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Wow! You don't have that song on SC format?
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Author:  simpmech [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:37 am ]
Post subject:  Wow! You don't have that song on SC format?
Most of our Library is chartbuster, but we do have quite a bit of SC tucked in there with them. But it never fails, ever once in a while I get a group of "professional" Karaoke singers that come in and make a stink about not having every song they would like to sing available on SC. They even ignore the books and just come up and take up as much time for them and away from the show as they need to discuss this. I've explained that while SC is a great version so are some of the Chartbusters etc. /sigh hard to deal sometimes
Thoughts?
Author:  srnitynow [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:05 am ]
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Me: "No, actually I don't have that particular song on Soundchoice, but I do have it on Chartbuster or DK, or whatever." Him (or her): "I know it's on Soundchoice, because so-in-so at the other place has it, and they don't even have books, you just have to go up and ask for the song". Me: "Well, then what are you doing here?" "We use books, slips, have a "limited" number of songs approx. 15,000 titles, NOT ALL SOUNDCHOICE, so if we don't have what you're looking for, and you don't want to look in the books, or fill out slips, I'm sorry, but you're probably better off going to the other show. But thanks for stopping by...

Srnitynow
Author:  simpmech [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Wow! You don't have that song on SC format?
srnitynow wrote:
Me: "No, actually I don't have that particular song on Soundchoice, but I do have it on Chartbuster or DK, or whatever." Him (or her): "I know it's on Soundchoice, because so-in-so at the other place has it, and they don't even have books, you just have to go up and ask for the song". Me: "Well, then what are you doing here?" "We use books, slips, have a "limited" number of songs approx. 15,000 titles, NOT ALL SOUNDCHOICE, so if we don't have what you're looking for, and you don't want to look in the books, or fill out slips, I'm sorry, but you're probably better off going to the other show. But thanks for stopping by...

Srnitynow



It's funny how you pretty much hit it right on the head, I got to hear that last night too. "so and so" has pretty much all of them on SC and that's the version I'm used too. lol
Author:  mrmarog [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Wow! You don't have that song on SC format?
srnitynow wrote:
Me: "No, actually I don't have that particular song on Soundchoice, but I do have it on Chartbuster or DK, or whatever." Him (or her): "I know it's on Soundchoice, because so-in-so at the other place has it, and they don't even have books, you just have to go up and ask for the song". Me: "Well, then what are you doing here?" "We use books, slips, have a "limited" number of songs approx. 15,000 titles, NOT ALL SOUNDCHOICE, so if we don't have what you're looking for, and you don't want to look in the books, or fill out slips, I'm sorry, but you're probably better off going to the other show. But thanks for stopping by...


I do the same thing and I get great delight in seeing their reaction, because I have plenty of singers, and 1 less pushy singer is a welcomed relief.
Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:41 am ]
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Thankfully, people around here aren't that spoiled.
Author:  Cueball [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:55 am ]
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Even tho I am not doing any shows at this present time, I have been asked if I have "xxxx song," and my response has always been the same... "If it isn't listed in my book, then I do not have it." I have received some "Brand Specific" requests, but I have NEVER gotten the, "Well Mr. KJ at this other place has it.".
Author:  Marble [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:03 am ]
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Last year a host came in and berated me for not having "Lying eyes" On SC. I laughed, because I thought he was joking... but no, every other show he goes to including his own has it.

I said the zoom version was just a popular quality wise, give it a try... He was happy by the end of the night, which is the important thing.

The main problem I come across in the Uk, is Sunfly addicts who refuse to accept any other brand may be just as good, fortunately their numbers are dwindling, as more and more shows expand their collections to contain other companies.
Author:  johnny reverb [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:12 am ]
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I prefer SC usually, but I wouldn't make a fuss about someone not having it. I sing quite a few different songs, so I never have a problem finding more than enough songs to sing....even with the smallest library. Sometimes, when I'm used to the SC version, I get tripped up by other versions, especially if the key is different, but I hang in there, even if I got to bring out my she-voice... :lol: .....it's all good. If SGB had been the only karaoke manu to ever hit the mainstream, I'd still be happier than a pig in sh!t...... :) .......man I wish I had karaoke when I was a lad.
Author:  DannyG2006 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:46 am ]
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I simply state that if it isn't in my kiosk then I don't have it. I will however look for it and just maybe it will be in there for next time. If it's a SC song then you have to wait three weeks for it to appear in my collection as I now get customs at clark music's site.
Author:  chrisavis [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:52 am ]
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I am a karaoke snob. I like the version I like. I will try other versions if I really want to sing a song, but for the most part I want what I am used to. of course I prefer SC or most other brands but there are a few versions of songs that I prefer PI, CB, LG, or whatever for.

Cue - I have a LOT of songs that aren't in my books because I buy music regularly and I only update books every 6 months are when they get too gunked up. I even announce that if it is not in my book, feel free to ask about it anyway because I may be able to buy it on the spot if it is available.

-Chris
Author:  simpmech [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:50 pm ]
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chrisavis wrote:
I am a karaoke snob. I like the version I like. I will try other versions if I really want to sing a song, but for the most part I want what I am used to.
-Chris



It was nice to meet you last night Chris :wink:
Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:59 pm ]
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AS I buy more songs, even if they aren't in my physical book, I add them, immediately to my book file, so I can always find out quickly if I have something someone wants to sing.

As for being a brand specific singer, I feel that if you are a good enough singer you can make most versions sound good. If the words are wrong, as long as you know them you can fix the wrong spots while singing them. Also, if you are halfway decent singer, and the song is in the wrong key, you will be able to tell the host how many steps to raise or lower it to your liking.
Author:  michaeldiapers [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:25 pm ]
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A "professional" singer should be flexible enough to adapt to may different variations of the same song. These people just sound like snobs.
Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:40 pm ]
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michaeldiapers wrote:
A "professional" singer should be flexible enough to adapt to may different variations of the same song. These people just sound like snobs.

Even a decent amateur should be able to do that.
Author:  johnny reverb [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:05 pm ]
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Some times it's not so easy if you sing two or three thousand different songs.......you need all the help and accuracy a karaoke cut can provide..... :) actually, if your preformance doesn't go as good as you'd like it to go......you're usually the only one who notices it... :)
Author:  BruceFan4Life [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wow! You don't have that song on SC format?
If someone is used to singing a song in a certain way, based on the karaoke version that they have at their house, any variation can throw that person off when trying to sing that song from a different version. I don't think that is too much to ask to have the KJ provide that version or provide a way to play the singer's own disc.

Just the other day, someone here was looking for a particular version of "CANDLE IN THE WIND". Both versions are very similar but if you are expectong one and end up getting the other, you will most likely trip over the parts that are different. It seems that many KJs don't give a rat's a$$ if the singer has a positive xperience at karaoke. All they seem to care about us getting paid. They think that every singer should just be satisfied with whatever version they have purchased; even if it's crap.....because it's just karaoke and you should be able to just wing it on the fly without worrying about doing a good hjob or not. The more flubbs the better. They don't want those pesky divas, who might actually practice at home, coming to THEIR shows. Many of them want to be the only good singer at their show because they ALWAYS get to sing along with the version that they are used to.

It's THEIR show and you are limited to what they are willing to provide. Leave your personal discs at home.
Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wow! You don't have that song on SC format?
BruceFan4Life wrote:
If someone is used to singing a song in a certain way, based on the karaoke version that they have at their house, any variation can throw that person off when trying to sing that song from a different version. I don't think that is too much to ask to have the KJ provide that version or provide a way to play the singer's own disc.

Just the other day, someone here was looking for a particular version of "CANDLE IN THE WIND". Both versions are very similar but if you are expectong one and end up getting the other, you will most likely trip over the parts that are different. It seems that many KJs don't give a rat's a$$ if the singer has a positive xperience at karaoke. All they seem to care about us getting paid. They think that every singer should just be satisfied with whatever version they have purchased; even if it's crap.....because it's just karaoke and you should be able to just wing it on the fly without worrying about doing a good hjob or not. The more flubbs the better. They don't want those pesky divas, who might actually practice at home, coming to THEIR shows. Many of them want to be the only good singer at their show because they ALWAYS get to sing along with the version that they are used to.

It's THEIR show and you are limited to what they are willing to provide. Leave your personal discs at home.

I don't think that is quite true. I won't by any more SC, not for the reasons you just stated, but because I don't like their practices. I will gladly play anyone's personal discs, unless they are burns, no matter what brand they are. But for now, I will not buy any more SC, so if there are SC singers at my shows, (which hasn't been a problem), they are out of luck, but I WOULD explain my objection to buying SC.
Author:  BruceFan4Life [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:52 pm ]
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fair enough.

Since I wouldn't be able to sing any of my home made tracks at your show, since they are all on burned discs, I probably wouldn't go to your shows anyway. Nothing personal. I just like to sing what I like to sing. I do find it a little funny that you'd probably let me sing "AT A MEDIUM PACE" by Adam Sandler or "CLOSER" by Nine Inch Nails at your show but you wouldn't let me sing a song that I made myself because it is on a CDR disc.

It's your show and your rules. I get it.

My homemade tracks are every bit as legal as anything produced by All Hits, Sweet Georgia Brown and a myriad of other karaoke companies. The only difference between the two are that those companies had their discs pressed instead of burned and they had their labels professionally done. Those companies sold their discs to many people who assumed that they were buying a legally produced product. My tracks aren't sold to anyone so no money has been made on the backs of the musicians who created the songs. I buy my backing tracks from Karaoke version, I-tunes and amazon and I'm pretty sure that those companies pay the owners of the material their fair share.
Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:56 pm ]
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BruceFan4Life wrote:
fair enough.

Since I wouldn't be able to sing any of my home made tracks at your show, since they are all on burned discs, I probably wouldn't go to your shows anyway. Nothing personal. I just like to sing what I like to sing. I do find it a little funny that you'd probably let me sing "AT A MEDIUM PACE" by Adam Sandler or "CLOSER" by Nine Inch Nails at your show but you wouldn't let me sing a song that I made myself because it is on a CDR disc.

It's your show and your rules. I get it.

There is nothing illegal about "At A Medium Pace" or "Closer". BUT there could be legal issues if I play your burned disc. That is the difference. NOW, if all publisher and mfr BS were to cease, then your burned discs would be welcome additions to my show.
Author:  BruceFan4Life [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:07 pm ]
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My home made tracks are just as legal as the All Hits versions and SGB versions of Closer. At least I paid for the music I used to make them.
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