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| Author: | simpmech [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Song Book Binders |
Trying to find a 3 ring binder, one that doesnt come apart at the D rings! $$ isnt an option at this point. ugh I've paid the money for the best heavy duty that staples offers, still come apart |
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| Author: | RLC [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
Lightly sand the tips of the rings and then apply a drop of solder. |
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| Author: | kjflorida [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
or do as we do and use electrical tape so that you can add pages later |
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| Author: | JoeChartreuse [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
Even better, ONE layer of scotch invisible tape. The rings won't open- it WILL hold, the pages slide over it more easily, and yet easily peels away with a knife to add more pages. |
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| Author: | mrmarog [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
I'm with RLC. If you want a GUARANTEED way to prevent the pages from falling out, solder will do it best. |
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| Author: | johnreynolds [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
mrmarog wrote: I'm with RLC. If you want a GUARANTEED way to prevent the pages from falling out, solder will do it best. Soldering good (but a pain when you need to add pages!) Scotch tape (bad). WILL catch on pages (sorry Joe). been there done that. super glue better. BETTER SOLUTION but not cheap- Spring Post Binders by Itoya DON'T/CAN'T come apart! BEST ECONOMIC SOLUTION- binders from costco at $4 each instead of avery binders at Staples for $15 each- same binder and with clear front insert. |
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| Author: | leopard lizard [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
The solder thing is something I've always wanted to try as you can use the iron to heat the bond to get the rings apart if you want to add more pages. Tape didn't work for me as the pages did catch and it would eventually lose hold. At the moment I'm doing the superglue thing but I stick in some empty page protectors for adding songs later. The super glued rings CAN be pulled apart with enough force if you need to keep adding later. If you don't like the look of empty pages in the books, you can stick in fillers like photos, or news or ads for upcoming shows and then just take them out as you need them. Ace was advertising a notebook that was held together screws that wouldn't come apart yet could be opened easily when necessary. Never got a chance to try them. |
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| Author: | ripman8 [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
I hate books. Love my kiosk. Still bring the books though, just don't get used. I always bought mine at Wal Mart. They were cheap. The outer cover separating from the rest of the book was always my first problem from use/wear/tear. |
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| Author: | Bazza [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
johnreynolds wrote: BETTER SOLUTION but not cheap- Spring Post Binders by Itoya DON'T/CAN'T come apart! BEST ECONOMIC SOLUTION- binders from costco at $4 each instead of avery binders at Staples for $15 each- same binder and with clear front insert. MY OPTION - Comb binding machine. $99. Paid for itself in less than a year.  
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| Author: | simpmech [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
Liking the suggestions so far, keep them coming & thank you! |
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| Author: | MrBoo [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
Do they have plastic inserts for Combing binders? The best of both words. My biggest fear with this option is having the paper exposed all the time. At least inserts can be wiped off or pages replaced easily. Plus, these things could be folded into itself leaving bare paper on a beer soaked table. |
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| Author: | ed g [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
I now bind all my books and print 1 to 10 page handouts for new additions. When I used 3 ring binders I had good luck by sliding heat shrink tubing over the rings.Much less tearing. |
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| Author: | johnny reverb [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
already mentioned, fagetaboutit edit |
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| Author: | Bazza [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
MrBoo wrote: Do they have plastic inserts for Combing binders? The best of both words. My biggest fear with this option is having the paper exposed all the time. At least inserts can be wiped off or pages replaced easily. Plus, these things could be folded into itself leaving bare paper on a beer soaked table. I use a plastic cover, front and back. What you described does happen occasionally, and it only takes one Strawberry Margarita accident to ruin a book, but that would ruin ANY book. I bind up eight or ten and by the time I am ready for re-prints I've usually only lost one...maybe two. I went to this method just so I DIDN'T have to stuff those d@mn page protectors! |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
How do you update books? Would be my only question. I am updating books almost weekly with new pages and don't want to have a new songs book floating around on top of the regular books. I think the material needed to create, would eventually overtake the 'savings' of having to reprint a new section each week. |
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| Author: | Bazza [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
Lonman wrote: How do you update books? Would be my only question. I am updating books almost weekly with new pages and don't want to have a new songs book floating around on top of the regular books. I think the material needed to create, would eventually overtake the 'savings' of having to reprint a new section each week. It's very easy to drop the book in the machine, open the comb and add/remove pages. They are not bound for life. |
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| Author: | KaraokeIan [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
simpmech wrote: Liking the suggestions so far, keep them coming & thank you! One word: SongBooksLive.com ...haven't lost a book yet and the pages never stick 
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| Author: | chrisavis [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
I don't have the time to do weekly updates on books. I certainly would if I could. I update books about every 6 months, or when I have had a massive update, or when they get trashed. Otherwise I am listed on SongBooksLive.com for immediate updates. -Chris |
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| Author: | chrisavis [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
Just stumbled on this site for comb binding machines and supplies - http://www.bindingstuff.net/combbinding.html -Chris |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Song Book Binders |
Bazza wrote: Lonman wrote: How do you update books? Would be my only question. I am updating books almost weekly with new pages and don't want to have a new songs book floating around on top of the regular books. I think the material needed to create, would eventually overtake the 'savings' of having to reprint a new section each week. It's very easy to drop the book in the machine, open the comb and add/remove pages. They are not bound for life. So I would have to take the books home to update them (they stay at the club)? Normally I just print my pages at home and add them to the books at the club before my show - usually once a week - sometimes more often if I get something unexpectedly. Update & hand out. Like the concept, will have to look into it further. Pulling them apart once a week to update and rebuild seems like more hassle in my case. |
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