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| Author: | goldthroat [ Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
 The church I go to is planning a benefit to raise money to re do their kitchen. They want to do a show ( about 1 hour) using my Karaoke rig and backing tracks. Probably be 8 to 10 singers all from the church choirs, etc. Do we have to have a license or pay royalties on the songs we perform?
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| Author: | letitrip [ Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
Technically, yes. Now the question is would BMI or ASCAP bother chasing down a one time gig that was performed for charity, my guess is no. |
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| Author: | goldthroat [ Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
Just copied this from ASCAP's website: If our organization is nonprofit, are we required to obtain an ASCAP license? The non-profit status of an organization that promotes or presents concerts does not automatically exempt it from the license requirement. While the United States Copyright Law provides a limited exemption for certain performances by non-profit organizations, that exemption is very narrow. Specifically, Section 110(4) of the Copyright law exempts public performances of copyrighted musical compositions from liability if all three of the following conditions are met: 1) there is no purpose of direct or indirect commercial advantage; and 2) there is no payment for the performance to the performers, promoters or organizers; and 3) there is no direct or indirect admission charge or, alternatively, if there is an admission charge, the net proceeds are used exclusively for educational, religious or charitable purposes. In cases where there is an admission charge, however, under the statute copyright owners may nevertheless serve a notice of objection to the performance, which negates the exemption. Because application of any statutory exemption always depends on the particular facts of the musical performance, you should contact your attorney or ASCAP to find out whether your particular performances qualify for exemption. SERIOUS CONCERT 1/5/05 10:17 AM Page 15 |
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| Author: | jerry12x [ Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
Like Tony said. Just do it. Manu's wont bother you. That would be bad press. A Church. |
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| Author: | mckyj57 [ Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
Lots of churches that regularly do music have made arrangements with ASCAP/BMI. I think it is usually no charge, as it is for schools and other true non-profits. |
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| Author: | rsstoner [ Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
We have karaoke by request, make $0 money from it, never charge an entrance fee, most often we barely break even on a night when we have karaoke, ascap, bmi and sensa said "Doesn't matter, you can seat 50 people you must pay $XXX dollars a month or we will fine you............................. maybe they're not going after you because you're doing it for God, but they sure as hell get there approx $2000.00 a year between the three of em combined........ of course, one is extremely mad at me currently, I'm holding their check until they provide us with a list of artist's and song's that they represent, figure why should we pay em if no one sings their songs................ been 2 months and they've yet to send us another "Bill" or return a phone call.......................... But I'm Sure they are working hard in the Best Interest of the Artist/Writer........................... Peace, S. |
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| Author: | BigJer [ Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
If you held it as a private party only open to church members I don't think anyone would complain to BMI or ASCAP, but maybe that won't suit your needs? |
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| Author: | Avg Joe [ Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
Yep, just do it. I trust God will be on your side. |
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| Author: | admaero [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
Yes, you do have to pay royalties...to God. After all, none of the songs could have been created if God hadn't created us. We should be thankful for His gift of creativity, and be sure to mail your love gift of thanks to: Church of the Divine Offering 38400 W Bopp Road Tucson, AZ 85711 God, of course, accepts, cash, checks, stock certificates, jewelry, rare coins, and gold and silver bullion, including teeth with gold fillings. Praise His Holy Name-muh! -denise |
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| Author: | jerry12x [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
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| Author: | ripman8 [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
Please. |
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| Author: | jerry12x [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do I need to pay royalties to do a benefit for a Church? |
ripman8 @ Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:29 am wrote: Please.
WHAT!!! After what you have posted. 
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