KARAOKE SCENE MAGAZINE ONLINE! - Vocal Pitch Processors and the Bad singer Public Forums Karaoke Discussions Karaoke Scene's Karaoke Forums Home | Contact Us | Site Map  

Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene

   
  * Login
  * Register

  * FAQ
  * Search

Custom Search

Social Networks


premium-member

Offsite Links


It is currently Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:09 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:33 pm 
I have been doing Kartaoke now a few months at a local bar. So I am inexperienced and have a lot to learn. I noticed pretty quickly that many people could use some help. Some need more help then maybe is possible. But of course Karaoke is mostly about having fun, however many of the singers who struggle could be helped with some auto-tune vocal pitch processing. But I don't know much about how this is done. (remember I am a newbie to all this, including sound systems.) I have a Mackie 808s amp. How is this best hooked up? What are the options for processors and costs here. I guess there are some more difficult issues, like how do you go about deciding if a singer needs "HELP". Anyone adress these issues. Thanks


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:59 pm 
Offline
Senior Poster
Senior Poster

Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2003 7:45 pm
Posts: 243
Been Liked: 0 time
I'm not to familiar with the 808S you have. I always just use the key changer on my triple tray player. As far as know when to "help" a singer with the kay changer, I always give them a chance first if I haven't heard them sing a particular song before and then wait until a small break in the music to ask them if they want me to start it over a little lower or higher depending on what their range sounds like.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:24 pm 
Offline
Super Extreme Poster
Super Extreme Poster
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm
Posts: 22978
Songs: 35
Images: 3
Location: Tacoma, WA
Been Liked: 2126 times
Correction processors do not work very good in live situations.

_________________
LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
Image


Top
 Profile Personal album Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 4:39 am 
Offline
Super Poster
Super Poster
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2002 2:08 pm
Posts: 604
Location: new jersey
Been Liked: 0 time
I will use the key changer sometimes, Other times I add echo to bad singers. Theres no miracle cure to correct a bad singer.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 11:40 pm 
Offline
Super Poster
Super Poster

Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:37 pm
Posts: 881
Location: Taos, NM
Been Liked: 0 time
I get great results with my Personal TC Electronics "Voice One" and also thier "Voice Prism" it runs about MSRP about $700.00 for the Voice one. and $1,500.00 for the Voice Prism. I'm sure it's much less in the Big discounter's stores or mail orders.. mine cost me a major fraction of that, Because we bought 5 units plus several products like it that were year end models such as effect units all from the same manufacturer in the same order to save shipping. We have had alot of problems with the "Antares" Auto-tune (ATR-1 ATR-3 & Pro Producer) products and sold all of them except the plug-ins for our recording pc's we still use just for comparasion. Not for tuning.

On the "Other Side of the coin" Kid Rock used it on "Only God Knows Why"
in the studio as an Effect. If you listen closely you can hear the intonator kicking in and releasing. That was an Antares ATR-1 Vocal Tuner. :shock:

EVERY CD released.. No matter what anyone tells you in the major industry has vocal tuning done to it before pressing whether the artist thinks they are perfect in pitch or not, because NOBODY is exactly dead on pitch perfect. If they think they are.. Have them walk on water for me in front of my eyes.

Send me the CD if they are. I definately want to hear and meet them. 8)

Hope this helps. 8)

_________________
Brian D.
(BHB)


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 7:39 am 
Offline
Super Extreme Poster
Super Extreme Poster
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm
Posts: 22978
Songs: 35
Images: 3
Location: Tacoma, WA
Been Liked: 2126 times
Which is really too bad. I'd rather hear a song sung & played with feeling with all the pitch possible mishaps rather than a computer enhanced finished perfect piece.
Joe Perry of Aerosmith does NOT always keep his guitar in tune for that reason, he said it's just rock n roll man!

_________________
LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
Image


Top
 Profile Personal album Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 4:09 pm 
Offline
Advanced Poster
Advanced Poster
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2001 5:32 am
Posts: 387
Location: Chicago 'burbs USA
Been Liked: 1 time
I've thought it would be difficult using one in the unpredictable karaoke environment. In the studio, sure; with a rehearsed live act, probably. I got a demo disc of TC Helicon's Voice Works processor and must say it's an amazing tool for harmony, thickening, correction and other effects. I agree that for many of the painfully off-key singers, changing the key on your player might help (but suggest and get consent from your singers beforehand). These units are also pretty pricey for the karaoke market IMO.

_________________
Sounds Great! Entertainment
Bartlett, Illinois


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 12:20 pm 
Offline
Super Poster
Super Poster

Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:37 pm
Posts: 881
Location: Taos, NM
Been Liked: 0 time
Marty,
Sometimes those that wannabe karaoke stars just one night may make it worth that $400.00 to $600.00 and the effects make it worth the price alone.

_________________
Brian D.
(BHB)


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 716 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Privacy Policy | Anti-Spam Policy | Acceptable Use Policy Copyright © Karaoke Scene Magazine
design & hosting by Cross Web Tech