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| Author: | jerry12x [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | This can not be karaoke |
It often happens that while bumper music is playing a person with the mic. will sing along. If they sound ok I will let this run for a while. Often it gets audience participation as well. How do you feel about that? |
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| Author: | Kevin That 70s Guy [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
I'd let them sing through the song's chorus, or maybe a few lines, but you have to get the show back on track, especially when you have a lot of people waiting. I'd make a point to re-introduce the singer while the music fades out to make it a smooth transition. |
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| Author: | atxklown [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
the downside is that sometimes the bumper music was better than the song that the singer is going to do. Also during bumper music, because this happens to me, don't play a song that a singer will be singing on that rotation. The KJ played Muse's Starlight for bumper and I did a loud groan, he looked at my song slip laughed and apologized because he didn't realize it. I'd stick with some DJ instrumental music or songs that are karaoke cliches so it can dissuade people to choose that song. |
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| Author: | letitrip [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
jerry12x @ Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:14 pm wrote: It often happens that while bumper music is playing
a person with the mic. will sing along. If they sound ok I will let this run for a while. Often it gets audience participation as well. How do you feel about that? I don't have a problem letting them sing it for a bit, however, I don't let it go on for the whole song if I've got singers waiting. A lot of times I'll use the opportunity to try and get them to signup for a song. |
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| Author: | DannyG2006 [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
I don't play bumper music when I have singers anymore, Just if I have zero singers which would be rare but if I did and they started singing along, I'd pause the song and ask them if they'd rather sing the karaoke version of the song if I have it. |
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| Author: | ripman8 [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
I find that it keeps the energy level up. Sometimes people hear a transition song and decide they want to sing it. More power to them. I always keep the transition music level down between 2/3 and 1/2 of the actual karaoke music. |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
Nah, I always fade it out & into the song they chose. Don't have it happen too often however. |
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| Author: | Karen K [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
Ironically this happened to be me twice at my Friday night show this week - and my bumper music is extremely diverse. I set it up based on who is at the show. One guy gets up and sings along to an older country song; another gets up and sings along to "DJ's Got Us Falling In Love." I usually do as Lonman does, fade it out and get on with the singer's song. |
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| Author: | TroyVnd27 [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
It happens ALL too often for me. I usually turn the mike down after each singer, and then turn it up to avoid it. That isn't the reason why I turn down the mikes tho - I usually call up a singer and then formally introduce them once I got the karaoke song going - like "Ok ladies and gentlemen, he is going to do some Godsmack for all you headbangers out there, here's JOE!" You would not believe how many people talk on the mike during the introduction, so I never turn it on/up until I am ready to hear them sing. Whenever I forget to turn it down, I always seem to get people singing along on the mike to my filler music. I HATE THAT! |
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| Author: | TroyVnd27 [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
I forgot to mention the people that are done singing and interrupt me as I am trying to get them their round of applause. Group singers are THE WORSE. So yeah, the mikes go immediately down when they are done singing. Or, how many times do singers say into a live mike "Is this thing on?" |
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| Author: | Paradigm [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
to avoid just such situations i only use instrumental stuff. Eric Johnson, Steve Vaie, Joe Satriani, Vinnie Moore, etc. and it is only for the 10 or so seconds while intorducing and switching singers, and the occasional banter. |
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| Author: | karaoke koyote [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
I'm with Lonman, I fade it. The bumper music is there to "fill" the time between the end of the last song and the time the singer walks up to the microphone. Usually, this is short, but in a crowded bar it can take time for the singer to work their way through the crowd. One of the best way to try to not have "sing along" tunes on the playlist. Its not 100% but does work. For example, at my one show, which is a lot of younger types, I play a lot of "hip hop" music. Usher, Jason Derulo, and so forth. This keeps the crowd upbeat, and energy level high, but i rarely have someone try to sing to it. At my other bar I have a bunch of old to new hard rock/ classic tunes... like megadeth, metallica, etc. and again, rarely do I have anyone try to sing to it. Also, Make sure the volume level of your filler music is low in compared to your karaoke music. I also have mic cut ability from my board, and usually don't cut the mics on till I cue the track. This solves several issues besides the sing to filler... such as screaming into the mic so they can "say hi to their peeps" or "go Ravens!" or a bunch of other nonsense that can throw the show off track. |
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| Author: | jerry12x [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
I seem to differ somewhat from most of you. At my shows they can sing along to the original track rather than the karaoke track. I usually mention they can do that. It has helped some karaoke virgins. If anything it actually increases audience participation. One girl does it just to play vocal acrobatics. |
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| Author: | leopard lizard [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
Anarchist. |
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| Author: | jerry12x [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
Lizard |
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| Author: | ripman8 [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
ripman8 @ Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:15 pm wrote: I find that it keeps the energy level up. Sometimes people hear a transition song and decide they want to sing it. More power to them. I always keep the transition music level down between 2/3 and 1/2 of the actual karaoke music.
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| Author: | Karen K [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
jerry12x @ Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:10 am wrote: Lizard
still laughing..."Anarchist!" "Lizard!" Love it. Only on this board...or maybe not. |
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| Author: | Marble [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
I let them sing along until the bumper music give me a natural opportunity to fade it out... and then make a comment "now you've proved how tuneful you are, i think you should hand in some more songs". I have a group of three male 20 - 30year olds, who quite often get the urge to sing loudly to songs they shouldn't stereotypically like, eg, cotten eye joe, lion sleeps tonight, never gonna give you up... I usually let the sing them sing as long as possible (most my bumper music is only about 1min30secs before it fades into something else) as everyone in the venue seems to be amused by their burst of enthusasm and I get to roll my eyes. |
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| Author: | therealsmitty [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
'I don't play bumper music when I have singers anymore, Just if I have zero singers which would be rare but if I did and they started singing along, I'd pause the song and ask them if they'd rather sing the karaoke version of the song if I have it.' Hi, Danny. Long time... I handle that exactly as you do. BTW, Ashley says Hi. |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: This can not be karaoke |
karaoke koyote @ Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:53 am wrote: One of the best way to try to not have "sing along" tunes on the playlist. Its not 100% but does work.
I don't necessarily agree with this overall. I do have singers that hear something in while the next singer is walking up & ask what it is to be able to sing it. Often times people don't know the names of songs & when they hear it ask what/who it was and add it to their list. So I add everything I have from all genres, but agree with keeping just low enough, especially to be able to talk over & get the next singer up. |
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