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coachrmit
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:18 pm |
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I have alot of Karaoke Files in Flac format and need a player for them....anyone got any suggestions???....Thx in advance
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twansenne
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:33 pm |
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Jian
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:08 pm |
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Why would you rip it to flac when you don't have a player to play them?
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Lonman
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:24 am |
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Jian @ Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:08 pm wrote: Why would you rip it to flac when you don't have a player to play them?
Or did he?
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Alex
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:18 am |
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Lonman @ Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:24 am wrote: Jian @ Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:08 pm wrote: Why would you rip it to flac when you don't have a player to play them? Or did he? Exactly my thought... I was about to write that yesterday, but didn't want to be the one pointing the finger first.
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eben
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:00 pm |
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Hmm, I thought FLAC was a codec not a file format. Did I miss something here?
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coachrmit
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:34 pm |
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Thank you twansenne for your information, it is greatly appreciated. As for the other comments that were made on this thread afterwards, you were sure quick to assume that I acquired this material illegally. They were given to me by a client who asked me to play them, I had never encountered Karaoke files in such a format and had no idea how to play them, since I always use CD+G discs. It is nice to know that with my first post on this board, I was met with more skepticism than help. Have a nice day !!!
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ggardein
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:36 pm |
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I'm sorry people on here gave you so much Flac..........
I know, you all thought of it, but thought it would be too corny to say it.... I have no shame......
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eben
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:42 pm |
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coachrmit @ Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:34 pm wrote: Thank you twansenne for your information, it is greatly appreciated. As for the other comments that were made on this thread afterwards, you were sure quick to assume that I acquired this material illegally. They were given to me by a client who asked me to play them, I had never encountered Karaoke files in such a format and had no idea how to play them, since I always use CD+G discs. It is nice to know that with my first post on this board, I was met with more skepticism than help. Have a nice day !!!
First of all, your attitude here is not warranted. Personally, I wanted to ask about the codec versus file format. You just lumped all the discussion after the first as being a accusative tone. If you are new to a place, it pays to be nice and ask the questions politely and explain your situation. If you still have this attitude of flipping off people so easily, no one will ever want to help you in this forum.
As for the suspicion, I can see why they are suspicious. You said "I have " alot of Karaoke Files in Flac format". If your client is asking to play a few songs, why would you state that you have a lot of songs? That's why people got suspicious. If you said a few songs, people may have helped you without the attitude (I know some people can display attitude when helping others but that's why we love them sometimes).
The question you should be answering, I would as a professional, is not whether it's your act is in question but your client's is. If he hands you a disk drive full of files, I would think twice about accepting those and trying to play it for your client. Just a thought.
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Lonman
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:01 am |
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coachrmit @ Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:34 pm wrote: Thank you twansenne for your information, it is greatly appreciated. As for the other comments that were made on this thread afterwards, you were sure quick to assume that I acquired this material illegally. They were given to me by a client who asked me to play them, I had never encountered Karaoke files in such a format and had no idea how to play them, since I always use CD+G discs. It is nice to know that with my first post on this board, I was met with more skepticism than help. Have a nice day !!!
Well, sorry you took it that way. Mine was actually more of a TIC comment - hence the devil advocate icon, however, with the rampant use of new computer users asking how to play files they have is a good bet, they didn't actually buy the discs to rip said files so it's always going to stand out as a question - some users didin't realize their hard drives were actually illegal & comments like that made them question their own stuff. If you are legit, more power to ya!
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Lonman
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:03 am |
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eben @ Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:42 pm wrote: coachrmit @ Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:34 pm wrote: As for the suspicion, I can see why they are suspicious. You said "I have "alot of Karaoke Files in Flac format". If your client is asking to play a few songs, why would you state that you have a lot of songs? That's why people got suspicious. If you said a few songs, people may have helped you without the attitude (I know some people can display attitude when helping others but that's why we love them sometimes).
Exactly! Maybe if he would have explained a little more clearly in the OP, one might not have jumped to a suspicion!
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Lone Wolf
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:31 am |
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Not that I want to get jumped on but
If you play someone's files that are not on a original CD is that legal?
OP states that a client gave them to him to play, just where did the client get them?
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TopherM
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:23 am |
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Yup....if you want to use them legally in a karaoke show, simply burn the original CDG into MP3+G format, and erase the FLAC files.
If you DO NOT have the original CDGs, then you can't legally use the files anyway in a commercial karaoke show.
Logic states that you DO NOT have the original CDGs. That's piracy.
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Bazza
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:42 am |
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coachrmit @ Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:34 pm wrote: They were given to me by a client who asked me to play them
I would be curious to know where these FLAC Karaoke files came from in the first place? In all my travels I have never seen one.
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Manobeer
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:33 am |
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Lone Wolf @ Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:31 am wrote: Not that I want to get jumped on but
If you play someone's files that are not on a original CD is that legal?
OP states that a client gave them to him to play, just where did the client get them? No PC based files are 100% legal to use in a show, even if audited. Those audits just make it ok to use SCs trademark, they do not include permission from the ARTIST/COPYRIGHT HOLDER to use the song in a non CDG based format. TopherM @ Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:23 am wrote: Yup....if you want to use them legally in a karaoke show, simply burn the original CDG into MP3+G format, and erase the FLAC files.
If you DO NOT have the original CDGs, then you can't legally use the files anyway in a commercial karaoke show.
If he has the original CDG, I dont see a difference between FLAC or MP3G files.
And even if we do own the CDGs, it is still not 100% legal.
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eben
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:27 pm |
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Bazza @ Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:42 am wrote: coachrmit @ Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:34 pm wrote: They were given to me by a client who asked me to play them I would be curious to know where these FLAC Karaoke files came from in the first place? In all my travels I have never seen one.
FLAC, is an audio codec not a file format. For example, MP3 can be encoded with various codec, including FLAC. I have never heard of any file format called FLAC, that's why I was questioning this earlier.
Typically, codec is a plug in or program you use it within the OS, not something that is portable like a file format. I would love to find out more about this flac thing he's talking about.
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Manobeer
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:41 pm |
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eben @ Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:27 pm wrote: Bazza @ Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:42 am wrote: coachrmit @ Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:34 pm wrote: They were given to me by a client who asked me to play them I would be curious to know where these FLAC Karaoke files came from in the first place? In all my travels I have never seen one. FLAC, is an audio codec not a file format. For example, MP3 can be encoded with various codec, including FLAC. I have never heard of any file format called FLAC, that's why I was questioning this earlier.
Way I see it.
The flac FORMAT files are music files that have been encoded with the flac codec.
I do not believe you can have a flac mp3 file, I ripped all my beatles to .flac files
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Lone Wolf
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:21 pm |
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tbreen
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:10 am |
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coachrmit @ Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:18 pm wrote: I have alot of Karaoke Files in Flac format and need a player for them....anyone got any suggestions???....Thx in advance
Compuhost plays FLAC+G files along with a multitude of other audio+g formats.
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tbreen
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:15 am |
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eben @ Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:27 pm wrote: Bazza @ Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:42 am wrote: coachrmit @ Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:34 pm wrote: They were given to me by a client who asked me to play them I would be curious to know where these FLAC Karaoke files came from in the first place? In all my travels I have never seen one. FLAC, is an audio codec not a file format. For example, MP3 can be encoded with various codec, including FLAC. I have never heard of any file format called FLAC, that's why I was questioning this earlier. Typically, codec is a plug in or program you use it within the OS, not something that is portable like a file format. I would love to find out more about this flac thing he's talking about.
Sorry Eben, gotta disagree.
Here is a description of the FLAC format directly from the FLAC development page on sourceforge ( http://flac.sourceforge.net).
"FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec, an audio format similar to MP3, but lossless, meaning that audio is compressed in FLAC without any loss in quality. This is similar to how Zip works, except with FLAC you will get much better compression because it is designed specifically for audio, and you can play back compressed FLAC files in your favorite player (or your car or home stereo, see supported devices) just like you would an MP3 file."
The term CODEC is an acronym for "compression-decompression" which by definition would define all formats to be the same, since the "compression-decompression" method is mostly what differs among them (wav=no compression, mp3=mp3 style compression etc.). Before anyone jumps in to say other differences exist, I'm aware, but the underlying differences between formats has to do with how they compress the data, while still maintaining the best possible audio quality,
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