one for $50.00.


Mick, you really oughta start reading threads and maybe learning something....anything.

The EE, The ET, and being in the business since cassettes and lyric sheets gives me a little something. ... Your electronics degrees? Also, if I recall, you aren't a host, but hire others with more experience...that about right?


Anyway, if you are only playing a disc or two every once in a while- no biggie. If you expect heavy use, the laptop isn't made for it.

If one doesn't trust my judgement on the matter, feel free to ask, say, Lonman- a respected poster, if I am not....

Author:  johnreynolds [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:20 am ]
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I would run them FOREVER or until cdgs, dvd music videos, and regular cds were no longer avaiable, and i wouldn't have to find a laziness or inconvenient UNtruth, or valid reason (tongue in cheek) or until no one in the entire world brought me a disc to play...which THEN i would presume KARAOKE ARMAGEDDON is finally approaching. :mrgreen: :angel: -just kidding!

Author:  Dr Fred [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:24 am ]
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Ok next question.

Your CD player has died, and you have gone 50-100 shows without a request to run a customer CD. You run most of your shows off of a hard drive. And your software does not allow you to easily run a cd of your computer directly.

Would you buy a replacement?

Author:  johnreynolds [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:31 am ]
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Dr Fred @ Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:24 am wrote:
Ok next question.

Your CD player has died, and you have gone 50-100 shows without a request to run a customer CD. You run most of your shows off of a hard drive. And your software does not allow you to easily run a cd of your computer directly.

Would you buy a replacement?


Short answer; no
Long answer: i have 3 more players in the closet unused. DVD/cdg players that are old but still work. After a 100 shows and no disc requests, NO i wouldn't buy a new one.

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