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Hi Everyone,

I am currently remodeling our main basement room that will serve a dual purpose as our new home theater as well as our karaoke area. We currently run our discs off of our laptop which runs to our Yamaha MG82CX Mixer:

http://www.music123.com/Yamaha-8-INPUT- ... 9.Music123

For mics we are using SM58s and for speakers we had been using our KEF surround system coupled with our Onkyo receiver, which has worked fine up to this point in the upstairs room but, as we realize that is not the best setup going forward for multiple reasons, we want to move to Powered Speakers. The room is about 18 x 14 and we were considering a couple of Behringers just due to price:

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... 00735#used

To keep everything clean I would like to do some wall plates up by the theater screen so we can attach the speakers to the wall plates, which would then run to the back of the room where the mixer would then plug-in to another dual wall plate at that location. My question is what is the best way to do that and which plates and what cabling should we use. I was looking at the plates on Monoprice:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subde ... p_id=10425

But wasn't sure if I should do balanced XLR or 1/4 inch and was also a little unclear on what cabling to use in the wall and how to make the connections on the back of the plates (soldered?).

Any advice you can provide would be much appreciated. Thanks much.

I would go with a balanced XLR connection. Installation grade cable is pricy. If you only need to run 2 channels, here is some good quality cable for installs.
http://store.haveinc.com/c-122-2-channel.aspx

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Thanks lonman. Much appreciated.

Has anyone actually heard the Behringer's in question? I know Behringer usually doesn't get much love on these boards, but how do the Eurolive Powered speakers actually sound for the price?

Also, would it be better to do two 12s or two 10s considering the size of the room?

2 10's with a sub would be the best in my opinion. the 10's are great for the mid range with the sub carrying the lower frequency range. 12's are fine to, but a bit of an overkill in my opinion.

I've bought the XLR plates and the construction is just as good as the neutrik plates I got elsewhere for more money. I have no yet soldered the wires to them because it really does look like a bit of a bear to do.

I may drill small holes in the connection tabs to fish the cable through before soldering or maybe even get mini screws and try to convert them into screwed connectors.

If I even get round to this I'll let you know... using them for a floor box on a portable stage.

- Jonn

Solder is good.
Practice first on odd bits before you do it for real.
Make sure whatever you solder is clean. Not oxidised in any way.
Use a chisel tip not a point. (A point won't get hot enough)

Heat up Iron.
Once hot, clean the tip of the Iron with a slightly damp rag.
If the tip does not look really clean the tip is no use and can not be used.
Tin the tip of the Iron. (Melt a little solder on the tip)
Hold the Iron tip against a bare wire end.
Leave it a few seconds then put the solder against the wire (not the tip)
If it does not melt into the wire, heat it a bit longer.
It will all depend on the wattage of the Iron as to how long it takes.
Once the solder has melted into the wire it is tinned and ready.
Do the same to one of the XLR contacts.
Once solder has melted on it it is ready.
Blue tack we call it in the UK is good for holding things.
Place wire against contact.
Put Iron tip to back of contact and let the wire solder melt into the contact solder.
Perfect joint that will never let you down.
Repeat twice more.